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Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:50:47 -
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Hi everyone, Im relatively a new player but have experience in Exploration and mining. Im getting to a stage where im finding myself bored out my brains, I mine 5 hours a day making around 60mil then do some exploration making around 200mill every couple of days depending how lucky I am, the point is im do these activities and straight away im finding I just haven't got the energy to do this, I have recently brought a stratios and looking into do some WH Camping at relic sites. Its not all about making isk, its about having fun, its something thats missing for me.
What makes you guys to give you that motivation in doing different things from your own main activities? |

Ovv Topik
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
706
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:16:19 -
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Are you set on keeping yourself to yourself and playing solo? Because if so, your options are severely limited. The EvE game mechanics are really little more than a facilitator for social interaction in innumerable variations. But the mechanics on their own are pretty empty and repetitive.
You dont even have to join a corp btw, although that is the obvious choice.
What do you like the sound of trying and getting good at?
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
359
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:18:42 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote: I mine 5 hours a day I don't understand how you can be bored with eve  |

Syrilian
Ascending Angels
70
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:26:37 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:Hi everyone, Im relatively a new player but have experience in Exploration and mining. Im getting to a stage where im finding myself bored out my brains, I mine 5 hours a day making around 60mil then do some exploration making around 200mill every couple of days depending how lucky I am, the point is im do these activities and straight away im finding I just haven't got the energy to do this, I have recently brought a stratios and looking into do some WH Camping at relic sites. Its not all about making isk, its about having fun, its something thats missing for me.
What makes you guys to give you that motivation in doing different things from your own main activities?
Do the complete opposite: that worked for me. I was doing exploration and was getting bored with it, so I decided to try blowing other people up and I am finding that fun now though usually I am the one getting blown up lol.
My point is try doing something crazy, something off the wall for you. I came into the game thinking I would mostly do noncombat stuff but tried combat on a whim and found it fun. |

Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:28:12 -
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I haven't had much luck with corporations tbh, but finding a small gang or a partner in crime would most probably benefit me. My goals are fairly simple and thats having a POS and maybe looking to move in WH space in the long run when i get more experienced and training. My Short term goals are making enough isk for plex and manufacturing T1 ships on the side, i need more excitement, Null-Sec Exploration isn't cutting it for me, although i have had some great escapes and even a few deaths which is all good. |

Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:29:48 -
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That's why I got the stratios to blow people up lol im away for a few days but when I get back im going to try it out |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9512
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:43:20 -
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Get out of that npc Corp immediately and find some people doing what you're interested in.
Talk to them, try it, repeat till you find a group and/or activity you like and enjoy
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Praxis Ginimic
Best Kept Frozen.
877
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:51:21 -
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Brave has a W-space division that takes in and trains newbros. I think they are called Dropbears? |

Ovv Topik
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
706
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:51:57 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:That's why I got the stratios to blow people up lol im away for a few days but when I get back im going to try it out Good for you. 'Blowing people up' is social interaction at it's purist.
Although there are cheaper ships to lose than the Strat. Best to start off in the T1 hulls until your not losing every fight.
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
278
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:04:13 -
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My recommendation is to put the stratios off as a medium to long term plan. Your short term plan should be to take your collected isk from your hours of eye wrenching boredom and make it fuel your fun.
Go buy a stack of T1 cruisers, frigates and destroyers and throw caution to the wind while you suicide into everything that moves.
Advice: spend a 5 hour session getting stuff staged close to your playground if you have the ISK. Player run courier services are relatively cheap and you will find your enjoyment is easier when you only spend a minute or two getting into another disposable ship rather than hiking all the way back to a trade hub everytime your t1-fit ship blows up.
Whenever I get bored, I build a new staging system somewhere new and spend a week or so getting things into position and learning about local players in my timezone and habits. Then I burn through a ton of acquired isk in a rather appalling short amount of time taking every fight and coming down hard on all the bait. This is the closest I've come to the 'fire-and-forget, instant gratification' in Eve you can find in other games.
The catch is that to truly give no 'cares' about dying, your logistics needs to be in place. Nothing puts a wet blanket to your fun like having to do a supply run right when you find some eager players willing to engage. |
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Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:19:12 -
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L'ouris wrote:My recommendation is to put the stratios off as a medium to long term plan. Your short term plan should be to take your collected isk from your hours of eye wrenching boredom and make it fuel your fun.
Go buy a stack of T1 cruisers, frigates and destroyers and throw caution to the wind while you suicide into everything that moves.
Advice: spend a 5 hour session getting stuff staged close to your playground if you have the ISK. Player run courier services are relatively cheap and you will find your enjoyment is easier when you only spend a minute or two getting into another disposable ship rather than hiking all the way back to a trade hub everytime your t1-fit ship blows up.
Whenever I get bored, I build a new staging system somewhere new and spend a week or so getting things into position and learning about local players in my timezone and habits. Then I burn through a ton of acquired isk in a rather appalling short amount of time taking every fight and coming down hard on all the bait. This is the closest I've come to the 'fire-and-forget, instant gratification' in Eve you can find in other games.
The catch is that to truly give no 'cares' about dying, your logistics needs to be in place. Nothing puts a wet blanket to your fun like having to do a supply run right when you find some eager players willing to engage. Definitely something I will look into, im not scared or concerned about dying, I just want to blow some isk having fun as you pointed out and having fun while learning to pvp.
I do like the aspect of ganking in a cloaky ship, as my skills are leaned towardsthat aspect of pvp for now, although basic skills for fitting pvp frigate wouldn't be problem, I will keep my options open and see what happens I guess, but I will be making my moves into something fun soon enough |

