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Max Singularity
House Singularity
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:47:49 -
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Open Letter to CONCORD
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To: Consolidated Cooperation and Relations Command (CONCORD)
From: The High-Archdiocese Offices Pope of New Eden
Direct: His Holiness Maximilian Singularity VI (MS6)
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Under my authority as the recognized Harbinger of Faith, I call forth a direct and transparent question to the Consolidated Cooperation and Releations Command regarding incidents of late.
The foundation for the query is thusly with these following articlesGǪ
Article 1
With recent activity by Drifter forces where Capsuleers of all four core empires have been attacked, Concord ships have responded to such incidents and have done nothing against the Drifter forces while Capsuleers have abided by the rules of the Youili Convention and CONCORD rules of engagement. CONCORD assets watched in clear view while Capsuleer Corpses were harvested from open space by the Drifters.
Article 2
Our databases show CONCORD sanctioned recognition of GÇÿcorporationID: 1000274, Drifters Member CorporationGÇÖ as an official entry in the rolls of records of Corporations and Alliances.
Article 3
CONCORD has conducted an analysis of the Drifter Battleship and upon thy own admission the analysis was hampered by advanced hull and shielding.
Article 4
CONCORD is dependent upon Jove technology for the purpose of conducting its primary mission.
Query:
Based upon the articles of foundation detailed aboveGǪ what is CONCORDS role and relationship to the Drifters?
Respectfully submitted per my rightGǪ
/s/ Max Singularity
Reference Database Information as follows:
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GǪ CONCORD is doing its job very well and there have been no major cases of abused power. But many fear that this may change one day.
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Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Thea Isotalo
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
40
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:55:34 -
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I don't think that this is going to work.
BRCE: Mission Statement!
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
982
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:15:15 -
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So the Jove Directorate helps establish CONCORD and then you're all "Oh mah GAWD, CONCORD knows stuff about Jovians?! Conspiracy!"
Am I getting this right? |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1483
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:28:35 -
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Despite my opposition to your remarks about Her Imperial Majesty and the Empire, Mr. Singularity, I agree with you on this matter. CONCORD as an institution is supposed to answer to its member states, but it has frequently failed to do this in today's time.
The secret Jove observatories are a violation of the conventions. Was CONCORD aware of their existence?
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Maxemillian Caldera
SoleaCorp
1
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:51:05 -
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Any sort of opposing sentiments to CONCORD will only fall on deaf ears, their agenda is as clean as an asteroid belt, we will probably not get justice for these Drifter abductions until CONCORD gets what they want and decide to declare war on them. |
Foley Aberas Jones
Huogikku Corporation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
256
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:54:01 -
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Welp...Given we got some conspiracy theories going on...
Guess this is the perfect time to promite Huogikku corp's newest product...
Red pill! Its like Blue pills only instead of making you forgot you learn the truths of the universe!
Side effects may include...
-Urges to call others shepels
-Urges to wear trenchcoats and shades
-Hallucinations of sharply dressed CONCORD agents
-Making theories
-Vomiting |
Max Singularity
House Singularity
133
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Posted - 2015.05.08 05:10:41 -
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Foley Aberas Jones wrote:Welp...Given we got some conspiracy theories going on...
Guess this is the perfect time to promite Huogikku corp's newest product...
Red pill! Its like Blue pills only instead of making you forgot you learn the truths of the universe!
Side effects may include...
-Urges to call others shepels
-Urges to wear trenchcoats and shades
-Hallucinations of sharply dressed CONCORD agents
-Making theories
-Vomiting
Well that explains my throwing up, but does not explain why Windmills look like Giants to me. hmmmm
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
6950
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Posted - 2015.05.08 05:18:42 -
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With all due respect, until we definitively establish that the Vigilant Tyrannos are in fact not a Directorate faction, then CONCORD's hands are tied.
