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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
18124
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:25:52 -
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YC117-4-28
Carthum Conglomerate has today released a module based on tech recovered from the Seekers and Drifter Battleships, dubbed the "Entosis Link". Knowing this, Jovian Labs prepared to begin production of these Links, and today undertook an operation to determine the effect they have on the Jove Observatories.
The results have been astonishing.
Multiple confirmed reports from JLABS pilots, after only a short time, have shown that using the Entosis Links on the Observatories allows us to glean previously unheard of observational information, indicating that the Jove have indeed been listening to New Eden; the data has been extracted in the form of dated entries, and the earliest found glean as of yet details the formation of the Gallente Federation itself over two hundred years ago:
Gleaned Information wrote:23121-09-11
Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves.
Not only does this signify the lowest boundary of how long the Jove have been observing us; the date is a staggering discovery. Later entries use the YC designation, but by all indications this format suggests a timeline reaching farther into the past than we have ever imagined; this insight into the Joves' knowledge has prompted us to begin further investigations of the Observatories and beyond. Further information on additional operations will be announced soon.
Other entries gleaned from the observatories detail well-known events, such as the Minmatar Elder attack on Yulai in the form of a seemingly intercepted communique, and other, unknown events.
The latest two entries are very interesting:
Gleaned Information wrote:YC117-1-12
They could not predict this?
Gleaned Information wrote:YC117-2-09
Cloaking system failure. Proximity alert. Initiate system shutdown.
The second glean details the final failure of the cloaks on the Observatories, and that they have now been taken offline. The Caroline's Star event appears to have disrupted their system, causing fluctuations and errors until the system finally failed.
The first entry is troubling; the Jove are surprised that we as capsuleers have failed to anticipate some event. What that is, we can only guess; but it would seem that the message is in response to the appearance of the Seeker drones and the Drifter Battleships.
Further study is needed; the Observatories have been revealed to be deeply important to both the past and the future of New Eden.
Further information will be detailed in coming days as we continue analysis and plan future operations.
-Uriel, Archivist and Emergent Event Analyst at JLABS
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Cakzad Arcashiri
Crown Humanitarian Aid Organization
29
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:12:10 -
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I am deffinently going to get one of these. Can you use them cloaked, or will people with not enough firepower just need to find a cleared out Observatory? |
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
937
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:53:48 -
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I was wondering if the locations of the towers has any effect on the information gleaned from them, or if they all share the same data (ie. are they networked together) |
Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
940
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:27:40 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Gleaned Information wrote:YC117-1-12
They could not predict this?
CONCORD INNER CIRCLE STATEMENT ON "CAROLINE'S STAR" AND THE "THERA" SYSTEM
CIRCADIAN SEEKERS: DED ADVISORY
Those are some major things that were discussed on YC 117-1-12. Could it be that the "They could not predict this" is referring to whatever it is the SoE or someone else did to cause Caroline's Star? The Observatories wondering why it could not be predicted, assuming that whoever was doing those actions would have known the explosion would've been the result? |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
393
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:36:33 -
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At least two more such data logs were recovered from an Observatory in Goram. Their content follows:
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC116-01-27: Multiple ultra high energy fluctuations developing. Recording numerous S.O.S. transponders.
YC115-05-07: "...you are encroaching on sovereign Federation space, return to Republic space pr you will be fired upon."
YC112-05-12: Multiple artificial gravitational anomalies detected cluster wide.
YC110-05-15: ... summit between the Federation and the Caldari State, where a general evacuation order was issued mom...
YC110-10-31: ... in the Gallente Federation, is known primarliy for harboring a particular kind of plant life know as the Isirus poppy.
Gleaned Information wrote:
23121-09-11 - Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves.
23146-05-20 - Azbel-Wuthrich experiment has been a success. Planetary communications reveal the message as ";-)"
23154-12-12 - Randomized sweeps of recently seceded Caldari communications indicate that alternative source for model of social cohesion will be increasingly defined by opposition to Gallente model. Schism becoming pronounced. Threshold for constructive comparison of existing conditions approaching.
23194-02-01 - Gallente have created an agency known as The Scope for the dissemination of information across Empires. Suggest that this network be monitored. Potential to extrapolate prototype for impartial communication between disparate enclaves.
23216-06-06 - In position at Diemnon Planetesimal. Collating system scans. Source of burst unidentified. Team dispatched. Alert still in effect.
YC11-03-11 - Life sign detected aboard the ship. Contrary to intelligence gather by Villore observatory, vessel not destroyed. Remaining in Ouperia to monitor.
These logs could very well contain keys to our entire history, insight into what the Jove were thinking, and even how they felt about what was happening. What an unparalleled opportunity. |
Haria Haritimado
EVE University
Ivy League
29
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:07:47 -
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This is an amazing breakthrough and might mark a historical turning point in the future. I hope we will be able to turn the findings into a thorough, alternative perspective on our history. And it may as well completely change our future relation to the Jove civilization. If they were watching, they will watch us still. And they will assess how we relate ourselves to their own view on us.
First I was disappointed when I learned that the observatories are actually mere listening posts with the purpose to spy on us. Isn't there nothing else more important to achieve with such advanced technology? But on a second thought, we're only scratching on the surface.
I'm looking forward to a time of intensified collaboration to solve the riddle together with fellow pilots and colleagues from Arek'jaalan. You're doing an inspiring work.
H. Haritimado
Character blog: Horizons and Reflections
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Esna Pitoojee
Offworld Trading Company
Ethical Carnage
493
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:52:45 -
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Looking at the data Mr. Malkyre pointed us towards, some of the events both esoteric and well-known the recovered fragments mention include...
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC116-01-27: Multiple ultra high energy fluctuations developing. Recording numerous S.O.S. transponders.
Battle of B-R5B
Quote:YC115-05-07: "...you are encroaching on sovereign Federation space, return to Republic space pr you will be fired upon."
The battle of Colelie
Quote:YC112-05-12: Multiple artificial gravitational anomalies detected cluster wide.
Marks the beginning of the still-ongoing Sansha's Nation assault against the civilized cluster.
Quote:YC110-10-31: ... in the Gallente Federation, is known primarliy for harboring a particular kind of plant life know as the Isirus poppy.
Refers to the first attack on Evaulon by Serpentis pirates.
