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matty01
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 20:18:00 -
[301]
 Originally by: Pilk
you've already lost this war once. Stop telling the rest of us how to fight it; you'll excuse us for not trusting your judgment.
this was always fun hearing from our old alliance mates, ah good times good times
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.14 20:23:00 -
[302]
I stand corrected. Hans, my apologies.
I cannot help but notice that everyone ignored the other 82% (by character count) of my post. Is what I wrote there so self-evidently correct that it doesn't necessitate discussion? Cool.
--P
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:25:00 -
[303]
Edited by: Derrios on 14/11/2006 21:25:30
me too pilk.
The clarity of our logic can't be responded to, so they just ignore it.
you need to write more like "ZMKSDMFS F1 F2 ZOOM ZIP BANG WERE LEETU SUK", and that will warrant a response.
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<3 conspiracy theories. Originally by: Omeega
We (aAa) could do this - did this?
*/me hands the DBP paycheck with the small note - Please bbq AXE*
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Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:34:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
A certain faction left huzzah then started shooting huzzah towards the end, out of frustration with how Huzzah was being run.
Hans was pretty much the only thing holding Huzzah together towards the end.
News to me.
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 08:59:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Hoshino on 15/11/2006 09:00:45
Here are 2 of the reasons that it looks like -A- is doing so great in the killing
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8353#
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8343
Now kill in link number 2 is marked as a 19,5 mill isk lost but think its missing 400+ mill or more of market wallue, think that nos is just 200 mill on escrow  T1 items and ships lost show close to the accurate market wallue. Just brows the kb lott more kills like this.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:06:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Hoshino
Edited by: Hoshino on 15/11/2006 09:00:45
Here are 2 of the reasons that it looks like -A- is doing so great in the killing
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8353#
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8343
Now kill in link number 2 is marked as a 19,5 mill isk lost but think its missing 400+ mill or more of market wallue, think that nos is just 200 mill on escrow T1 items and ships lost show close to the accurate market wallue. Just brows the kb lott more kills like this.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter
Most boards do on insurance payout, the numbers would be still relative so the ratio really is the thing.
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King Fury
Caldari
New Justice
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:08:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Hoshino
Edited by: Hoshino on 15/11/2006 09:00:45
Here are 2 of the reasons that it looks like -A- is doing so great in the killing
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8353#
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8343
Now kill in link number 2 is marked as a 19,5 mill isk lost but think its missing 400+ mill or more of market wallue, think that nos is just 200 mill on escrow T1 items and ships lost show close to the accurate market wallue. Just brows the kb lott more kills like this.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter
What are you saying that 3A use t2 ships and your kb doesnt record true value? Surely it doesnt record your T2 ship losses accurately either? 
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:16:00 -
[308]
We dont fly t2 ships that much look at kb and comment then :)
But when we kill a -A- ship it is usualy t2 or officer fitted and usualy its t2 ships they roam in. But still dont need many vagabond kills so the kb starts missing few bills in isk lost
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:39:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Hoshino
We dont fly t2 ships that much look at kb and comment then :)
But when we kill a -A- ship it is usualy t2 or officer fitted and usualy its t2 ships they roam in. But still dont need many vagabond kills so the kb starts missing few bills in isk lost
You do realize we get our vagabonds cheaper than market value? So it's not a big deal to us if we lose one.
тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote:
- Numbers alone do not win a battle
- No, but I bet they help.
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:45:00 -
[310]
Quote:
You do realize we get our vagabonds cheaper than market value? So it's not a big deal to us if we lose one.
LOL and your officer loot from plex farming but does not change the fact that even if you get a vaga for 1 isk its worth is a lott more
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:47:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Hoshino
Quote:
You do realize we get our vagabonds cheaper than market value? So it's not a big deal to us if we lose one.
LOL and your officer loot from plex farming but does not change the fact that even if you get a vaga for 1 isk its worth is a lott more
It is NOT worth a lot more to us. But as I suspected, you're probably too stupid to understand. The measure of value of a kill is the the value of the ship to the person who lost it, not to the people who killed it, mkay?
тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote:
- Numbers alone do not win a battle
- No, but I bet they help.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:51:00 -
[312]
Edited by: Malachon Draco on 15/11/2006 09:51:07
Originally by: Sadist
Originally by: Hoshino
Quote:
You do realize we get our vagabonds cheaper than market value? So it's not a big deal to us if we lose one.
LOL and your officer loot from plex farming but does not change the fact that even if you get a vaga for 1 isk its worth is a lott more
It is NOT worth a lot more to us. But as I suspected, you're probably too stupid to understand. The measure of value of a kill is the the value of the ship to the person who lost it, not to the people who killed it, mkay?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
Opportunity cost, ever heard of it?
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:55:00 -
[313]
LOL so all the ships i have lost should not b wallued anything then cause i mined and built them myself rofl.
