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Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.03 01:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 03/11/2006 01:50:40 Originally by: Karn Mithralia LMAO .. this thread has some fine examples of the caring community we have here Anyway ... I'm with the OP. Yep, its for personal reasons, I'm a central time aussie player and DT ATM sux the big one. An hour earlier in the day would make an enormous difference for nearly all Australian players - and there a quite a lot of us these days. The OP is correct also in his assessment on US/UK players timing judging on the ones I know. If its not an issue to you cos your at work/school/dont-give-a-toss then why bother to comment? If DT is where DT is for purely CCP reasons (wot Rodg said), then so be it. But if not, please, consider a 1 hour shift forward. :D Hahaha, yeah. I feel so loved. I'm in Sydney and now daylight savings has kicked in I am screwed on weeknights. After dinner and the kids are in bed I get a solid hour or two online before going to bed. At the moment during that first hour Tranquility is down. Throw in the post DT lag fest and it is hardly worth logging in some nights. There are an increasing amount of us playing Eve now (rumour has it we even have electricity in Alice Springs but we are waiting on the camel train to get back with confirmation ). Bringing the DT forward by an hour would be great for us, then us working stiffs can look forward to 2-3hours of uptime in a row each night all year round. Something everyone else takes for granted. So many love to complain about extended DTs and patchdays but consider this for a moment. In my timezone those of us doing the 9 to 5 mostly play games in the evening. With DT when it is we have 15 days of downtime every year all spread accross our prime slot. After so many years I think it is fair enough that we just ask if we can be thrown a bone without all the flames. >> RECRUITING <<
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.03 02:48:00 - [2] Originally by: Maglorre Originally by: Telemicus Thrace I'm in Sydney and now daylight savings has kicked in I am screwed on weeknights. After dinner and the kids are in bed I get a solid hour or two online before going to bed. At the moment during that first hour Tranquility is down. Throw in the post DT lag fest and it is hardly worth logging in some nights. Brisbane here (so we don't get daylight saving... apparently so the cows won't get confused ) so DT always starts for me at 9pm. The kids are supposed to go to bed at 7:30 but are rarely settled by 8:00 so it's hard to get a full hour in before DT. However my biggest gripe is not the timing as it forces me off the computer to do some other stuff (like cleaning the kitchen, making a cup of tea... tucking my wife into bed ). My biggest gripe is the fact that it makes it almost impossible to do missions. I'm able to do level 3 missions now but I can't complete the harder ones in under 2 hours so if I want to do then I need to stay up very late to do so. If they could fix missions so that they did not reset all the NPCs and also so that the mission timer actually took the DT into account I'd be a very happy. Don't forget it also make your curtains fade faster . When we don't have DST the 9pm-10pm slot is liveable but it is indeed the reason I gave up on missions once I got a lvl4 agent. Just one hour would mean it lands in the 8-9pm slot on AEST in winter which gives a decent block of time to do big stuff in. When DST hits you still have a couple of hours. Of course if it moved the other way it would kill weekends. When I don't have work the next day I stay up late to get a decent few hours in. Of course lets be realistic, nobody gives a **** about the APAC so nothing will change. All we can do is put up with it until another good Sci-Fi MMO comes along that is online in our prime time. Until winter comes around again I'll be in Guild Wars on weeknights unless I have a skill change >> RECRUITING <<
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.03 04:54:00 - [3] Originally by: Gonada booo hooo Need a tissue? so, got anything useful to add? What time zone are you in? Would moving DT forward one hour even effect you? Lets at least try to keep the average IQ of these boards in the positive. DT is something that affects us Aussies and the rest of the APAC every evening, if you can't handle us discussing it then don't read the thread. Go whine about macro miners / WCS / ECM / BoB instead and let the grown ups talk. Originally by: Jerusalem Man Originally by: Telemicus Thrace ... So many love to complain about extended DTs and patchdays but consider this for a moment. In my timezone those of us doing the 9 to 5 mostly play games in the evening. With DT when it is we have 15 days of downtime every year all spread accross our prime slot. After so many years I think it is fair enough that we just ask if we can be thrown a bone without all the flames. In a game thats all about numbers I think this is the best argument I have seen to show why "change downtime" threads will come up occasionally and will have a large number Aussie posters. For us downtime often means we can't get on in the evenings for 2hrs straight. An obvious point missed by most posters saying don't change dt the server admins will still be asleep is that admins in Britain have dt an hour later during daylight savings anyway as it's always at 1100GMT. Although if they put dt back to 1000GMT during this period the Devs in Iceland would only just be getting up... Anyway would I like to see dt moved Yes, would I like to see dt gone OH YES, but in the end I will settle for an occasional post in a "change dt" thread (my first btw) that might make the devs think mmm maybe we only need to do this every 2 or 3 days... JM Yeah, moving DT an hour is a suggestion but certainly not the only option I'm sure. I'd settle for Eve being offline on Wednesday evenings if it meant I could get on the other six evenings of the week. I started a thread like this when I first joined Eve. The DT was and is the only thing that puts me off this game. The answer from the Devs at the time was that they were working to get rid of DT. A year and a half later nothing has changed, I don't see why we should get such a retarded and hostile response from the rest of the Eve "community" if we raise the subject again. I persevered and accepted DT, I look forward to the day we can do without it. Many I know did not, why pay $15 a month for a game that goes offline in the middle of every evening just when you get a chance to sit down and play it? Fair enough I reckon. I love this game, if I didn't then I would just keep my money and play something else. Rather than wait for an Eve alternative that is online all evening I'd like to see something done about DT. Can it be moved / got rid of / done every few days instead of nightly? >> RECRUITING <<
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.05 00:21:00 - [4] Originally by: QwaarJet Wow, some serious flaming going on here. The guy made a simple point, no need to tear him a new one. From my personal standpoint, a 9-10 downtime would be better, but it would be difficult to please enough people to make it worthwhile changing. Kudos to you though for having the balls to dispute downtime. It's great ain't it. You can have six new threads a day about "Ganked in Jita", "ECM / WCS / Logging Sucks", "Nerf someone / something". Some of the folks who get slapped in the face with DT every evening ask if there is any chance it could be moved by an hour and they get flamed to hell and back for asking. Originally by: Mephysto Move the DT? Not going to happen unless someone works out how to feed people coffee while they sleep. You should see the office before people have had there 3rd cup of the day. What exactly happens in DT and how much of CCP is directly involved is a mystery to me. The cluster is in London and DT is 1100-1200 GMT. BDST adds an hour in summer making that 1200-1300 London time for half the year? So for the guys in London, if DT were an hour earlier that means they would at the earliest be starting at 1000hrs? If for some reason DT requires some input from Iceland that is only GMT-2 which would be 0800hrs? I may have missed something in there, maybe us lot down under just start the day earlier. I don't get the numbers. Thanks for the official answer though. >> RECRUITING <<
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Kerosene The subscriber base has significantly increased for those whose primetime is downtime. It has increased more in other times - downtime is still the lowest population time. Check the server graphs. Hahaha, yeah never gets old that. Nobody plays during DT therefore it is in the right spot. On a serious note would you imagine growth may be somehow hampered by the servers being offline for an hour in the middle of primetime here everyday? Last year we were told CCP were working to do away with DT. This year it's a flat no, not going to do squat about DT. Maybe next year we'll have a win. Probably not though. Ah well, screw the APAC I guess is the MOTD. >> RECRUITING <<

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