Quote:YC11-03-11 - Life sign detected aboard the ship. Contrary to intelligence gather by Villore observatory, vessel not destroyed. Remaining in Ouperia to monitor.
Refers to the initial damage of the gate construction vessel en route to the system now known as Old Man Star.
Do note, however, that I am now receiving reports of additional recovered data pointing towards - among other things - a monitoring of the events leading to the emergence of the clone mercenaries and a prediction that Sansha's Nation would again attack the cluster. |
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:23:46 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Gleaned Information wrote:YC117-1-12
They could not predict this? CONCORD INNER CIRCLE STATEMENT ON "CAROLINE'S STAR" AND THE "THERA" SYSTEMCIRCADIAN SEEKERS: DED ADVISORYThose are some major things that were discussed on YC 117-1-12. Could it be that the "They could not predict this" is referring to whatever it is the SoE or someone else did to cause Caroline's Star? The Observatories wondering why it could not be predicted, assuming that whoever was doing those actions would have known the explosion would've been the result?
Or that the seekers are actually started to arm themselves after multiple capsuleer acts of agression.
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
150
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Posted - 2015.04.29 13:36:52 -
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I accidentally a proteus
Well, I was sitting on an observatory in mah prot spinning mah T1 entosis on the tower, and then a pack of seekers lurks in. They start shooting me (!), and I kinda decide to fight back. So 2 entosis cycles later they call backup. Either they thought I'm not dying fast enough, or they are dying too fast, but a drifter BS comes in. And, uhh, you can't exactly warp out with entosis active
So pop goes the greeny
But I've got you some presents that survived the untimely demise of my not-yet-a-day-old vessel.
http://i.imgur.com/lytN0XY.png
Does anyone know if the Big Daddy comes even if you don't fight back. Because I'm thinking just tanking it out the next time. |
Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
121
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Posted - 2015.04.29 14:23:13 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:I accidentally a proteus Well, I was sitting on an observatory in mah prot spinning mah T1 entosis on the tower, and then a pack of seekers lurks in. They start shooting me (!), and I kinda decide to fight back. So 2 entosis cycles later they call backup. Either they thought I'm not dying fast enough, or they are dying too fast, but a drifter BS comes in. And, uhh, you can't exactly warp out with entosis active So pop goes the greeny But I've got you some presents that survived the untimely demise of my not-yet-a-day-old vessel. http://i.imgur.com/lytN0XY.pngDoes anyone know if the Big Daddy comes even if you don't fight back. Because I'm thinking just tanking it out the next time.
I just sat and tanked circadians for about 40 cycles of the entosis link yesterday on an observatory. |
Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
476
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:04:14 -
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Irregessa wrote:Torgeir Hekard wrote:I accidentally a proteus Well, I was sitting on an observatory in mah prot spinning mah T1 entosis on the tower, and then a pack of seekers lurks in. They start shooting me (!), and I kinda decide to fight back. So 2 entosis cycles later they call backup. Either they thought I'm not dying fast enough, or they are dying too fast, but a drifter BS comes in. And, uhh, you can't exactly warp out with entosis active So pop goes the greeny But I've got you some presents that survived the untimely demise of my not-yet-a-day-old vessel. http://i.imgur.com/lytN0XY.pngDoes anyone know if the Big Daddy comes even if you don't fight back. Because I'm thinking just tanking it out the next time. I just sat and tanked circadians for about 40 cycles of the entosis link yesterday on an observatory.
I think you're working for the Drifters, seeding disinformation to lure more victims in.
Mind control.
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Tatius Jorgstern
Azimuth Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:20:21 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:I accidentally a proteus Well, I was sitting on an observatory in mah prot spinning mah T1 entosis on the tower, and then a pack of seekers lurks in. They start shooting me (!), and I kinda decide to fight back. So 2 entosis cycles later they call backup. Either they thought I'm not dying fast enough, or they are dying too fast, but a drifter BS comes in. And, uhh, you can't exactly warp out with entosis active So pop goes the greeny But I've got you some presents that survived the untimely demise of my not-yet-a-day-old vessel. http://i.imgur.com/lytN0XY.pngDoes anyone know if the Big Daddy comes even if you don't fight back. Because I'm thinking just tanking it out the next time.
Two Drifter battleships have warped in right after a single Circadian Seeker showed up at the Jove Observatory. I almost got 7th gleaned information sheet when they crashed the party. I didn't fight back at all.
The kicker is that there was no unidentified wormhole in the system for Drifters to come through. There's multiple reports of Seekers and Drifters just roaming around the systems where they weren't present before.
I can link a video, but not sure if I'm allowed here. |
Nakami Saans
Perkone
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:38:39 -
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Tatius Jorgstern wrote:Torgeir Hekard wrote:I accidentally a proteus Well, I was sitting on an observatory in mah prot spinning mah T1 entosis on the tower, and then a pack of seekers lurks in. They start shooting me (!), and I kinda decide to fight back. So 2 entosis cycles later they call backup. Either they thought I'm not dying fast enough, or they are dying too fast, but a drifter BS comes in. And, uhh, you can't exactly warp out with entosis active So pop goes the greeny But I've got you some presents that survived the untimely demise of my not-yet-a-day-old vessel. http://i.imgur.com/lytN0XY.pngDoes anyone know if the Big Daddy comes even if you don't fight back. Because I'm thinking just tanking it out the next time. Two Drifter battleships have warped in right after a single Circadian Seeker showed up at the Jove Observatory. I almost got 7th gleaned information sheet when they crashed the party. I didn't fight back at all. The kicker is that there was no unidentified wormhole in the system for Drifters to come through. There's multiple reports of Seekers and Drifters just roaming around the systems where they weren't present before. I can link a video, but not sure if I'm allowed here.
I've heard that the Drifters are using gates to get from systems to system now.
Looking for a home. Explorer at heart with an interest in learning to PvP.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1700
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Posted - 2015.04.29 19:15:39 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:YC117-4-28Carthum Conglomerate has today released a module based on tech recovered from the Seekers and Drifter Battleships, dubbed the "Entosis Link". Knowing this, Jovian Labs prepared to begin production of these Links, and today undertook an operation to determine the effect they have on the Jove Observatories. The results have been astonishing. Gleaned Information wrote:23121-09-11
Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves.