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:02:00 -
[314]
And we can take out all the isk lost for dreads to cause we built them man it does not wash what you loose must b wallued at marketing rate not what you can build it for if you build a hous it wallues goes up does not stay at the material and building cost.
So if you loose a vaga with a super cool 200mill nos and all t2 fitted its only what 19,5 mill for you cause you got nos for nothing and ship for next to nothing ROFL does not wash m8 no matter what economics theorys you want to link or post
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:18:00 -
[315]
No offense Hoshino but if you're bombing them back to the stone age then why do they still have POS in one of your systems?
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Hurad Takor
Minmatar
Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:22:00 -
[316]
Edited by: Hurad Takor on 15/11/2006 10:34:40
Edited by: Hurad Takor on 15/11/2006 10:25:59
"My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter"
You say you dont represent AXE ? i say blame axe totaly with that ****. i'am realy not AAA friendly (im ASCN friendly) but that things that you do in this forum is absolutly lamest and stupid.
Kill their POS'es kill their ship's and kick them out of oyur system, then can you talk. you show yourself like and losing idiot.
Question to AXE Corp CEO of Eye of God, is each member in your corp a smackfighter like Hoshino?
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Noobaque
Amarr
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:23:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
No offense Hoshino but if you're bombing them back to the stone age then why do they still have POS in one of your systems?
owned
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:05:00 -
[318]
Find 1 ref that i have posted were i say we are bombing them to stonage.
I have only stated that -A- is not owning us in impass and that we are doing alott better in the last weeks then they are. They are not in impass owning us and doing what they want. But its not like i cear what you say i started posting in this thread cause i saw a -A- forum lie and wanted that made right it has b done so b Sith8 and if i might ad werry well. Also saw some post on this thread were some -A- members were beating there chest cause they killed 9 AXE dreads and just wanted to get it in that CCP in its almighty wisdom saw there logintrap as a exploit and returned them.
I have also staded in post that -A- have some werry good pilots down there that are giving us hard time and respect to them.
I have also staded on many post that i look forward to kali cause then its going to b alott less hassel for us to kill thous stabbed to hell ships they use, and in my opinium you will see more -A- ships lost due to nerfing of wcs. Not flaming anyone with that statment its just how they fitt now and its working for them we have goten less kills cause of that.
Now what i was trying to point out that a dread kill is wallued in 1,54bill or rather 1,7 with fitting now that is not so far from market wallue its not the same but not that far from the truth, now a t2 hac kill is wallued less then 20 mill with its ubber t2 fitting and named fitting and that is far off from marketing wallue.
And lets face it -A- members have some realy nice modules fitted almost every kill we get its t2 or good named loot.
And Hurad Takor dont know what the bug up your ass is but take a chillpill and dont get so upsett just cause i told you to bug out already got my explain on this thieft pos from collectiv and it was a mistake just wanted that to come out in the open now plz tell me how im hurting myself axe and my corp b wanting -A- to make that right.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my personal thought on this matter
You see that statment in bold, it says that its me and not my corp or allianc that has anything to do with my posts.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:14:00 -
[319]
So, you guys attacked there pos, they had prearranged to regroup at like 1 am ( if i remember), Kill the very very poor support fleet and then kill the dread's in combat, you petition and get them back . It's not an exploit to log on, get ganged and attack someone attacking you. That's pretty messed up if true
Let's see who's standing at the end when the dust settle's |
Al Haquis
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:14:00 -
[320]
My God i thought i would never say this but AXE whines more the the Coalition and that for one is a huge task. So congrats AXE, im even thinking of moving some cheese down to you guys.
With Love From Al Haquis
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Radeberger
Caldari
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:23:00 -
[321]
This thread has about run it's course, if not i figured i would quote the original post starter, so people could try to get this thread back on the rail.
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Would be good to see how this conflict is progressing, try not to accuse the other side of logging out etc but please give good and as objective as can be status updates.
PS: Hoshino, please take some time and read this forums rules, which can be found here
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:24:00 -
[322]
Originally by: fire 59
So, you guys attacked there pos, they had prearranged to regroup at like 1 am ( if i remember), Kill the very very poor support fleet and then kill the dread's in combat, you petition and get them back . It's not an exploit to log on, get ganged and attack someone attacking you. That's pretty messed up if true
Hate to burst your bubble, but I got 4 out of 6 lost BS replaced in this war, and not just after nodecrashes, also after dying in very heavy lag. Only reason I didn't get a 5th of those back is because the isk was better than getting another BS (got about 8 left atm). Spent a little too much, so isk came handier than another BS.
And the rule is simple IMO: If CCP reimburses it, it was a valid petition. Never had a reimbursement petition refused so far 
Final point, I think the main problem with 68ft was not so much the login trap in and of itself, but more the extreme lag it caused, which entitled Axe to replacements.