Maker, even though they interrupted a broadcast, that's still nothing at all on the Matari assault on the CONCORD Bureau station, the wreckage of which we can still see in Yulai. The Republic hasn't been declared persona non grata, so I doubt we'll see anything so profound in the case of the Drifters.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Quattras Peione
SUPREME MATHEMATICS
A Band Apart.
91
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Posted - 2015.05.08 05:59:59 -
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Max Singularity, Sixth of Your Name,
Your concern is noted, though it is also noted that you were not nearly so vocal in said concens over the last several months, when those of us actually interested in finding a solution to this issue were performing analyses and theorycrafting.
Regarding your stated issues with CONCORD's handling of the matter:
The articles of the Yulai convention govern conduct amongst capsuleers. The convention offers no pretense of protection for any other than the baseline citizens of New Eden, against whom no aggressive acts have been committed.
The integration of corp identifier 1000274 as a recognized corporate entity is necessary to establish nomenclature and distribute information. This does not make CONCORD accountable for their actions, any more than their recognition of Guristas or the Angel Cartel or Goonswarm should be seen as an endorsement.
I understand your ambition to unravel the organization from the bottom up, but you're tugging at the wrong thread. |
Quattras Peione
SUPREME MATHEMATICS
A Band Apart.
91
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Posted - 2015.05.08 06:18:02 -
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Edit: double post |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
3574
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Posted - 2015.05.08 06:23:33 -
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CONCORD. White Blood Cells of Empire. Their protection is vital against the sickness that is extinction.
Is it possible that the Drifters do not trigger their autonomic response? The Drifters are only just biomatter after all, as alive as the hulls of our ships. Inside these dead husks flicker the faint fire of dreamers from the Virtual. I wonder if they register on CONCORD's "all seeing" cognitive infrastructure as aggressors.
If an asteroid sheared through your hull, would CONCORD offer a response? I think no.
If a walking corpse assaulted you in the spaces between the stars, would CONCORD awaken in their barracks and pile into their frigates to save you? Our White Blood Cells are sick, and the Disease is not a conventional one.
Call me Joe.
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Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
79
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Posted - 2015.05.08 06:41:50 -
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"Recognized Harbinger of Faith?" Are you still talking? If so why? Does your own voice sound that lovely to thine ears?
Daemun of Khanid
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam
64
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Posted - 2015.05.08 09:05:19 -
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Quattras Peione wrote:Max Singularity, Sixth of Your Name,
Your concern is noted, though it is also noted that you were not nearly so vocal in said concens over the last several months, when those of us actually interested in finding a solution to this issue were performing analyses and theorycrafting.
Regarding your stated issues with CONCORD's handling of the matter:
The articles of the Yulai convention govern conduct amongst capsuleers. The convention offers no pretense of protection for any other than the baseline citizens of New Eden, against whom no aggressive acts have been committed.
The integration of corp identifier 1000274 as a recognized corporate entity is necessary to establish nomenclature and distribute information. This does not make CONCORD accountable for their actions, any more than their recognition of Guristas or the Angel Cartel or - wait for it - Goonswarm should be seen as an endorsement.
I understand your ambition to unravel the organization from the bottom up, but you're tugging at the wrong thread.
Unfortunately, he's right, we are openly being attacked and CONCORD does nothing, I am already attempting to open diplomatic channels with them, and any support on that is appreciated.
So far, nothing.
Dr. Frenjo Borkstar,
Project Lead for Arek'Jaalan's Project Salus.
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
982
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Posted - 2015.05.08 09:14:15 -
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Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Unfortunately, he's right, we are openly being attacked and CONCORD does nothing...
It's almost as if you made this bed and now they are letting you sleep in it. |
Quattras Peione
SUPREME MATHEMATICS
A Band Apart.
91
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:14:56 -
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Dr. Borkstar,
Yes, capsuleers are being attacked. However CONCORD is under no obligation to protect us from any threats besides one another, especially considering the effective immortality we all share.
I will concede that there is a significant potential threat to civilian populations posed here, but that falls under the purview of national navies, who seem to be mobilizing - albeit at their characteristically glacial pace.
Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione
No, I'm not that kind of doctor.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
958
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:36:49 -
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Why risking baseliner lives of DED crews when capsuleers seem to be the only ones to be under attack, and also seem to perform decently in those vanguard skirmishes ? It also makes sense strategically not to show all your cards at once, unless a serious emergency emerges., which is not the case here. Again, the Drifters have only attacked, or defended against, capsuleers.
Involving baseling combat ships would also paint them as targets, and incite Drifters to actually start hostile actions against baseliners, and civilians, which sounds like a dangerous gambit.
DED forces are already on high alert, and may be mobilizing - you do not hear about that since they strength precisely lies in their power projection ability. CONCORD agents may, or may not, be already gathering intelligence.
Their silence is actually strategically, the better move for the moment.
CONCORD just happens to be the usual convenient scapegoat, when the true intergalactic political failures are the Empires themselves. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1137
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:57:55 -
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Have you considered that CONCORD may well be avoiding direct conflict so as to not give the Drifters any indication of their strengths and weaknesses? They are already adapting to capsuleer attacks and weapons, ,if they do the same with CONCORD ships and equipment how then could they decisively strike back in the event of a full invasion?
Secondly they are attacking capsuleers who approach their stations and structures. How do we know that they don't consider themselves at war with all of us considering that many capsuleers have shown open unprovoked aggression.
As far as I'm aware the Drifters have yet to attack any Empire structures and civilians. If they do I will be drawn into the conflict but as yet they have not bothered myself or any who I would consider innocent. |
Soldarius
Naliao Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1269
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Posted - 2015.05.08 14:34:00 -
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Clones are merely a biological shell for our active consciousness. So long as they are in plentiful supply, we as capsuleers are still effectively immortal. Therefore I don't give 2 isk whether CONCORD is a sock-puppet for the Jove, who seem rather uninterested in us or anyone else as of late.
tl;dr: So long and thanks for all the fish.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
89
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Posted - 2015.05.08 17:11:32 -
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I think given today's news from the SCOPE, Mr. Singularity's questions bear a little more weight.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Max Singularity
House Singularity
136
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Posted - 2015.05.08 17:22:31 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:I think given today's news from the SCOPE, Mr. Singularity's questions bear a little more weight.
Looks like 'our' questions made the The Scope scroll bar at 1:12. Nice to see 'we' actually have a voice.
The gathering storm is gathering.
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
696
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Posted - 2015.05.08 17:36:23 -
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Max Singularity wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:I think given today's news from the SCOPE, Mr. Singularity's questions bear a little more weight.
Looks like 'our' questions made the The Scope scroll bar at 1:12. Nice to see 'we' actually have a voice. The gathering storm is gathering.
You clearly have a voice, sir.
... after seeing the recent footage, though, it respectfully seems like some of your questions are pretty easy to answer.
Why does CONCORD record the Drifters as a corporate entity? ... probably so they, and we, can track their doings through existing systems.
Why does CONCORD not move against the Drifters? ... probably because of the old joke about what a thousand kilo feral ape does.
... that is, respectfully, "Anything it wants." |
Max Singularity
House Singularity
137
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Posted - 2015.05.08 19:28:07 -
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Uh... hmmm....
I'm not sure this is an official response from CONCORD.
I know I've seen his face before.
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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HTC NecoSino
No Vacancies
215
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Posted - 2015.05.08 20:00:05 -
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As the writer of the Wormhole Blue Croissant Mandate, I for one welcome our wormhole-dwelling cousins of Bob and look forward to the progress they are sure to shower upon us. |
Brent Vann
Lagoon Co.
0
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Posted - 2015.05.08 20:53:06 -
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So, what will this mean for us?
just generally asking.
Are we going to be able to Resist and repel? Let alone combat the drifters, with or without CONCORD support.
Also if CONCORD haven't received what they want, will they still sit and wait, or will they stand with us to protect the space they patrol?