They what?!
Does it mean Jove are hostile now and should be eliminated as supporters of gallentean occupants and atrocities?
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Markus Error
Her Majesty's Crown Corporation
30
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Posted - 2015.04.29 19:31:14 -
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Yes, please. Do try and take on the Jove. I could use some amusement.
As to Drifters making intersystem jumps... perhaps they use wormholes as we do? 'Hole through, explore the system and a few surrounding it, then return via the same wormhole?
Pator IV - Moon 6 - School of Hard Knocks
Prof. Markus 'Error' Sierra, Cynicism Deptartment
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Arkady Vachon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
1333
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Posted - 2015.04.29 22:06:06 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:YC117-4-28Carthum Conglomerate has today released a module based on tech recovered from the Seekers and Drifter Battleships, dubbed the "Entosis Link". Knowing this, Jovian Labs prepared to begin production of these Links, and today undertook an operation to determine the effect they have on the Jove Observatories. The results have been astonishing. Gleaned Information wrote:23121-09-11
Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves. They what?! Does it mean Jove are hostile now and should be eliminated as supporters of gallentean occupants and atrocities?
Looks more and more like the Jove saw all of the rest of the star cluster as a giant laboratory, Diana, and us - all of us - as their lab rats, only throwing us some technological cheese once in a while.
Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content
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Nakami Saans
Perkone
Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:49:46 -
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Arkady Vachon wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:YC117-4-28Carthum Conglomerate has today released a module based on tech recovered from the Seekers and Drifter Battleships, dubbed the "Entosis Link". Knowing this, Jovian Labs prepared to begin production of these Links, and today undertook an operation to determine the effect they have on the Jove Observatories. The results have been astonishing. Gleaned Information wrote:23121-09-11
Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves. They what?! Does it mean Jove are hostile now and should be eliminated as supporters of gallentean occupants and atrocities? Looks more and more like the Jove saw all of the rest of the star cluster as a giant laboratory, Diana, and us - all of us - as their lab rats, only throwing us some technological cheese once in a while.
I think they gave us capsuleer technology for the sole purpose of studying whether or not we would get the same genetic disease they did by over use of the technology. They probably believe that if they see the disease in an early enough stage they will be able to design a cure for it.
Personally I don't care if they are using us as lab rats for that end. If they find a cure for the disease they better share it because I don't want to die from that disease. Nasty way to go if you ask me. I'll die when I'm ready.
Looking for a home. Explorer at heart with an interest in learning to PvP.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1077
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Posted - 2015.05.05 09:48:30 -
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YC116-01-27: Multiple ultra high energy fluctuations developing. Recording numerous S.O.S. transponders.
Battle of B-R5RB
YC112-05-12: Multiple artificial gravitational anomalies detected cluster wide.
The Sansha Nation War of Resurgence
YC115-05-07: "..you are encroaching on sovereign Federation space, return to Republic space or you will be fired upon."
The Battle of Colelie
YC110-05-15: ... summit between the Federation and Caldari State, where a general evacuation order was issued mom ...
when Admiral Alexander Noir flew a Nyx into Ishukone Headquarters
YC110-10-31: ... in the Gallente Federation, is known primarily for harboring a particular kind of plant life known as the Isirus poppy.
(but this is YC114?)
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1077
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Posted - 2015.05.05 10:49:59 -
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YC105-12-22 - Give them tools and they may evolve.
Crielere projectGÇÖs technological advances were unveiled and made freely available to the public
YC106-03-11 - Give them symbols and they may stagnate.
Khumaak issue came to a head, with the Republic Parliament eventually adopting a compromise measure providing for the symbol to remain sanctioned for display on fleet, military and state apparel but banned from display at state occasions, particularly those involving contact with representatives of the Amarr Empire. In general, the entire move to ban the Khumaak was felt to have backfired, as it started a widely-adopted fashion of wearing the object among Minmatar in the Republic.
YC107-07-05 - ...recommend discarding current primary node for that model.
could the Jove have been behind the assassination of Emperor DORIAM II? with him being they "primary node" for the Amarr.
YC108-05-16 - They only notice small tragedies.
Mentas Blaque commemorative speech honoring the Gallenteans who had died there when the Caldari Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba flew his carrier into the planet's atmosphere during the Gallente-Caldari War.
YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions.
need help with this one. the only thing that happened was this but i'm not sure how it ties in with names defining perceptions
YC110-12-25 - Give them what they want and it may destroy them.
Empress Jamyl I ordered the emancipation of all slaves of 9th generation and upwards, with the additional emancipation of all slaves working as academics or theologians.
YC111-03-10 - Self-interest continues to outweigh self-sacrifice.
The Seyllin Disaster
YC112-03-04 - Does this duplicate portions of the Skarkon model?
this is drawing a comparison with the Inataki system and what happened in the Skarkon system
Will continue finishing the last 8 in the morning
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Zane Ziebold
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
Usurper.
26
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:07:04 -
[20] - Quote
YC114-03-03 - Priority alert. Amarr vessel detected emerging from Anoikis amongst armored expeditionary fleet. Cargo contains a large quantity of implants meeting revised conditions.
I thought this was interesting, it is referencing when Amarr started taking the implants for the start of the research for the dust soldiers |
Deceiver's Echo
True Resource Acquisition Corporation
46
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:50:52 -
[21] - Quote
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions. need help with this one. the only thing that happened was this but i'm not sure how it ties in with names defining perceptions
It is easy to understand.
"Minmatar"
"Amarr"
We are all residents of New Eden, yet there are those who judge based on where we are from, our lineage, what names they associate with us.
It is a simple observation. This is evidence of what it leads to, and a generalization that fits all of us. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
672
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Posted - 2015.05.07 03:09:31 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions. need help with this one. the only thing that happened was this but i'm not sure how it ties in with names defining perceptions
Respectfully, names are illusions from the beginning. Names are a sort of navigational shorthand, allowing our minds to associate particular concepts with other particular concepts.
In the Totality, I am not "Aria Jenneth," or "Vesper," or any other name. I'm ... sort of a zone of particles that interacts in a lot of different ways with other zones.
And that's about as close to reality as names come. Naming groups is at least as erroneous as naming individuals, and maybe more so.