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:36:00 -
[323]
Radeberger
Just so i say it like the 10th time or so in here im bugged my ticker does not show
Checked or not it just wont show
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:37:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Hoshino
Edited by: Hoshino on 15/11/2006 09:00:45
Here are 2 of the reasons that it looks like -A- is doing so great in the killing
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8353#
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8343
Now kill in link number 2 is marked as a 19,5 mill isk lost but think its missing 400+ mill or more of market wallue, think that nos is just 200 mill on escrow T1 items and ships lost show close to the accurate market wallue. Just brows the kb lott more kills like this.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter
Please spare a little of you're time to look at this:
From the collective killboard:
Collective has been involved in 1084 kills on axiom empire according to our killboard
Collective has lost 324 ships to axiom empire according to our killboard
From the AXE killboard:
Collective has been a involved in 428 kills on axiom empire according to your (axe) killboard.
And Collective has suffered 343 ship losses according to the axe killboard.
This is not for showing K:D ratio may i remind you, only to show how bad axe are at posting losses.
As you can see collective has almost all their losses posted while axe have a bit more then 1:3.
Hoshino, if you still think you own. You need to take kindergarden again.
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King Fury
Caldari
New Justice
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:41:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: fire 59
So, you guys attacked there pos, they had prearranged to regroup at like 1 am ( if i remember), Kill the very very poor support fleet and then kill the dread's in combat, you petition and get them back . It's not an exploit to log on, get ganged and attack someone attacking you. That's pretty messed up if true
Hate to burst your bubble, but I got 4 out of 6 lost BS replaced in this war, and not just after nodecrashes, also after dying in very heavy lag. Only reason I didn't get a 5th of those back is because the isk was better than getting another BS (got about 8 left atm). Spent a little too much, so isk came handier than another BS.
And the rule is simple IMO: If CCP reimburses it, it was a valid petition. Never had a reimbursement petition refused so far
Final point, I think the main problem with 68ft was not so much the login trap in and of itself, but more the extreme lag it caused, which entitled Axe to replacements.
All I ever see on forums is how bad lag is in fleet battles, so you saying after every large fleet battle, if you petition you get your stuff back?
Hoshini, Ive never seen anybody whine on the forums that there enemey use T2 ships and you use T1. Its normally the other way round 
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Hoshino
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:43:00 -
[326]
LOL not whyning about them using t2 im just saying that kb does not show true wallue of isk lost
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.15 12:02:00 -
[327]
It seems that some of AXE members messed us with another alliance well known for their posting abilities.
I`ll make it clear. Most of our community doesn`t need to read these forums. We got few valuable lessons in the past with "SE will be removed from Stain in 2 weeks", and "5ive is megauberhyper alliance, you will die when you`ll see us". So if you want to convince us how good you are, or how we are sucking in PvP - bring it IN GAME. If you continue to complain "aAa dont fight" - browse my latest posts, where i invited AXE commanders to arrange fight. I received ZERO eve-mails regarding that issue.
In short :
- Want to hurt us - do it in-game.
- Want to arrange fight - convo Evil Thug or Shifu
I hope that this is clear even for mental unstable people. Thanks for your time.
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swordslasher
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:02:00 -
[328]
Don't worry crucifier, we all remember back when everyone was complaining about Stain Empire and Xenobytes not having a single LOSS section to their board at all.
You guys are really ironic.
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Hoshino
Edited by: Hoshino on 15/11/2006 09:00:45
Here are 2 of the reasons that it looks like -A- is doing so great in the killing
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8353#
http://axe.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=8343
Now kill in link number 2 is marked as a 19,5 mill isk lost but think its missing 400+ mill or more of market wallue, think that nos is just 200 mill on escrow T1 items and ships lost show close to the accurate market wallue. Just brows the kb lott more kills like this.
My post does not represent AXE in anyway they are my own thoughts on this matter
Please spare a little of you're time to look at this:
From the collective killboard:
Collective has been involved in 1084 kills on axiom empire according to our killboard
Collective has lost 324 ships to axiom empire according to our killboard
From the AXE killboard:
Collective has been a involved in 428 kills on axiom empire according to your (axe) killboard.
And Collective has suffered 343 ship losses according to the axe killboard.
This is not for showing K:D ratio may i remind you, only to show how bad axe are at posting losses.
As you can see collective has almost all their losses posted while axe have a bit more then 1:3.
Hoshino, if you still think you own. You need to take kindergarden again.
Originally by: LeMoose
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Sho Usyagash
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:13:00 -
[329]
Originally by: swordslasher
Don't worry crucifier, we all remember back when everyone was complaining about Stain Empire and Xenobytes not having a single LOSS section to their board at all.
You guys are really ironic.
Looks like they did something about that, will you do the same?
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:14:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Sho Usyagash
Originally by: swordslasher
Don't worry crucifier, we all remember back when everyone was complaining about Stain Empire and Xenobytes not having a single LOSS section to their board at all.
You guys are really ironic.
Looks like they did something about that, will you do the same?
Thate was me BTW, default char fixed now.
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