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Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 323	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:05:11 - [1] - Quote I'm not one to try and draw too much attention to myself or my exploits, so I'll be brief. Yesterday, after much deliberation (and no small amount of trepidation), I decided upon the formation of Liberty Vanguard, a Federation-aligned paramilitary organization operating in a defense and security capacity toward Federation space, interests and assets. At this time, we do not have any formal plans for involvement in any military campaigns or statements of intent, what we do have is a desire to understand and exemplify the ideals that founded the Federation and to respond, where necessary and able, to any threats (domestic and foreign) to those ideals. We are not aligned to any particular political party, though the founder and CEO most closely identifies as a pro-military Dove. We are not aligned to any particular corporation or interest group. We are not mercenaries and our services are not for hire outside of the Federation. Our members will be held to a high standard of conduct and integrity. More information will be forthcoming if necessary or requested. Thank you for your time. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Deitra Vess Scope Works Overload Everything 295	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:14:21 - [2] - Quote Good luck with this endeveor, I wish you the best...
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 324	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:19:19 - [3] - Quote ADDENDUM: Liberty Vanguard will, when able and requested to do so, assist our allies in the Republic according to their own standards and requests; we have no interest in forcing ourselves into their affairs where unwelcome. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 602	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:22:32 - [4] - Quote From what I've seen of your spirit so far, your service to the Federated Union will be a credit to the ideals all Galltente hold dear. I'm happy to offer my personal support, should you find yourself seeking advice or friendship of a comrade in arms. Furthermore, in my capacity as a diplomatic representative of the Villore Accords alliance I'd like to formally establish standings and cooperation between our organizations. Federal Defense Union aligned entities have a long history of friendly cooperation between pilots with a wide diversity of goals and aspirations, and I have no doubt you and yours will be welcome.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 776	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:40:51 - [5] - Quote I can never tell whether it is better to have a hated enemy that you wish to fight, or an honorable enemy that you must fight. A question for the philosophers.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1157	Posted - 2015.04.15 22:02:36 - [6] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: I can never tell whether it is better to have a hated enemy that you wish to fight, or an honorable enemy that you must fight. A question for the philosophers. A frenemy you can slap around then go have drinks with later. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 778	Posted - 2015.04.15 22:45:54 - [7] - Quote If only there were such a thing as friendly competition between capsuleers...
Evi Polevhia Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 877	Posted - 2015.04.15 22:59:01 - [8] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: If only there were such a thing as friendly competition between capsuleers... I, sirr, Challenge you to a duel of how many Republic scum we can kill in a week! Friendly competition beginning to end.
James Syagrius Reclamation Technologies 969	Posted - 2015.04.16 00:01:05 - [9] - Quote I wish you much success in you new endeavor. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Markus Error Her Majesty's Crown Corporation 15	Posted - 2015.04.16 00:37:29 - [10] - Quote Good luck to Liberty Vanguard. Pilot Shutaq - I find the honourable enemy the preferred one, personally. A straight-up fight is often preferable to fighting backstabbing scum. One good quality of many Amarr: many are most certainly worthy and honorable opponents. Pator IV - Moon 6 - School of Hard Knocks Prof. Markus 'Error' Sierra, Cynicism Deptartment
Arkon Sarain Kor-Azor Roving Tribunal 22	Posted - 2015.04.16 02:50:40 - [11] - Quote Master Antolliere, In our brief conversations though we have often disagreed there has always been a tone of mutual respect I feel, and even surprisingly to us much common ground. I am certain that under your auspices this organisation will behave with your selfsame decorum, civility, and intelligence. I wish you blessings and good luck. In faith, The Honourable Dr. Arkon Sarain Chief Judge Kor-Azor Roving Tribunal "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin." The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 Arkon's Adagia
Astera Zandraki Aideron Robotics 105	Posted - 2015.04.16 09:07:42 - [12] - Quote Good luck Mr. Antolliere, I look forward to flying with you. Birdsong
Gwen Ikiryo Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 577	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:00:56 - [13] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: We are not aligned to any particular political party, though the founder and CEO most closely identifies as a pro-military Dove. Forgive my lack of understanding of Federal political language, but isn't this a contradiction in terms? I understood the Dove platform advocated diplomacy and reduced defense spending.
Wendrika Hydreiga 287	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:02:02 - [14] - Quote Well, at least the corporation name is cool and not-tuber themed! Big plus that! And no dots either! I approve!