For example: I gather that Chamberlain Karsoth has now been identified as a Sani cultist. An identification of him as Amarr would be disputed, from current points of view, but he was clearly "Amarr" at the time. Similarly, we now know that the Republic was preparing the Elder fleet for war on the Empire, but the Republic puts any such intention off on "repeatedly disavowed splinter groups."
As you see, being ruled by "names" doesn't need to be limited to proper nouns.
This name is good. This name is bad. This name is me. That name is you. This other name over here is a sandwich.
... which you probably assumed meant it was food, right?
We let our perceptions be ruled by names. The impressive idea here is that the Jove somehow don't, which would be pretty amazing if it were true.
An entire civilization of Elder Visionaries, in which semiotic communication is not accepted as a reality unto itself? ... that would be ... astonishing, if they achieved it. |
Kadeshi Pride
Phoenix Naval Academy
Phoenix Naval Systems
0
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Posted - 2015.05.09 13:22:46 -
[23] - Quote
Has anyone thought of running an Entosis Link on a Drifter Battleship? |
Kerena Alabel
TerminalDogma
Stain Confederation
21
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Posted - 2015.05.09 15:27:22 -
[24] - Quote
Kadeshi Pride wrote:Has anyone thought of running an Entosis Link on a Drifter Battleship?
Yes. it doesnt work. And our pilot died quite spectacularly. Such is the price of research. |
Threll Lornax
The Sleepless Vanguard
9
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Posted - 2015.05.09 16:04:50 -
[25] - Quote
Has there been confirmed attempts at using the entosis link on certain sleeper structures? I have myself tried in class 6 anomaly "Core Bastion", but without result. The already somewhat vocal structures in "The Mirror" comes to mind, not to mention certain locations in the shattered systems that were found recently. |
Threll Lornax
The Sleepless Vanguard
9
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:38:09 -
[26] - Quote
In comment to my own last post, I had the opportunity to test the entosis link on sleeper enclaves in The Mirror. Sadly, Without result. I suspect the ability to interface with the Jove observatories was pure luck. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8160
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:00:22 -
[27] - Quote
Threll Lornax wrote:In comment to my own last post, I had the opportunity to test the entosis link on sleeper enclaves in The Mirror. Sadly, Without result. I suspect the ability to interface with the Jove observatories was pure luck.
Incompatibility, some defence mechanisms, or maybe data banks were purged, there is more explanations as you can see.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers.
Forsaken Asylum
88
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Posted - 2015.05.11 18:45:59 -
[28] - Quote
This is an excellent compilation of work. I hope someone is gathering an archive of this data
If said parties need assistance in archiving the data please contact me. I would be most interested in assisting.
"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
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Michael Pawlicki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:55:43 -
[29] - Quote
Markus Error wrote:Yes, please. Do try and take on the Jove. I could use some amusement.
You. I like you. In other news, the AJ initiative has begun keeping an eye on Unidentified Wormholes in the cluster in an attempt to find the good Dr. Tukoss. I suggest we keep our eyes out for any changes, |
bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.05.31 09:53:33 -
[30] - Quote
Aria Jenneth wrote:
We let our perceptions be ruled by names. The impressive idea here is that the Jove somehow don't, which would be pretty amazing if it were true.
Well That Would Explain The Naming Of The Drifters As They Share The Names, Apollo Tyrannos or Artemis Tyrannos. And Also Tie In That They Are An Old Drifter Faction |
Specia1 K
State War Academy
Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2015.06.08 05:07:41 -
[31] - Quote
Another piece of the puzzle retrieved.
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC105-5-29 - So fragile, these minds. So fleeting, their crimes.
YC106-12-20 - Step One: Build a Better Ant.
YC107-09-15 - Step Two: Kick over The Ant Hill.
YC108-09-26 - Step Three: Assess.
YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.
YC110-06-10 - Step Four: Reiterate.
YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulence'?
YC112-12-13 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Infiltration Disclosure. Subtype: Wedge Mirror. Actor: True Power. Targeted Interstice: CONCORD - Capsuleer Cohort. Motivation:...
YC113-07-07 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Resource Shift. Subtype: Need Further Data. Actor: Need Further Data. Targeted Interstice: 4 Potentials. 1)...
YC114-05-14 - They are not yet acknowledging the pattern.
YC115-03-22 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Apoptosis...
YC116-01-01 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Cathexis...
YC117-01-12 - They could not predict this?
YC111 - Capsuleer espionage detected.
YC108 - 'Titan' class vessel detected. Receiving data.
YC112 - Sansha activity registered.
YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth.
YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes."
YC105 - Location: Rethan. Class: Yacht. Maker: Viziam.
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Specia1 K
State War Academy
Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2015.06.08 05:09:32 -
[32] - Quote
I don't believe this was shared either.
Almost lost my ship getting this one.
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC9-11-03 - "Now if you look to section eight of the report, you will see that the new system provides an unprecedented level of harmony. The new electrochemical system eliminates undesirable reactions and emotions in 34% of testers. With further development, I am certain we can truly make everyone happy."
YC37-08-23 - Gamma Enclave recently available personnel: 44 cybernetics experts, 32 geneticists, 9 materials scientists, 6 sociologists. Awaiting kitz assignment.
YC110-10-03 - GǪrbinger of hope. I am the sword of the righteous, and to all who hear my words I say this: What you give to thiGǪ"
YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data."
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Specia1 K
State War Academy
Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2015.06.08 05:13:08 -
[33] - Quote
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC37-09-01 - CONCORD Resolution D/912/37 passes with unilateral support from all five empires.
YC44-06-03 - Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'EOM' casualty causation: est 78,944,293,285. Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.
YC104-12-09 - Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'SN' resurgence likelihood: 96.44% Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.
YC106-03-22 - Advanced materials technology saturation at threshold. Implement stage two technology surveillance.
YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.
YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.
YC111-03-11 - RT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALE
YC111-03-27 - Fullerene technology saturation at threshold. Implement stage three technology surveillance.
YC113-03-18 - Alert: Intercept of encrypted traffic [source Imperial-Internal] reference keywords 'analysis, implant, recovered, subject, body'. Inferred keywords: autopsy, Anoikis, sleeper, breakthrough, disease
YC114-03-20 - New research data collated. Source: Eram spider. Create new index.
