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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:11:00 -
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Khadur
Minmatar Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:12:00 -
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O Rly?
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:13:00 -
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Oh look, it's mister content again.
Go home troll (again)
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Parsava Dei
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h
Ah yes, such indepth reasoning. Your explanation as to why we need a nerf is truly amazing...
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Twin blade
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:15:00 -
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How can you lot not agree with the OP looks at all them point's how can you say he is worng or a troll.
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Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:15:00 -
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IBTL
Thanks so much for that. I never saw it that way before! TUXFORD... this man makes a great point!
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:20:00 -
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sry, did thing again.. anyways i was reading threw other peoples threads and it is clear what eves problem is, the fact caldari is the only race who uses ECM and the only race with a fair counter to it (without nerfing ur setup for ECCM). Caldari has FoF missiles, gallente has drones... but they arnt main damage output, now caldari gets an EW battleships which with its slot layout (6-8-4) means you can happily mount 6 ecm 1 cap booster and a scrammer... who needs a tank?
(oh i know this is only one ship we are talking about here but when it gets a bonus to the most unfair mod in the game.... iwin anyone?)
gallente, amarr, and minmitar all have the usual setups of more lows than mediums... meaning tank and guns right? yet more mediums (the slots where everything counts ecm, sheilds, EW cap, ect...) is what caldari gets... my question is why does 1 race get the almighty advantage of not needing a tank and the ability to screw down about 3-4 ships at once? with the current DPS of torps the scorp can mount a happy assortment of rank 4 skill requiring missiles capable of dealing enough damage to wreck another battleship.. imbalance anyone?|
ECM being the races main EW item means they automaticaly have an advantage over others, with the 3 battleships each having a role of their own (scorp= EW, raven= missile, rohk= rails) and the other 3 races having overlapping and some nil pointed ships.
please post your opinions.
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: regergy6h on 02/11/2006 18:22:59 sry double posted.
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari Wu-Tang Financial Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h sry, did thing again.. anyways i was reading threw other peoples threads and it is clear what eves problem is, the fact caldari is the only race who uses ECM and the only race with a fair counter to it (without nerfing ur setup for ECCM). Caldari has FoF missiles, gallente has drones... but they arnt main damage output, now caldari gets an EW battleships which with its slot layout (6-8-4) means you can happily mount 6 ecm 1 cap booster and a scrammer... who needs a tank?
(oh i know this is only one ship we are talking about here but when it gets a bonus to the most unfair mod in the game.... iwin anyone?)
gallente, amarr, and minmitar all have the usual setups of more lows than mediums... meaning tank and guns right? yet more mediums (the slots where everything counts ecm, sheilds, EW cap, ect...) is what caldari gets... my question is why does 1 race get the almighty advantage of not needing a tank and the ability to screw down about 3-4 ships at once? with the current DPS of torps the scorp can mount a happy assortment of rank 4 skill requiring missiles capable of dealing enough damage to wreck another battleship.. imbalance anyone?|
ECM being the races main EW item means they automaticaly have an advantage over others, with the 3 battleships each having a role of their own (scorp= EW, raven= missile, rohk= rails) and the other 3 races having overlapping and some nil pointed ships.
please post your opinions.
This was a better post when it was blank.
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:26:00 -
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only thing that needs nerfing is the drake, hopefully all tier 2 BC get a slight nerf as they outdmg the command ships. either that or the command ships each get 1 extra high with 1turret/launcher port and the grid to fit it.
ecm is getting a nerf in kali only scorp, rook, BB and falcon will be ecm boats and they all have **** DPS. just means they go down first.
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:27:00 -
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troll... and look at the people who posted.. 3 of them were caldari.
says alot as soon as sumone says sumthing its beat them down with a stick time.
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn only thing that needs nerfing is the drake, hopefully all tier 2 BC get a slight nerf as they outdmg the command ships. either that or the command ships each get 1 extra high with 1turret/launcher port and the grid to fit it.
ecm is getting a nerf in kali only scorp, rook, BB and falcon will be ecm boats and they all have **** DPS. just means they go down first.
the fact caldari has a battleship that uses this module is the unfair part, as battleships are the most used type of ship in the game(not based on anything but past experience)
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:32:00 -
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Here's and idea. Why don't you play the game before you decide what need's changing.
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Epidemis
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Epidemis on 02/11/2006 18:33:52 Imo, nerf missiles, their tracking speed stat (or explosion velocity/radius) is more forgiving than any other weapon type, overall more useful and less bothersome. Since I recently upgraded to a rupture, I have seen first hand how superior missiles are over projectiles/hybrids even with my rupture's 33% (circa) bonus to projectile dmg, especially in PvE.
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h
Originally by: Commander Thrawn only thing that needs nerfing is the drake, hopefully all tier 2 BC get a slight nerf as they outdmg the command ships. either that or the command ships each get 1 extra high with 1turret/launcher port and the grid to fit it.
ecm is getting a nerf in kali only scorp, rook, BB and falcon will be ecm boats and they all have **** DPS. just means they go down first.
the fact caldari has a battleship that uses this module is the unfair part, as battleships are the most used type of ship in the game(not based on anything but past experience)
What you fail to understand is that the scorpions damage output is as good as an ibis....(not rly but you get the idea). But perhaps the most important issue is that when a scorpion warps in everyone simply goes: "omg get it!!!" and she goes BOOOOM!!!. So stop your whining and crawl back to the hole you came from.