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1683	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:11:09 - [15] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: Yesterday, after much deliberation (and no small amount of trepidation), I decided upon the formation of Liberty Vanguard, a Federation-aligned paramilitary organization operating in a defense and security capacity toward Federation space, interests and assets. In other words, you are going to become "paramilitary organization" aligned with inhuman criminal regime. That will make you a criminal as well and you will be dealt with accordingly. With fire and steel.
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 330	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:45:11 - [16] - Quote Gwen Ikiryo wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: We are not aligned to any particular political party, though the founder and CEO most closely identifies as a pro-military Dove. Forgive my lack of understanding of Federal political language, but isn't this a contradiction in terms? I understood the Dove platform advocated diplomacy and reduced defense spending. It's quite alright and an easy conclusion to draw. The Dove platform ultimately seeks peaceful, non-military resolution to conflict. This involves a priority on diplomatic initiatives, responses, interests and so on. Military action is generally reserved as a "last resort" option. Doves will generally oppose any military action that is offensive in nature (invading another nation, setting up blockades or military embargoes, etc) but will reluctantly accept some military action if necessary bring diplomacy to the table. However, there is a division within the Dove bloc; there are some that promote the complete reduction of spending on military while another suggests maintaining military spending and development as a necessary part of maintaining our security and freedoms. I would belong to the latter group. A strong military is a must in today's geopolitical climate but I would prefer that military be used to defend and protect, not to destroy or conquer. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 330	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:51:32 - [17] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: In other words, you are going to become "paramilitary organization" aligned with inhuman criminal regime. That will make you a criminal as well and you will be dealt with accordingly. With fire and steel. Your opinion, misinformed as it is, was known before you stated it. Consider it duly noted. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 41358	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:56:11 - [18] - Quote Good luck with your new endeavor, Mr Antoliere. Aldrith Shutaq wrote: If only there were such a thing as friendly competition between capsuleers... Happens all the time in Anoikis. In fact corporate friendships and "arranged fights" are so common now days it's one of the more common complaints from pilots who dislike such things. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Tabor Murn Kaitaua Whamere 64	Posted - 2015.04.16 12:04:14 - [19] - Quote As a fellow new CEO and ally, I would like to wish Liberty Vanguard luck and offer assistance as necessary. Fly free.
Johanesse The Scope Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2015.04.16 12:37:23 - [20] - Quote Monsieur Antolliere, My very best regards with your future endeavours in the pursuit of Liberty, although I note the well tested-maxim at that times "a good offense is the best defense." Cordially, Johanesse d'Montbelliard, Esquire
Sinjin Mokk Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly. 33	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:15:29 - [21] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: The Dove platform ultimately seeks peaceful, non-military resolution to conflict. This involves a priority on diplomatic initiatives, responses, interests and so on. Military action is generally reserved as a "last resort" option. Doves will generally oppose any military action that is offensive in nature (invading another nation, setting up blockades or military embargoes, etc) but will reluctantly accept some military action if necessary bring diplomacy to the table. However, there is a division within the Dove bloc; there are some that promote the complete reduction of spending on military while another suggests maintaining military spending and development as a necessary part of maintaining our security and freedoms. I would belong to the latter group. A strong military is a must in today's geopolitical climate but I would prefer that military be used to defend and protect, not to destroy or conquer. So to clarify, are you law-enforcement or heavily-armed social workers? Either way, I pray God gives you everything you deserve. Angels... are never far. Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 333	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:26:14 - [22] - Quote Neither. My prayer for you is the same, Monsieur Mokk. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Cakzad Arcashiri Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.04.16 17:41:13 - [23] - Quote Even as a enemy of the Federation (as an Ammarian who are enemies with the Federation through our corrupt Caldari allies), I wish you good luck in your endeavors.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4646	Posted - 2015.04.16 18:04:03 - [24] - Quote Cakzad Arcashiri wrote: Even as a enemy of the Federation (as an Ammarian who are enemies with the Federation through our corrupt Caldari allies), I wish you good luck in your endeavors. That's hillarious. You want to talk about corruption, let me tell you about some of my interactions with Amarrian civil servants! "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 334	Posted - 2015.04.16 18:35:23 - [25] - Quote Gentlemen please... I would prefer you take your domestic disputes outside. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Desiderya Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 957	Posted - 2015.04.16 18:58:11 - [26] - Quote I'm at least three drinks short of starting domestic disputes on the IGS. Pieter, get your ass back now, this is a CTA. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 920	Posted - 2015.04.16 20:46:52 - [27] - Quote Are you considering entering the FDU ?