YC117-02-09 - Cloaking system failure. Proximity alert. Initiate system shutdown.
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
314
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Posted - 2015.06.08 14:42:29 -
[34] - Quote
Specia1 K wrote:Gleaned Information wrote:YC113-03-18 - Alert: Intercept of encrypted traffic [source Imperial-Internal] reference keywords 'analysis, implant, recovered, subject, body'. Inferred keywords: autopsy, Anoikis, sleeper, breakthrough, disease
Seems the introduction of the new element brought by the sleepers did surprise even the Jove.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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Louanne Barros
Hole Violence
Whole Squid
25
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:39:11 -
[35] - Quote
Specia1 K wrote:Gleaned Information wrote:
YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.
YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.
It's fairly obvious, but just so that someone has said it;
YC111-02-06 was when the 'Band of Brothers' alliance collapsed, and 632866070 was their serial number in the public CONCORD alliance database.
YC106-11-17 was when CONCORD first recognized (and assigned numbers to) capsuleer alliances. 'Capsuleer cohort' seems synonymous with Alliance in these gleaned fragments.
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Daaaain
Seaworth Capital Expenditure
5
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Posted - 2015.06.09 00:40:32 -
[36] - Quote
Do location affects the message? |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
314
|
Posted - 2015.06.11 00:14:23 -
[37] - Quote
Louanne Barros wrote:Specia1 K wrote:Gleaned Information wrote:
YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.
YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.
It's fairly obvious, but just so that someone has said it; YC111-02-06 was when the 'Band of Brothers' alliance collapsed, and 632866070 was their serial number in the public CONCORD alliance database. YC106-11-17 was when CONCORD first recognized (and assigned numbers to) capsuleer alliances. 'Capsuleer cohort' seems synonymous with Alliance in these gleaned fragments.
Nice find, thx.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.06.23 21:28:34 -
[38] - Quote
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.
YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulence'?
1) There Are 5 Current Drifter W-holes... Maybe More. (But Virions ? Another Name For Drifters ?)
2) Seylin Incident |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1121
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Posted - 2015.06.24 02:49:27 -
[39] - Quote
This is wonderful stuff. I'd like to thank all the pilots that posted for sharing this data with us working to explore and understand what's happening.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
Circle-Of-Two
5349
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Posted - 2015.07.02 10:35:39 -
[40] - Quote
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.
Sorry to necro this topic, but historical records indicate June of YC 109 was about the time the Brothers of Freedom movement was fomenting unrest across the State. Given the tone of other Gleaned Information sheets, they could be treating the BoF as a pathology.
The actions and ideologies of the Brotherhood of Freedom were antecedent to Provist reformists two years later. The Jovians knew a lot, and said little - did they anticipate the Empyrean War? Clearly some things, like the Seylinn Incident, caught them by surprise.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
721
|
Posted - 2015.07.02 14:22:47 -
[41] - Quote
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC105-5-29 - So fragile, these minds. So fleeting, their crimes.
YC106-12-20 - Step One: Build a Better Ant.
YC107-09-15 - Step Two: Kick over The Ant Hill.
YC108-09-26 - Step Three: Assess.
YC110-06-10 - Step Four: Reiterate.
YC105-5-29 = Global Amnesty granted to all capsuleers after a change in security status standards.
"Better Ant" could refer to the rise of the capsuleers as their popularity and influence began to grow noticeably around this time.
"Kicking Over the Ant Hill" seems to be a reference to the changes in trade patterns and capsuleer presence from Yulai to various empire systems, causing a massive change the global market economy and a rise in international competition.
"Assess" likely refers to the construction of the first capsuleer avatar which occurred on this date and seems consistent with the theme of the rising of capsuleer power, influence and prominence.
"Reiterate" addresses a day in which the cluster seemingly dissolved into chaos with the attacks on Yulai (again, another movement AGAINST Yulai) and the invasion of the Federation by Tibus Heth, the arrival of soon-to-be Empress Jamyl Sarum, the destruction of the Elder Fleet by the "super-weapon" aboard Sarum's ship, the "disappearance" of Chamberlain Karsoth, the "assassination" and replacement of several Republic government officials, and (most importantly) the establishment of CEMWPA) which seemed to once again emphasize the importance, prominence and influence of capsuleers.
The consistent theme of progression in these "steps" is the rising prominence, influence, power and notoriety of capsuleers throughout the cluster and the decentralization of power.
EDIT: Another consistent theme is the shifting of power within the cluster and the seeming systemic change of influence as well as changes within governments and a dramatic shift in national agendas following these changes.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
Circle-Of-Two
5354
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Posted - 2015.07.02 18:37:12 -
[42] - Quote
These observatories have been around for centuries, and the absolute lower limit on the length of their observation is 232 years. The mention of the Azbel-Wuthrich experiment give us a firm date by which to compare YC with the dating system that the Jovians use, henceforth referred to as JC (Jovian Calendar). For reference, YC Year 117 correlates with JC Year 23353. This places the Yoiul Conference and thus the establishment of YC 0 on JC Year 23236.
Now, JC 23121 (232 years ago) is the absolute lowest possible bound on Jovian observation of the Gallente. However, if you give the relevant section a read...
Gleaned Information wrote:23121-09-11 - Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves.
... it becomes quite clear from the wording that the Jovians have been observing the Gallente for a while beforehand, as this is an "updated" status - not the first impression the Jovians had of them. It will also no doubt be obvious that JC 23121 coincides with 1702 AR (Age of Rouvenor) - the founding year of the Gallente Federation.
Gleaned Information wrote:23216-06-06 - In position at Diemnon Planetesimal. Collating system scans. Source of burst unidentified. Team dispatched. Alert still in effect.
JC 23216 is also an important year - it's both the year of the Battle of Vak'Atioth and, subsequently, the year of the Minmatar Rebellion. I've seen scattered references to Diemnon Planetismal in the history of the Minmatar Rebellion but I'm sure Matari and Amarrian historians know more about it than I do.
A few relevant dates:
Circa JC 8000 - Approximate time of the prophet Dano Gheinok, the oldest human being whose existence can reliably be demonstrated. This is a ballpark estimate based on information available in public Theology Council archives.
JC 16470 - Crowning of Amash-Akura as the first Amarrian Emperor.