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Alassra Eventide
Veldspar Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:37:00 -
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I've got the perfect Nerf to solve this issue once and for all!
All Devs and players please post feedback!
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Here's and idea. Why don't you play the game before you decide what need's changing.
3 years... 3 years mate posting on alt because stuff like this gets ya flamed.
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Alassra Eventide
Veldspar Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:40:00 -
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Posting with alts usually leads to more flaming.
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:41:00 -
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bite me lol...
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Epidemis Edited by: Epidemis on 02/11/2006 18:33:52 Imo, nerf missiles, their tracking speed stat (or explosion velocity/radius) is more forgiving than any other weapon type, overall more useful and less bothersome. Since I recently upgraded to a rupture, I have seen first hand how superior missiles are over projectiles/hybrids even with my rupture's 33% (circa) bonus to projectile dmg, especially in PvE.
You are lazy imperial carebear never being in PvP, aren't you? So shut up. But really, missiles are weapon for you.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Here's and idea. Why don't you play the game before you decide what need's changing.
3 years... 3 years mate posting on alt because stuff like this gets ya flamed.
Lol, 3 years and you're that clueless? You're also responsible for the previous thread?
I don't believe you.
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h troll... and look at the people who posted.. 3 of them were caldari.
says alot as soon as sumone says sumthing its beat them down with a stick time.
i can fly caldary but i actually fly mainly amarr ships, i fly amarr, hac's, AF and have my tech II lar energy's
trust me ecm is only overpower in its current state. a scorp does by far the least DPS of all BS in game, yes it can lock down a 1 BS but its now a soloownmobile
a Domi will kill it easy launch drones get lock for 1 second and the scorp will have a ****ty day, otherwsise you just have to be smart, don't engage ecm boats solo. But at least you know what they are
the current issues with ecm is that a rifter can jam a geddon. although this will still be possible, it has been somewhat nerfed and will be less likely.
caldary is all good
the real issue with upcomming kali is the 50% HP boost which causes all hybrid and laser users to run low on cap and give the advantage to caldary missile boat and mini ships. we shall see how this plays out
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Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:46:00 -
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You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Try flying Caldari and then come back here. FOF missiles.. LOL
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:48:00 -
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3 ecm armed scorps vs 7 b-throns 6 ecm each?
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Little Fistter
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:51:00 -
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Rock. Paper. Scissors.
If you always pick paper and lose, its easier to say "Nerf Scissors" than to train your skills or pick Rock?
Seriously, since the Great Raven/missle Nerf of 2004, Caldari sucks. An Aapocalypse or a Tempest can chew through anything Caldari, heck even the inferior Megathron is a contender now.
How about we Nerf Jovians?
Yeah, that's the ticket!!!
You may not been a n00b but you still are clueless!
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:52:00 -
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12 torp launchers vs... hold on a minute... we cant lock?
(drones will get pwned before mega can send them)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Here's and idea. Why don't you play the game before you decide what need's changing.
3 years... 3 years mate posting on alt because stuff like this gets ya flamed.
If I posted something like this on an alt, it'd get flamed. If I posted it on Nyphur, it'd be flamed a little less and start a discussion. Flaming has as much to do with who's post you're flaming as it does with the content of the post. What I mean is that people are less likely to flame someone who might know what they're talking about and might stop to at least consider your points if you didn't have an exclamation mark for a head and a name that looks like you mashed the keyboard with your left hand.
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Little Fistter Rock. Paper. Scissors.
If you always pick paper and lose, its easier to say "Nerf Scissors" than to train your skills or pick Rock?
Seriously, since the Great Raven/missle Nerf of 2004, Caldari sucks. An Aapocalypse or a Tempest can chew through anything Caldari, heck even the inferior Megathron is a contender now.
How about we Nerf Jovians?
Yeah, that's the ticket!!!
You may not been a n00b but you still are clueless!
clueless at what? name 1 thing that im not correct about please.. it is true that caldari is the only race to get an EW battleship, they have the most powerful EW in the game? 3 scorps can take on alot more ships than themselves? i was in combat recently... and this really peeves me the fact that 2 scorps disabled 6 ships and then a raven swept in and torped them todeath with a nos domi in close eating up our cap. (which btw also deserves a nerf)
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: regergy6h 3 ecm armed scorps vs 7 b-throns 6 ecm each?
B-throns win. Single B-thron can tank 3 Scorps for what 4 minutes? You need 1 Lapse in 1 Mega for 30 secs to lose a Scorp and then all hell breaks loose...
Try soloing in a Caldari ship that is not a ceptor and you ll be screaming for a Caldari buff... talk about grass and the other side... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: regergy6h
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Here's and idea. Why don't you play the game before you decide what need's changing.
3 years... 3 years mate posting on alt because stuff like this gets ya flamed.
If I posted something like this on an alt, it'd get flamed. If I posted it on Nyphur, it'd be flamed a little less and start a discussion. Flaming has as much to do with who's post you're flaming as it does with the content of the post. What I mean is that people are less likely to flame someone who might know what they're talking about and might stop to at least consider your points if you didn't have an exclamation mark for a head and a name that looks like you mashed the keyboard with your left hand.
right hand, stop trollin my post and contribute.
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