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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.08 09:02:00 -
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I know that the aggro timer works both ways.
But isn't it only logical that you sholdn't get an aggro timer if you don't shoot back. I was just wondering --- --- ---
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Necromancer D
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.11.08 09:06:00 -
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how would that work exactly?
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.08 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 08/11/2006 11:11:56 you don't get an aggro timer if u don't shoot back. if u don't activate any modules on the person firing on u u have no aggro what u have is a pvp timer for 15 minutes. the only effect this has is that if u log off in space u will not vanish for 15 minutes, and u can fire on the person/ppl that aggro'd on u.
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf Edited by: DarkElf on 08/11/2006 11:11:56 you don't get an aggro timer if u don't shoot back. if u don't activate any modules on the person firing on u u have no aggro what u have is a pvp timer for 15 minutes. the only effect this has is that if u log off in space u will not vanish for 15 minutes, and u can fire on the person/ppl that aggro'd on u.
DE
Well, after an incident that got me wondering. I was deep in 0.0 in an expensive ship, i got shot at just before i had to go but i didn't shoot back. I warped to safespot and logged off.
Next time i log in i'm in my cloning bay. Is this the way it's supposed to be? --- --- --- Signature Removed. Mail [email protected] for any questions. - Eshtir
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Arkani Gera
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kindakrof
Well, after an incident that got me wondering. I was deep in 0.0 in an expensive ship, i got shot at just before i had to go but i didn't shoot back. I warped to safespot and logged off.
Next time i log in i'm in my cloning bay. Is this the way it's supposed to be?
yes, as you were fired upon you became subject to the pvp-timer, 15 minutes of your ship staying in space since the last aggression from you or by you, you should have simply waited your timer out and then logged to prevent this from happening...
the timer is visible as a yellow (or red if you are criminally flagged from something you did) and counts down the remaining time, if you hover your pointer over the counter, you will see exactly who it is that caused you to be flagged.
if you stole from a can, thereby "can-flagging" yourself, you will see the person and corporations to whom you are flagged, can-flagging sometimes bugs regarding gang members, and you won't see by the timer if the one you stole the can from was in a gang that you are now flagged to.
if your timer only shows npc entities, then you are not under the pvp timer and your ship will vanish in the normal 3(?) minutes after you log...
The corp is mother, the corp is father.
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Arkani Gera
Originally by: Kindakrof
Well, after an incident that got me wondering. I was deep in 0.0 in an expensive ship, i got shot at just before i had to go but i didn't shoot back. I warped to safespot and logged off.
Next time i log in i'm in my cloning bay. Is this the way it's supposed to be?
yes, as you were fired upon you became subject to the pvp-timer, 15 minutes of your ship staying in space since the last aggression from you or by you, you should have simply waited your timer out and then logged to prevent this from happening...
the timer is visible as a yellow (or red if you are criminally flagged from something you did) and counts down the remaining time, if you hover your pointer over the counter, you will see exactly who it is that caused you to be flagged.
if you stole from a can, thereby "can-flagging" yourself, you will see the person and corporations to whom you are flagged, can-flagging sometimes bugs regarding gang members, and you won't see by the timer if the one you stole the can from was in a gang that you are now flagged to.
if your timer only shows npc entities, then you are not under the pvp timer and your ship will vanish in the normal 3(?) minutes after you log...
If i would have waited for those 15 minutes i would have missed the bus to an important event i attended to. Also, there was no yellow timer in my corner. --- --- ---
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.09 08:32:00 -
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There must have been a timer. The second that someone aggresses you a yellow 15 minutes timer will appear in the top left corner.
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf There must have been a timer. The second that someone aggresses you a yellow 15 minutes timer will appear in the top left corner.
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WAS NOT! --- --- ---
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:16:00 -
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if i must log in space here is what i do. I start the account up again and log on a alt from the same account. this makes sure my main disappears. don't use it to avoid combat. but sense sometimes i cant see if i have a agrro timer i feel it is a okay method to do.
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Arkani Gera
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.11.09 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
are you sure this wasn't a bug? as ppl have been killed waaaaay after the pvp timer has ran out due to bugs before...
The corp is mother, the corp is father.