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4646	Posted - 2015.04.16 20:51:00 - [28] - Quote Desiderya wrote: I'm at least three drinks short of starting domestic disputes on the IGS. Pieter, get your ass back now, this is a CTA. Tuulinen domestic disputes have a five drink minimum. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 334	Posted - 2015.04.16 21:51:26 - [29] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: Are you considering entering the FDU ? That has yet to be determined but is a likely possibility. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 920	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:47:45 - [30] - Quote Sad...
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 337	Posted - 2015.04.17 11:02:29 - [31] - Quote Would you like to know what's "sad?" What's sad is when the cluster has reached a point that we, the self-proclaimed "elite," count among our number individuals who find it "sad" that someone would choose to defend their homeland, the people within it and the ideals upon which it was founded even through military action if necessary. That the choice to take a defensive stance, serving to protect those who cannot protect themselves, mitigate damage and chaos and strive to promote stability in an ever-shifting war zone is viewed as a negative thing. That's sad. Regardless of your opinions on the matter, regardless of what you wish to tell yourself or all of the statistics and propaganda you may wish to bring to your own defense; there are people living in the systems under the war zone; people whose lives are affected by the chaos, the turmoil, the conflict, the destruction and the flippancy and disregard of militias all too happy to consider them a statistic rather than people. I, for one, refuse to do nothing when I could do something. Save your judgments, they'll do you no good wasting them on me. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 920	Posted - 2015.04.17 11:50:11 - [32] - Quote I am sorry if I offended you sir. I just think that you actually contribute negatively to what you try to defend by taking part into the very system that turned those areas into scorched lands, where everything at stake is burnt to the glory of the LP militia stores... Like incursions, that regions have turned into farms tended by capsuleers for their enjoyment. I do not mean to attack the integrity of your character, or your motivations, sir... I really hope you can see that at least, even if out of disagreement.
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 337	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:04:59 - [33] - Quote I'm not offended, I simply took the opportunity to make my opinion on the matter clear as well. I thank you for a reasoned response. Any system, regardless of the intent behind its institution, can be used for good or ill. Though the militias and CEWPA may have turned the war zones into "scorched land," that very same system can be used to help promote and defend stability and security in those areas, which can lead to reconstruction and restoration. It's a long and lofty goal, but any goal worth striving for is. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Luna Hanaya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2015.04.18 06:31:39 - [34] - Quote Sinjin Mokk wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: The Dove platform ultimately seeks peaceful, non-military resolution to conflict. This involves a priority on diplomatic initiatives, responses, interests and so on. Military action is generally reserved as a "last resort" option. Doves will generally oppose any military action that is offensive in nature (invading another nation, setting up blockades or military embargoes, etc) but will reluctantly accept some military action if necessary bring diplomacy to the table. However, there is a division within the Dove bloc; there are some that promote the complete reduction of spending on military while another suggests maintaining military spending and development as a necessary part of maintaining our security and freedoms. I would belong to the latter group. A strong military is a must in today's geopolitical climate but I would prefer that military be used to defend and protect, not to destroy or conquer. So to clarify, are you law-enforcement or heavily-armed social workers? Either way, I pray God gives you everything you deserve. Angels... are never far. I loved that. (( If you are a roleplayer, or want to learn about roleplay, please join "*Out of Character" and "Intergalactic Summit*" channels in game, Lets show CCP that there are many roleplayers still here, and we want more Live Events!! ))
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1687	Posted - 2015.04.18 11:39:28 - [35] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: I can never tell whether it is better to have a hated enemy that you wish to fight, or an honorable enemy that you must fight. A question for the philosophers. While having a honorable enemy that you must fight you will fight coldly and calculative, showing your knowledge and skill, like you have been taught in the academy. Obviously, cold and calculative warrior will defeat a savage, who is led only by its rage. But on the other hand, if you have already learned how to fight with your knowledge and skill, you will prefer to have hated enemy. Because anger and hatred, if channeled carefully, can enhance your strength and endurance tenfold. If you will let hatred and anger to control you, you will lose ability to fight with skill and knowledge, and you will fail. But if you will be able to control and guide your hatred and anger towards your hated enemy, the efficiency of your applied skill will become way greater than your enemy or yourself would expect. Fighting against hated enemy, fighting when you wish to fight, when you protect others and wish death to enemy with every cell of your body, will allow you to make right choices and to sacrifice yourself when it will be needed without second thought.
Wendrika Hydreiga 289	Posted - 2015.04.18 13:46:43 - [36] - Quote You know what? At first all the things the Federation says sound appealing! Freedom, peace, unity, fraternity! And better work conditions too! Not to mention better pay! But then I remember how all their ships look like potatoes and start to ponder on all my life decisions up until this point... Here's hoping the Federation is destroyed during my immortal life-time and that mega-corporativism and meritocracy kicks in, and bans all tuber-like ship design! And now to make fun of Mister Antolliere because he is funny and a silly Gallente! Oui oui, cuisses de grenoille!
