No one is going to listen to the request of a Nation loyalist.

And this is our space, not theirs.

We can talk about no-fire policies as soon as your master ends the incursions.

What little communication that has occurred, has happened between the Drifters and people far above our pay-grade. Either they've communicated to Kuvakei and he doesn't think you need to know, or he's not high enough on the pecking order to warrant communication either. Oh I suppose your message could be his attempt at trying to be clever, but subtlety hasn't really been a part of the Nation's programming.

I think you may be in right in that things point to much of HiSec having been their home first. I don't see a future in which any government shrugs and moves out of their own volition.

A man walks in to a cave to escape a fierce blizzard outside. The sun has gone and he cannot see. Blindly, he gropes deeper into the cave to escape the cruel winds that bite at his skin. Upon making his way in he discovers a large patch of warm moss and lays down to rest.

And then it moves. It is not moss, but the fur of a bear. The man jumps up and protests this.

"I came in to this cave to escape the wind! I have no where else to go! I did not see you when I came in so I claimed this cave!"

However, the bear was there first and did not care what the newcomer claimed. More importantly, it was a bear. So it made a fine coat to protect against the cold, and food to sustain the man when he continued his journey.

...It still doesn't make you Amarr. You're not going to be winning any poplularity contests with the rest of the loyalists any time soon.

The alternate ending.

I humbly request all aggression towards Drifter assets cease. All efforts from this point forward should be attempts to communicate.

If Drifter assets are intercepting this communication, I request contact to begin a dialogue. I reside within Yulai.

To the Nations of New Eden, I say this: Drifter assets predate ours. This is their space. We must learn to co-exist.

We observe. We wait. We prepare. As one.

It's too late for a cease fire. People kept provoking them, and now they're coming for you.

Being in the position I am, I'm certainly more interested in the technology than the history. Kill 'em for all I care, just let my engineers get their hands on the debris from time to time.

For what it's worth, there's no sense calling on capsuleers to do anything - we are a wild bunch and all have our own agendas. Show me a cause worth fighting for, or a threat sufficiently frightening, and I'll show you a formidable army of united pilots. As it stands, the Drifters more or less keep to themselves and therefore aren't perceived as the threat they really are yet. Surely over time they will become more aggressive, at which point they will begin showing their true colors, thus allowing capsuleers to mobilize, united.

I think the drifters understand us perfectly...I think that they just dont care. I dont know if they are here to infiltrate, invade, or just replace us...I dont suppose it matters. They have no respect for the sovereignty of any nation or corporation and their attack on Yulai was a clear terrorist act. They had multiple channels to request the body of one of their own back, hell they could have probably bought it back for less effort than it took to attack Yulai. They could have made multiple attempts to communicate, even without vocal chords. They dont communicate because they elect not to. They act the way they do to inspire fear or terror. Well I think they are messing with the wrong people. I have a couple billion isk id be willing to dump in the pot of getting these drifters wiped off the galactic map. Not much, but perhaps it might inspire others to chip in too. Better yet if someone can capture a drifter ship in one piece we can reverse engineer *their* technology, weapons and ships included and then we would be on an even technological footing, with greater numbers.

At this time, and despite the great power the Tyrannos wield, I am also in opposition of engaging and destroying them unprovokedly.

We have no indications of their true goal: all we know at this time is that they are coming from somewhere deep in Anoikis, that they are performing Entosis to recover information from the Jove Observatories (just as we have found we are able to do with the Entosis Links), and that they will ruthlessly cut down anyone who stands in their way.

I personally believe the Caroline's Star superluminal event is a result of their action, and that they are in opposition to the Jove Directorate; however, I will not make an enemy of something as capable and powerful as the Tyrannos before first understanding what their end goal is.

A "Shoot first, ask questions later" policy tends to go quite badly for those who have that attitude against a superior adversary.

Whatever their goal is, its not good for us. That much is clear. That alone should be enough to oppose them. Capsuleers have taken down their ships before, they arent invincible and they dont have our numbers. I say strike while we have the numerical advantage. During our attacks we will discover what they are after. Right now they are focusing on salvaging jove tech, each day gaining more and more. I say stop them before we cant.

In addition...

If the Tyrannos lay claim to any area of New Eden, looking back to their seeming inheritance of "the legacy of some of the most ancient Jove", I can only assume it will be the Heaven constellation of Curse, and surrounding areas.

At one time, the Jove were rooted in that area; if the Tyrannos inherit an ancient Jove legacy, I am confident that an area near Heaven will be their future home in New Eden, if anywhere.

I humbly request all aggression towards Drifter assets cease. All efforts from this point forward should be attempts to communicate.

What do you think Drifters message is when they open fire at certain triggers?

Violence is a form of communication.

They communicate in ways other than violence as well.

It is simple, if they trespass and break laws in Amarr sovereign space, they should be treated as pirates and dealt with accordingly. Why should they receive some exempt status?

I don't understand. Are you advocating that we should stop scanning them as well, because they scan us too?

Are you also advocating that they should continue to use violence to find vessels for communication (corpses)?

Are you advocating that we should kill off our own to that they might be able to communicate?

Do you believe their current form doesn't allow them to understand simple binary coded messages?

It is simple, if they trespass and break laws in Amarr sovereign space, they should be treated as pirates and dealt with accordingly. Why should they receive some exempt status?

...but will see if I can get the attacks stopped.

Unless they start talking, which I doubt, I believe it will be impossible at this point to achieve peace. And with the Antikythera Elements being harvested now? There's no way to turn back the clock. Capsuleers have found a new resource to harvest. And like all good locusts, they will swarm and consume and give no heed to what they feast on. All they know is to acquire.

Sorry. The communications protocols redirected this broadcast to the wrong thread.

No one is going to listen to the request of a Nation loyalist.


And this is our space, not theirs. If they wish to communicate then they can be the ones to initiate it, after leaving our space. Judging from past experience with these drifters, seekers, sleepers, and so on, communication is not something they will be doing anytime soon.

Before taking on drifter threat the Republic, the Federation and the Nation must be defeated.

That is not the topic up for discussion here. If you do not have anything constructive to say on this particular matter, please abstain from commenting.

Thank you in advance for your compliance.