JC 17453 - Foundation of the Raata Empire on Caldari Prime.
JC 21290 - Amarr Empire builds their first stargate.
JC 21714 - Doule dos Rouvenor II establishes the Age of Rouvenor calendar.
JC 22355 - First contact between Amarr Empire and the Minmatar Tribes - i.e. Day of Darkness.
JC 22517 - First contact between the Gallente and the Caldari.
JC 22794 - First contact between the Gallente and the Intaki.
JC 22821 - Sotiyo-Urbaata drive built.
JC 23121 - Founding of the Gallente Federation.
JC 23154 - Caldari State secedes from the Gallente Federation.
JC 23155 - Gallente-Caldari war begins.
JC 23216 - Battle of Vak'Atioth and the Minmatar Rebellion.
JC 23236 - Yoiul Conference, YC calendar begins.
JC 23353 - Current date.
I've got some commentary on the calendar in a bit.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
Circle-Of-Two
5369
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Posted - 2015.07.05 11:56:09 -
[43] - Quote
We're in JC 23353, which indicates that the Jovian Calendar dates back a very, very long time. We always suspected that they were an old civilization, but now we can be certain of it - they have (or at least had) access to historical records dating back thousands of years. But in particular, there's something remarkably interesting about the era around 15,000 years ago, or thereabouts - circa JC 8000.
Something very, very drastic happened to the atmosphere and soil tables of Caldari Prime at around this time. Since we discovered the science of terraforming, it was almost universally accepted that Caldari Prime was not originally habitable to humans (let's skip the "I wasn't aware it was habitable now!" jokes - we've heard them all before). Caldari Prime has almost no fossil record and a completely different geological history beyond 15,000 - 20,000 years ago; there's some margin for error in there, but it's clear that whatever happened happened very recently on a geological timescale. Soil samples from strata dated 50,000 years ago indicate there's no possible way the air could have been breathable back then, and atmospheres don't just suddenly change from icy, choking death to harsh, chilly but livable in the space of a couple of dozen milenia.
You see this pattern repeated all across New Eden - planets on the extreme edges of habitable zones, or planets way outside them that don't have fossil records or any suggestion of historical habitability beyond a few thousand years. There's also incredible genetic similarity between a few select species that we find throughout New Eden, but with the majority, there isn't.
What else happened round about 15,000 years ago? All of the ancient jump-gates were built very quickly in a 100-150 year period. Take that with the geological records and boom. We have a colonisation rush, just like we saw with the expansion of the Gallente, Caldari and Intaki a few hundred years ago.
What does this mean about the Jovian calendar? Well, only that it seems to predate the probable beginnings of human settlement in the New Eden cluster by roughly eight thousand years.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1345
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Posted - 2015.07.05 13:23:11 -
[44] - Quote
If the Jove have records from 15000 years ago doesn't that place those records just after the collapse of the EvE gate? If those records are from Jove observatories that would surely make the Jove the immediate descendents (if not simply renamed) Terrans? |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
Circle-Of-Two
5371
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Posted - 2015.07.05 13:44:01 -
[45] - Quote
There we pass even deeper into the realm of speculation and guesswork, I'm afraid.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Borascus
631
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Posted - 2015.07.05 18:00:47 -
[46] - Quote
As I understood it, the Yoiul conference also had a segment of discourse on the resolution of Eden Standard Time, with the Jove and Amarr having the most detailed records, including the 23xxx dating references as their contribution.
If you visit Mishi IV they also have a historical record indicating several comets impacted the planet and that it would not have been habitable, at all, beforehand. Though, they date these impacts to roughly 20,000 years ago - which would be ~3500 on the calendar used as supporting documents prior to the formation of the Yoiul Conference dating system.
The inhabitants of Mishi IV ascribe this process to terrforming. It does seem a bit early to be realistic though. |
Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
55
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Posted - 2015.07.16 00:15:19 -
[47] - Quote
Has there been any formal compilation of the gleaned information fragments?
Today I rummaged the data of a Jovian Observatory in one system, and obtained 33 fragments. There were, however, only 10 unique sets of records. Some are, as noted earlier, direct observations. Others are statements of consequence, more evaluative in nature, such as:
"Gleaned Information" wrote:
YC105-12-22 - Give them tools and they may evolve.
YC106-03-11 - Give them symbols and they may stagnate.
YC107-07-05 - ...recommend discarding current primary node for that model.
YC108-05-16 - They only notice small tragedies.
YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions.
YC110-12-25 - Give them what they want and it may destroy them.
YC111-03-10 - Self-interest continues to outweigh self-sacrifice.
YC112-03-04 - Does this duplicate portions of the Skarkon model?
The above was the data that had the highest frequency of occurrence. Does that hold for other observers as well? Is there a statistically valid difference in frequency in these data fragments?
I look forward to conducting further observations on other observatories. I might try a system in a different region, to see if there is different data available.
The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth.
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Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
55
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Posted - 2015.07.16 00:26:46 -
[48] - Quote
References to "disruption events" labelled "Apoptosis" and "Cathexis" are intriguing...
"Apoptosis" is the formal term for programmed cell death. Luckily we capsuleers have a way around that unfortunate eventuality. Obviously this is a metaphorical reference, but I wonder as to what...
According to Galnet reference materials, "cathexis" is defined as the process of investment of mental or emotional energy in a person, object, or idea.
So much to ponder now. I need to review the events associated with these dates (or thereabouts) to make inferences.
"Gleaned Information" wrote:YC105-5-29 - So fragile, these minds. So fleeting, their crimes.
YC106-12-20 - Step One: Build a Better Ant.
YC107-09-15 - Step Two: Kick over The Ant Hill.
YC108-09-26 - Step Three: Assess.
YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.
YC110-06-10 - Step Four: Reiterate.
YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulence'?
YC112-12-13 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Infiltration Disclosure. Subtype: Wedge Mirror. Actor: True Power. Targeted Interstice: CONCORD - Capsuleer Cohort. Motivation:...
YC113-07-07 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Resource Shift. Subtype: Need Further Data. Actor: Need Further Data. Targeted Interstice: 4 Potentials. 1)...
YC114-05-14 - They are not yet acknowledging the pattern.
YC115-03-22 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Apoptosis...