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 922	Posted - 2015.04.18 15:31:07 - [37] - Quote Grenouille.
Isaiah Bishop 1	Posted - 2015.04.18 15:55:39 - [38] - Quote Godspeed, VGRD.
Vechtor DuPont Enterprises 34	Posted - 2015.04.18 22:49:33 - [39] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: At this time, we do not have any formal plans for involvement in any military campaigns or statements of intent. I'm confused. I mean, don't get me wrong, but you just said the above but the information with regard to VGRD I could get from my circle of informants tells me you are going to join Faction Warfare. This is not criticism. Just a reasonable doubt.
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 341	Posted - 2015.04.19 09:13:05 - [40] - Quote Vechtor wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: At this time, we do not have any formal plans for involvement in any military campaigns or statements of intent. I'm confused. I mean, don't get me wrong, but you just said the above but the information with regard to VGRD I could get from my circle of informants tells me you are going to join Faction Warfare. This is not criticism. Just a reasonable doubt. Joining the militia does not entail immediately launching, or participating in, a military campaign. For clarification: a military campaign would be actions such as the recent blockade in Reitsato launched by GMVA, or a specific plan of action to capture or secure various systems or combat against a specific group or corporation. We have no plans to do any such activities at this time and joining the militia would be a step toward gaining legal rights to engage in the war zone, nothing more at this time. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Luna Hanaya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2015.04.19 13:49:26 - [41] - Quote One is going to a war only for one reason: to kill people. People often make up silly excuses, like they are going to reclaim, to conquer, to liberate, to free, to protect, to defend, but in the end it all goes down to killing people. This is what all wars are about. You may lie to others, you may lie even to yourself, but you won't be able to lie to God. (( If you are a roleplayer, or want to learn about roleplay, please join "*Out of Character" and "Intergalactic Summit*" channels in game, Lets show CCP that there are many roleplayers still here, and we want more Live Events!! ))
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 341	Posted - 2015.04.19 14:05:00 - [42] - Quote Luna Hanaya wrote: One is going to a war only for one reason: to kill people. People often make up silly excuses, like they are going to reclaim, to conquer, to liberate, to free, to protect, to defend, but in the end it all goes down to killing people. This is what all wars are about. You may lie to others, you may lie even to yourself, but you won't be able to lie to God. I have no need to lie to God. As you suggest, only God can know the intentions of the heart. Not you, despite your assertions otherwise. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1691	Posted - 2015.04.22 04:19:09 - [43] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: Would you like to know what's "sad?" What's sad is when the cluster has reached a point that we, the self-proclaimed "elite," count among our number individuals who find it "sad" that someone would choose to defend their homeland, the people within it and the ideals upon which it was founded even through military action if necessary. That the choice to take a defensive stance, serving to protect those who cannot protect themselves, mitigate damage and chaos and strive to promote stability in an ever-shifting war zone is viewed as a negative thing. That's sad. What is really sad, is that you are telling what is sad, while talking about choice to defend the homeland, but on other hand pledge your loyalty to the side of conflict, which occupies other side's homeland. While you gallentean occupants will continue to stay in Caldari Prime and in our colonies, we will keep fighting, and you will find no place to hide from our wraith! We will keep fighting and hunting every one of you down, until there are no Gallente on Caldari Prime!
Johanesse The Scope Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2015.04.30 21:01:10 - [44] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: Vechtor wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: At this time, we do not have any formal plans for involvement in any military campaigns or statements of intent. I'm confused. I mean, don't get me wrong, but you just said the above but the information with regard to VGRD I could get from my circle of informants tells me you are going to join Faction Warfare. This is not criticism. Just a reasonable doubt. Joining the militia does not entail immediately launching, or participating in, a military campaign. For clarification: a military campaign would be actions such as the recent blockade in Reitsato launched by GMVA, or a specific plan of action to capture or secure various systems or combat against a specific group or corporation. We have no plans to do any such activities at this time and joining the militia would be a step toward gaining legal rights to engage in the war zone, nothing more at this time. Nothing confusing at all. Monsieur Antolliere's position on military readiness is consistent with the time honored truism that "GÇ£To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering.GÇ¥ Le secret de la liberté est d'éclairer les hommes, comme celui de la tyrannie et de les retenir dans l'ignorance

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