L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
278
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:22:40 -
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Reason I didn't specifically mention the cloak hunting bit:
You ever sit in a tree stand for hours waiting for a good hunt? hours of boredom with a few minutes of action.
Your problem is your bored: ergo I would avoid cloak camping until your looking to try something new again and don't mind hanging out for a while waiting for your deer to show up. Not that it isn't viable or fun, just not as quick a cure for the doldrums you described in your first post :) |

Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:24:05 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Get out of that npc Corp immediately and find some people doing what you're interested in.
Talk to them, try it, repeat till you find a group and/or activity you like and enjoy Intresting, but 5mill in SP isn't going to really cut it for your corporation. |

Aimee Arbosa
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
925
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:26:08 -
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Socialize a little OP, even if it turns out you don't want to be part of a corp you'll be amazed what simply having a circle of friends you chat to or share channels with each day will do. Entertainment, inspiration, education, ideas and inevitably .. dragging each other around on adventures and stuff.
Like many players my earliest days were spent mining. I'd often chat to folks in local or join channels I heard about and you just make friends and contacts over time. Don't let the general anti-socialness of a vast majority of EVE players you encounter discourage you. I was eventually dragged to lowsec by a friend, then into PVP by another, then later into wormholes (and now even null by another, urrhhg thx Jester). Haven't looked back since. 
Praxis Ginimic wrote:Brave has a W-space division that takes in and trains newbros. I think they are called Dropbears? EVE University also have a wormhole campus.
And aside from the "big corps" that are newbie friendly I'm sure if you poke around the recruiting forum you'll find a ton of smaller corporations too in wormholes that are very accepting of newbros.
Good luck!
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Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:38:22 -
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Aimee Arbosa wrote:Socialize a little OP, even if it turns out you don't want to be part of a corp you'll be amazed what simply having a circle of friends you chat to or share channels with each day will do. Entertainment, inspiration, education, ideas and inevitably .. dragging each other around on adventures and stuff. Like many players my earliest days were spent mining. I'd often chat to folks in local or join channels I heard about and you just make friends and contacts over time. Don't let the general anti-socialness of a vast majority of EVE players you encounter discourage you. I was eventually dragged to lowsec by a friend, then into PVP by another, then later into wormholes (and now even null by another, urrhhg thx Jester). Haven't looked back since.  Praxis Ginimic wrote:Brave has a W-space division that takes in and trains newbros. I think they are called Dropbears? EVE University also have a wormhole campus. And aside from the "big corps" that are newbie friendly I'm sure if you poke around the recruiting forum you'll find a ton of smaller corporations too in wormholes that are very accepting of newbros. Good luck! cool thanks, some really interesting things I can do to improve the more social side for my eve, I do need contacts and build friendships, I do need to get put there more rather than being solo and stuck in a rut, I will do my research and joining channels ect. Hopefully I will find my place in eve alot easier :) |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9514
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:42:05 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Get out of that npc Corp immediately and find some people doing what you're interested in.
Talk to them, try it, repeat till you find a group and/or activity you like and enjoy Intresting, but 5mill in SP isn't going to really cut it for your corporation. That's actually my forum signature 
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Aimee Arbosa
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
929
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:50:04 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:cool thanks, some really interesting things I can do to improve the more social side for my eve, I do need contacts and build friendships, I do need to get put there more rather than being solo and stuck in a rut, I will do my research and joining channels ect. Hopefully I will find my place in eve alot easier :) You'll be surprised. For a game that appears so anti-social and harsh on the surface you'll actually find some of the most amazing people here if you scratch the surface a little.
Though on the topic of 'solo' I also believe there's nothing wrong with doing your own thing really. I spent 3+ years in my own corps doing my own thing, but the thing is I had friends by my side who shared the experiences too. We just weren't in the same corp. Though joining one is certainly a great way to accelerate things, or help you if you have trouble meeting folks on your own.
I may be Aimee from nullsec but I highly recommend wormholes too! Best part of the game in my opinion... 
Ralph's sig wrote:Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you. Raptor Jesus have mercy. 
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9515
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:45:39 -
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Aimee Arbosa wrote:Ralph's sig wrote:Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you. Raptor Jesus have mercy. 

Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1021
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:05:52 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:My Short term goals are making enough isk for plex
Don't do that. It sounds cool when you first hear of the possibility, but its the fasterest way to turn yourself in to a wageslave.
A year or two down the line, when you have three+ accounts and are raking in a billion a week, sure, plex an account or two. But right now, when most of what you are making a month is scraped in to barely affording a single plex, there is no quicker way to drive yourself in to hating the game.
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Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:21:18 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Lissandra Icebornx wrote:My Short term goals are making enough isk for plex Don't do that. It sounds cool when you first hear of the possibility, but its the fasterest way to turn yourself in to a wageslave. A year or two down the line, when you have three+ accounts and are raking in a billion a week, sure, plex an account or two. But right now, when most of what you are making a month is scraped in to barely affording a single plex, there is no quicker way to drive yourself in to hating the game. Fully agree with all of that, I think im putting myself through torture by dribbling at the computer screen looking at rocks, subscribing isn't a problem, Im putting more pressure on myself trying to make enough isk, as stated, its time to start having fun and finding new friends to enjoy eve. |
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
1059
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:33:06 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:Interesting, but 5mill in SP isn't going to really cut it for your corporation. This is one of the most common misconceptions by new players. SP is way less important than attitude. Sure, there are some corps which are not very new-player friendly, but this is mainly because they don't want to teach and not because of SP. There are many more corps who would love to teach an eager newbro and don't care what your SP is. It's like applying for a job in real life; all the job applications have a ton of "desired skills" listed and very rarely do you meet ALL the requirements. But you apply for the job anyway, give a great interview, and show you are a fast learner. They'll hire you, just as many corps will recruit you well below their SP limit if your attitude is right.
I joined a wormhole corp at about 2M SP with almost no practical knowledge of the game. Within a few days I participated in a big fight and made a huge difference by jamming out the enemy falcon with my little blackbird. (Story here - you can tell I knew very little about EVE at the time but I had a blast anyway). Within a few months I became the main scout for our corporation and participated in every facet of its activities.
I'm not special. I was just eager and willing to learn. Joining a corporation with experienced players and interacting with them will speed up your learning process exponentially, and as a bonus is way more fun! Participating with others will also force you to push the boundaries of your comfort zone and try out new things, opening a ton of doors for the future, even if you go on to play primarily solo.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
364
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:12:42 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote: Intresting, but 5mill in SP isn't going to really cut it for your corporation.
Most corps don't care if you have a 100m SP or none at all. They only are interested if you fit into them to have fun together. If they are a good corp they even further you so you get the hang of eve and how to do what you want to do.
PS: http://dredditisrecruiting.com/  |

Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:18:09 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:Hi everyone, Im relatively a new player but have experience in Exploration and mining. Im getting to a stage where im finding myself bored out my brains, I mine 5 hours a day making around 60mil then do some exploration making around 200mill every couple of days depending how lucky I am, the point is im do these activities and straight away im finding I just haven't got the energy to do this, I have recently brought a stratios and looking into do some WH Camping at relic sites. Its not all about making isk, its about having fun, its something thats missing for me.
What makes you guys to give you that motivation in doing different things from your own main activities?
This is, IMO, the most difficult aspect of EVE - connecting with other players. Solo activities in EVE, while they bring in some ISK, are simply dreadfully boring. Interaction with other players is the only source of fun in the game. But if you join the game on your own, like you did, and like I did, it's very difficult to find the right people you can connect with. I offer a few possibilities:
1) Jump into low and null with a cheap frigate and try solo PvP. It's not a social activity, but since you're going up against a human it can be a lot more interesting than mining a rock. It can be frustrating too, however, as you're unlikely to start off with a good win/loss ratio. But you might enjoy the challenge.
2) Join an NPSI fleet. There are several around. No corp-joining commitment is needed, just raise your hand to join the fleet, get on comms, and follow along. It's a very easy way to socially interact with other players in a cooperative setting. And the activities of such fleets are very exciting, too.
3) Join a newbie friendly corp. Brave Newbies, Karma Fleet and Pandemic Horde come to mind. I don't know too much about how these operate, though.
4) RvB is billed as a constant PvP fest with arranged fights of, of course, Red vs Blue groups. But I don't know how accessible they are for newbies, nor how social they are.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:55:59 -
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Eli was first, but I second ... join the NPSI channels RvB Ganked, Spectre Fleet, Bombers Bar and Redemption Road and x-up for a couple of different fleets/FCs to find out if it's your thing.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Kintaro Kitsuji
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:11:09 -
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Lissandra Icebornx wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Get out of that npc Corp immediately and find some people doing what you're interested in.
Talk to them, try it, repeat till you find a group and/or activity you like and enjoy Intresting, but 5mill in SP isn't going to really cut it for your corporation.
Bullshit. A good corp doesn't give a **** about your SP, they care if you fit in. They care if you want to play. They care if you want to learn. |