YC116-01-01 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Cathexis...
YC117-01-12 - They could not predict this?
YC111 - Capsuleer espionage detected.
YC108 - 'Titan' class vessel detected. Receiving data.
YC112 - Sansha activity registered.
YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth.
YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes."
YC105 - Location: Rethan. Class: Yacht. Maker: Viziam.
The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
5399
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:55:32 -
[49] - Quote
"Gleaned Information" wrote:YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes."
Wait a second, why does this quotation seem eerily familiar?
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
62
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Posted - 2015.07.16 06:46:42 -
[50] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:"Gleaned Information" wrote:YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes." Wait a second, why does this quotation seem eerily familiar?
I see what you did there. Or what you were implying you did, just moments before. 
The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
5408
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Posted - 2015.07.17 09:29:50 -
[51] - Quote
I'm not sure I follow you.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 09:43:51 -
[52] - Quote
Silverdaddy wrote:
YC107-07-05 - ...recommend discarding current primary node for that model.
This refers to the assassination of Doriam II. "Model" is the Amarr Empire. "Primary Node" is that Empire's Leader.
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James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:35:20 -
[53] - Quote
Here is the information on the Jovian Observations by our Research Cluster
PART 1
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC105-5-29 - So fragile, these minds. So fleeting, their crimes.
Analysis: Refers to DED new legislation against Piracy.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC106-12-20 - Step One: Build a Better Ant.
Refers to the defeat of the deep space starbase issues by CONCORD.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC107-09-15 - Step Two: Kick over The Ant Hill.
Refers o the attack on the Vitoc shipment bound to Amarr.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC108-09-26 - Step Three: Assess.
Refers to the theft of a Hel-Class Supercarrier by the Defiants.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.
Refers to the riots orchestrated by the Brothers of Freedom within the Calderi State. |
James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:36:07 -
[54] - Quote
PART 2:
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC110-06-10 - Step Four: Reiterate.
Refers to the invasion of Yulai by the Minmatar-Thukker fleet and its following events.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulenceGÇÖ?
Refers to the Sisters of Eve warning concerning the emergence of unstable wormholes.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC112-12-13 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Infiltration Disclosure. Subtype: Wedge Mirror. Actor: True Power. Targeted Interstice: CONCORD - Capsuleer Cohort. Motivation:GǪ
Refers to SanshaGÇÖs Nation success in opening a wormhole into Empire Space.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC113-07-07 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Resource Shift. Subtype: Need Further Data. Actor: Need Further Data. Targeted Interstice: 4 Potentials. 1)GǪ
Refers to Sansha KuvakeiGÇÖs extraction of core samples in the Yulai system.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC114-05-14 - They are not yet acknowledging the pattern.
Refers to the emergance of Clone Troopers. |
James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:36:53 -
[55] - Quote
PART 3:
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC115-03-22 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: ApoptosisGǪ
Refers to the Battle of Calder Prime.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC116-01-01 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: CathexisGǪ
Refers to discovery and investigation (called the GÇÿResearch Race of YC116GÇÖ) of Stellar Anomaly in UUA-F4/W477-P systems.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC117-01-12 - They could not predict this?
Refers to the battle of B-R5RB.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC111 - Capsuleer espionage detected.
Refers to the industrial espionage of HyasyodaGÇÖs Corporate Police Force within the Caldari State.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC108 - 'Titan' class vessel detected. Receiving data.
Refers to the devastation of Reschard V by an Avatar Class Titan. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
5409
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:37:26 -
[56] - Quote
Doriam II was assassinated YC 107-07-11. Assuming "discarding the primary node" refers to this (and not something else - even in death, the Jovians are nothing if not cryptic), then the murder took place only six days after the Jovians initially suggested it. That means they were able to orchestrate the death of the most powerful public figure in the cluster with less than a weak of notice and leave no trace or even suspicion of their involvement - well, beyond the normal paranoid suspicion that the Jovians were behind every major event in the cluster.
... although with these recent revelations, it's hard to shake the feeling that that suspicion might not have been as delusional as we initially believed...
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:37:39 -
[57] - Quote
PART 4:
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC112 - Sansha activity registered.
Refers to the increase of attacks on citizens of New Eden by SanshaGÇÖs Nation.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth.
Refers to the Battle of VakGÇÖAtioth.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes."
Refers to the last words spoken by Admiral Alexander Noir to his wife shortly before his death.
Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC105 - Location: Rethan. Class: Yacht. Maker: Viziam.
Refers to the discovery of a derelict yacht in the Rethan system by Bix Arrimida. |
Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
909
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:41:33 -
[58] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:"Gleaned Information" wrote:YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes." Wait a second, why does this quotation seem eerily familiar?
From my understanding, these were the supposed last words of the late Admiral Alexander Noir.
This is assuming you prescribe to the theory that Admiral Noir was dead before the Wandering Saint smashed into the Malkalen station and that the pilot of that vessel was not actually him but a replacement.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
5409
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:43:11 -
[59] - Quote
James Vayne wrote:Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth. Refers to the Battle of VakGÇÖAtioth.
The Battle of Vak'Atioth occured in YC -20. This entry must relate to something different.
James Vayne wrote:Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes." Refers to the last words spoken by Admiral Alexander Noir to his wife shortly before his death.
Wait, are you sure? What's your source for this?
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
909
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:51:55 -
[60] - Quote
Nothing concrete, Ixiris. That's why I say the "supposed" last words, the only sources I've seen referencing that phrase were news clips, conspiracy articles and hearsay.
It seems too convenient to pass it off as merely coincidence that the Jovian Observatories have this exact phrase recorded but I also can't think of any other significant point in history in which that phrase is even alluded to.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
3
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Posted - 2015.07.17 12:02:30 -
[61] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:James Vayne wrote:Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth. Refers to the Battle of VakGÇÖAtioth. The Battle of Vak'Atioth occured in YC -20. This entry must relate to something different.
I'm aware of when it occurred.. However, we are also certain it is only an indirect reference. This public information only details what the entries are related to, however indirectly. Deeper research indicates that it is more closely referenced to the Amarr/Minmatar relations in YC-107. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.17 12:08:50 -
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James Vayne wrote:Deeper research indicates that it is more closely referenced to the Amarr/Minmatar relations in YC-107.