I'm not fully sure what we should be looking forward to much less if it is going to be hopeful or even eventful!
This waiting thing sucks but at lest there is little time to continue to speculate and possibly prepare...
for events of grand scale or an event as open as dark matter.
what i do know as a single player with my small Corp, im willing to fight for New Eden if so the Drifters do move against Capsulers, the civilian mass for there reclaim objective, or the general known space of New Eden for there objective to gain resources and territory to expand there ways.
Im just hopeing that when i/we show up for this, were all in together to say hello and o7 as we face the Drifters for the first time, until they have stopped or Drifted else were.
looking forward to the future of the New, New Eden |
Maxemillian Caldera
SoleaCorp
2
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Posted - 2015.05.08 20:57:40 -
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Assuming they have hostile intentions I don't know we'd be able to take them on with or without CONCORD, the Drifters have shown they have more than enough firepower to destroy anything that comes their way.
Also, after checking various areas around the Molden Heath area I found no Drifter activity, so I was unable to watch any's movements. |
Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel
The Kadeshi
1409
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Posted - 2015.05.08 21:50:17 -
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Maxemillian Caldera wrote:Assuming they have hostile intentions I don't know we'd be able to take them on with or without CONCORD, the Drifters have shown they have more than enough firepower to destroy anything that comes their way.
Also, after checking various areas around the Molden Heath area I found no Drifter activity, so I was unable to watch any's movements.
Come to Domain. More than enough Drifters around the area to watch, bump (hilarious, actually) and shoot.
As for the query: Laughable, to say it mildly. Insignificant capsuleers can mind their own business and tear themselves apart. CONCORD neither owes them any explanation or further details nor have capsuleers any right to demand access secret intelligence or reasoning behind CONCORD decisions.
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Tarek Raimo
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
22
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Posted - 2015.05.09 02:37:45 -
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Interesting how you as the figurehead of an empire (or was that Imperium) known for its destructive tendencies think that you can petition an authority which your "subjects" regularly challenged and thwarted in its efforts.
Also, while you were assembling fleets to wage a war against the Amarr Empire you consider to be ruled by an illegitimate empress, others have already been busy with developing strategies against the Drifters. The independent capsuleers of New Eden have long lived, fought and died without the help of CONCORD or any other major power, and we will continue to do so. |
Max Singularity
House Singularity
140
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Posted - 2015.05.09 04:14:26 -
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Tarek Raimo wrote:Interesting how you as the figurehead of an empire (or was that Imperium) known for its destructive tendencies think that you can petition an authority which your "subjects" regularly challenged and thwarted in its efforts.
Also, while you were assembling fleets to wage a war against the Amarr Empire you consider to be ruled by an illegitimate empress, others have already been busy with developing strategies against the Drifters. The independent capsuleers of New Eden have long lived, fought and died without the help of CONCORD or any other major power, and we will continue to do so.
When one is sick, it is best to treat the root cause, not just the sniffles. I have my reasons to #blameSarum for all of this.
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel
The Kadeshi
1409
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Posted - 2015.05.09 05:43:42 -
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Out of curiosity, since CCP seems to pay some attention to this thread: Are there going to be real and meaningful way for capsuleers to support the Imperial Navy and the heir families (or any other Empire faction for that matter) in their fight against the Drifters once whatever starts that you couldn't keep a secrete on Sisi? This has been bothering me since the Prophecy trailer. I have no intent to let capsuleers advance further in that regard or with the now arising drifter crisis. Or can I just watch from the sideline as my favorite faction gets torn apart? (this outlook is not me underestimating the Amarr Empire capabilities, but rather being realistic about CCP's recent actions and plot twists against the Empire.)
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Reeves Todako
Caldari Corn Paste
91
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Posted - 2015.05.09 06:12:42 -
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Are you kidding? I want nothing to do with this thread! The DED orders several shipments of our 'Morning over Myur' brand of Corn Paste every few months. Great customers. |
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