Darius Onok
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:57:51 -
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Lissandra,
Hit me up in game some time. I'm in the same boat you are and looking for some people to do some fun things with. A buddy of mind are talking to a corporation that doesn't mind low SP people and seem to be a cool bunch of people. Even if you aren't interested in that I would love to do some runs with you and get blown up a bit just to have someone else to have fun with in the game. I'm hitting a point where exploration isn't doing it for me anymore and I can't stand mining.
I just finished training mining barge up a bit and I can't even bring myself to build a barge because I hate the idea of mining so much. :-P
Anyone long story short, I could use some newbie friends too to make the game more interesting. |

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
523
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:42:06 -
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You sound like a PvPer. get some cheap ships and PvP. You could: Try faction warfare Try RvB Try one of the large null sec alliances that has a new player corp Try Eve Uni Try to find a smaller null sec corp that takes new players. buy 50 T1 frigs fit them cheap and commit to loosing them in one weekend Talk to people that blow you up when loosing those 50 frigs until you find a good corp.
Most corps that have a skill point minimum honestly are to keep out spys or reduce corp theft than because they care about your skill points. Having a skill point minimum sets an expense cost that must be reached for experience players looking to create alts and act like new players. I only mention this so that you understand that most corps / players in eve don't actually care about your skill points. It's just the safety concerns that your lack of opens them up to. |

Lissandra Icebornx
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:39:32 -
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Darius Onok wrote:Lissandra,
Hit me up in game some time. I'm in the same boat you are and looking for some people to do some fun things with. A buddy of mind are talking to a corporation that doesn't mind low SP people and seem to be a cool bunch of people. Even if you aren't interested in that I would love to do some runs with you and get blown up a bit just to have someone else to have fun with in the game. I'm hitting a point where exploration isn't doing it for me anymore and I can't stand mining.
I just finished training mining barge up a bit and I can't even bring myself to build a barge because I hate the idea of mining so much. :-P
Anyone long story short, I could use some newbie friends too to make the game more interesting. Sounds good, I will add you at the weekend when im able to get on, glad im not the only one out there, and thank you for everyone for all the feedback, I really appreciate it.
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Rammel Kas
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
5
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:16:02 -
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Hi there,
I'm in one of Brave Collective's active industrial, mining, PI, Explorer, pvp, etc. etc. corps. And we're in Fountain (null sec) at the moment setting up a new home around a NPC null base. We literately do just about everything in the game on a daily basis. If you want to find out more simply join the "Bovril NEW" channel in game.
We also have quite a few other corporations and alliances in HERO in general who do their own mining, exploration and industry.
Someone mentioned the Wormhole Corporations. We have three main ones at the moment. Dropbears Anonymous, Desolate Order and a corp they run between the two of them specifically geared to getting really new people into wormholes from the C1-C3 side. Dropbears also run their Stahp fleets for alliance members into C5's.
Most of HERO posts on the Brave Reddit.
The Imperium and PL also have Karmafleet and Pandemic Horde who cater to new people joining. Not sure what PH do for posting but Karmafleet also have a Reddit page you can ask around at. From what I've heard PL are more focused on PVP though. Karmafleet allows you into the other focus groups inside the Imperium coalition (they were called Goons or CFC before).
Eve University have campuses in High, Low, Null and WH space. More formal culture. We had regular set-piece battles with them earlier this year to develop FC's. Their wiki page is widely recognized as being superior to the CCP one. Although some of the original material hasn't been updated of late and the Eve Survival pages seem to have dropped.
I would not in all honesty suggest High Sec mining anymore. Definitely not in a corp. And probably not even for long in any NPC corp. In null or spooky space you at least know for sure the bad guys are there with hostile intent. None of this war deck nonsense and deliberate trolling. You can organize a fleet and shoot them down then carry on. |
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