Is it? Amarr/Minmatar relations were still healthy in 107. There was the Mabnen incident, which caused a minor slave rebellion. It could refer to that, I guess.
107 was also the year His Imperial Majesty Doriam II was murdered. There was also the Vance/Stats incident, which was about a brain wave control device...
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James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
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Posted - 2015.07.17 12:19:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:James Vayne wrote:Deeper research indicates that it is more closely referenced to the Amarr/Minmatar relations in YC-107. Is it? Amarr/Minmatar relations were still healthy in 107. There was the Mabnen incident, which caused a minor slave rebellion. It could refer to that, I guess. 107 was also the year His Imperial Majesty Doriam II was murdered. There was also the Vance/Stats incident, which was about a brain wave control device...
I may also, perhaps, be an oblique reference to the Jove-Amarr war. Some initiative the Jove conducted against the Amarr in YC-107. It's evident that Doriam II knew his life was in danger even before his assassination. Perhaps the Jove were behind it. It has always been our suspicion that the Jove had spies within each Empire, and recent findings only strengthen that suspicion. |
James Vayne
Section 9 SFU
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Further research from our Delta Research Cluster:
Gleaned Information Analysis:
[YC9-11-03 Now if you look to section eight of the report, you will see that the new system provides an unprecedented level of harmony. The new electrochemical system eliminates undesirable reactions and emotions in 34% of testers. With further development, I am certain we can truly make everyone happy.]
Refers to the refinement of synthetic (RS)-2-Benzylhydrylsulfinylethanehydroxamic Acid. Possibly a precursor to Quafe.
[YC37-08-23 Gamma Enclave recently available personnel: 44 cybernetics experts, 32 geneticists, 9 materials scientists, 6 sociologists. Awaiting kitz assignment.]
Unknown. Possibly to do with the defeat of Sansha's Nation.
[YC37-09-01 CONCORD Resolution D/912/37 passes with unilateral support from all five empires.]
Refers to the demand of surrender made to Sansha's Nation by CONCORD.
[YC44-06-03 Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'EOM' casualty causation: est 78,944,293,285. Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.]
Refers to the destruction of the Equilibrium of Mankind (An Amarrian Terrorist Organisation of that time) by Emperor Queron.
[YC104-12-09 Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'SN' resurgence likelihood: 96.44% Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.]
Refers to the rise in Sansha's Nation Activity.
[YC105-09-09 Kindness never goes unpunished.]
Refers to the award of the Aidonis Statue to Heideran.
[YC105-12-22 Give them tools and they may evolve.]
Refers to the beginning of the manufacture of Morphite.
[YC106-03-11 Give them symbols and they may stagnate.]
Refers to the Khumaak issue.
[YC106-03-22 Advanced materials technology saturation at threshold. Implement stage two technology surveillance.]
Possible reference to the Khanid Kingdom's use of transcranial microcontrollers on its slaves.
[YC107-05-30 GǪ of Caldari loyalist capsuleer cohorts, Caldari Independent Navy Reserve, [CAIN] verified termination of Dr Ullia Hnolku in the Magiko system, Minmatar Republic. Insorum prototype retr...]
Refers to the investigation into the disappearance of biochemist Ullia Hnolku.
[YC107-06-09 GǪ planet-wide emergency declared by Amarr Empire. Blood Raider fleet breaking orbital blockade. Chemical compound residue still circulating in high atmosphere, predicated near-total consumption rate among local slave population. Additional trace chemGǪ.]
Refers to the Mabnen Incident.
[YC108-04-10 Captain 1st Class Karishal Muritor of the Republic Fleet was today awarded Drupar's Sun, one of the most prestigious medals given by the Republic, at a Fleet awar...]
Refers to Karishal Muritor receiving the Drupar's Sun.
[YC108-05-16 They only notice small tragedies.]
Reference to failing to notice the battle between the Blood Raiders and The Order of St. Tetrimon.
[YC108-06-07 Multiple jump drive spikes detected in Pator, Heimatar, Minmatar Republic
Origin: Republic Fleet anchorage 12
Command key override: Muritor, Karishal 1st Class Captain
CONCORD authorisation key: Not accounted, unauthorised deployment. CONCORD control warning flag issued to Republic Fleet
Ship designations: Alfhild, Magni, Modi, Verkana, Gordd, Hjalin, Svertan, TorshvernGǪ..]
Refers to a CONCORD report concerning stolen ships.
[YC108-12-17 GǪ lockdown in effect. Sosala local defences reacting. Amarr Fleet mobilisation hindered by multiple attacks. Indicating complete destruction of Battlestation facility by Minmatar loyalist capsuleer cohorts. Flagged for close monitoring...]
Refers to the destruction of an Amarr battle station by the New Defiants
[YC109-01-12 They let names define their perceptions.]
Refers to the response by Maleatu Shakor over the Bleak Lands incident.
[YC109-02-02 Critical Termination Notice - Capsuleer: Karishal Muritor. Defiants faction. Capsule breach indicated in Auga, orbital track of tenth planet. Unable to locate clone activation --- working --- Unable to locate clone activation --- extending network search --- Unable to locGǪ.]
Refers to the assassination of Karishal Muritor.
[YC109-02-09 ...hra'Khan, a group with long-standing yet historically shaky ties to the Republic, declared Prime Minister Midular their "number one enemy," calling for a 1 ISK bounty on her head, the "value representing her worth to the MinmatGǪ]
Reference to The Bloody Hands of Matar placing a 1 ISK bounty on Karin Midular.
[YC109-02-12 GǪ mass rally in Pator. Republic fleet task force warping in --- identified, command ships, fleet capsuleer --- monitoring --- designation change Admiral Kanth Filmir resignation confGǪ.]
Refers to the arrival of the 7th Fleet in the Bleak Lands.
We will, of course, release new information as it becomes available from or clusters. |
Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
1804
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Posted - 2015.07.18 08:19:52 -
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Tychanus Bain wrote:[ Jovian Observatory Data wrote:YC117-01-12 - They could not predict this? Refers to the battle of B-R5RB. That battle took place on January 27th to 28th of YC116
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-bloodbath-of-b-r5rb/
YC117-01-12 points to something almost a year later, like
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/circadian-seekers-ded-advisory/
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