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Beef Hardslab
AlphaHivE
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Posted - 2006.11.09 21:48:00 -
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Are you sure aggro timers show up on screen while in 0.0? Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen an aggro timer since I came out to 0.0. 
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.09 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 22:02:25
Originally by: Arkani Gera
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
are you sure this wasn't a bug? as ppl have been killed waaaaay after the pvp timer has ran out due to bugs before...
Pretty sure as everyone I told in gang said it was a known 'feature'
Maybe worth some further testing though.....
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marcouk2
Gallente Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.09 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Beef Hardslab Are you sure aggro timers show up on screen while in 0.0? Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen an aggro timer since I came out to 0.0. 
The aggro time doesn't display in 0.0 but any sort of hostile action towards you or initiated by you will cause the 15min 'pvp' timer to start.
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
I'm afraid that's not right tiller. it is 15 minutes i can assure you. i experienced this many times when trying to probe logged targets. i can start my stopwatch on my pc and to the dot after 15 mins if my prober hasn't turned up they vanish.
what happenend to you must have been a bug
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Sabine Borgia
Amarr Antares Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:20:00 -
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you tooked wrong way and got pwn in i-uu live with it get a new wolf and a new snake set and try stay away from the sectors with 1 way out only.
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Sabine Borgia
Amarr Antares Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Arkani Gera
Originally by: Kindakrof
Well, after an incident that got me wondering. I was deep in 0.0 in an expensive ship, i got shot at just before i had to go but i didn't shoot back. I warped to safespot and logged off.
Next time i log in i'm in my cloning bay. Is this the way it's supposed to be?
yes, as you were fired upon you became subject to the pvp-timer, 15 minutes of your ship staying in space since the last aggression from you or by you, you should have simply waited your timer out and then logged to prevent this from happening...
the timer is visible as a yellow (or red if you are criminally flagged from something you did) and counts down the remaining time, if you hover your pointer over the counter, you will see exactly who it is that caused you to be flagged.
if you stole from a can, thereby "can-flagging" yourself, you will see the person and corporations to whom you are flagged, can-flagging sometimes bugs regarding gang members, and you won't see by the timer if the one you stole the can from was in a gang that you are now flagged to.
if your timer only shows npc entities, then you are not under the pvp timer and your ship will vanish in the normal 3(?) minutes after you log...
well wait it off wasnt that easy i-uu dont got many places to sit it out even whe its looked down and several guys prob for you.
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.10 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sabine Borgia you tooked wrong way and got pwn in i-uu live with it get a new wolf and a new snake set and try stay away from the sectors with 1 way out only.
OMG ITS AN ALT SMACKIN! RUUUUN!! Anyway, getting pwned is a whole other thing wich you have yet to learn about. I'm not really ****ed off at your lame gang of tempest +5 support to kill an offline wolf. I'm more concerned about the timer and people who just have to go. I know logging off is lame but it sort of comes down on people having these occasions.
Btw. post with your main, biiaaatch --- --- ---
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FoRGyL
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
I'm afraid that's not right tiller. it is 15 minutes i can assure you. i experienced this many times when trying to probe logged targets. i can start my stopwatch on my pc and to the dot after 15 mins if my prober hasn't turned up they vanish.
what happenend to you must have been a bug
DE
Seem like Tiller can have a CN raven back O_o
Keep me thumbs for ya!
Keep up the good work m8! 
//FoRGyL ********************************************************* Pay or don't!
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.10 13:53:00 -
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LOL Ganking sucks eh Kind haha
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician LOL Ganking sucks eh Kind haha
Read all posts plz. --- --- ---
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: FoRGyL
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 09/11/2006 15:06:02
AFAIK you have to wait 30mins from a crim flag if your gonna log in space or your ship will stay in game. I guess crim flagging is different.
I found this out when I logged off for dinner in CNR and got probed. Logged in to witness the explosion....
I'm afraid that's not right tiller. it is 15 minutes i can assure you. i experienced this many times when trying to probe logged targets. i can start my stopwatch on my pc and to the dot after 15 mins if my prober hasn't turned up they vanish.
what happenend to you must have been a bug
DE
Seem like Tiller can have a CN raven back O_o
Keep me thumbs for ya!
Keep up the good work m8! 
//FoRGyL
Great, I've put a petition in but I doubt CCP will help a pirate. They never do :(
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