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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:12:00 -
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To flesh out this new section a little, I wonder if you folks noticed an important question that could conveniently be answered during the championship:
Who pwns, Pirate or Anti-Pirate?
**** I'll have to root for Farmige now where I was really going for the Machiator.
Disclaimer: Quoting the results from the duel as anything but flamebait will be laughed at. --
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:49:00 -
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farjung is not strictly an anti-pirate, he did pwn npcers...
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.10 13:49:00 -
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ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
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Brieve
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Posted - 2006.11.10 15:34:00 -
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Far is antipirate when it suits him, as much as he's pirate when it needs to get fun 
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Silver Star Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
u shud think of every tempest/mach pilot cuz we die hard to other equal skill charactors  --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine |

Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:58:00 -
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Ahw, for a proper slug-fest you can't go all book on me and use super precise tongue-breaker monikers like Former-Pirate-Now-Triple-Crowned-Moviestar-And-Director-Gone-Antipirate-When-Not-Mercenaring (actually, that could work now that you mention it - still needs a bit of work).
I bet DaMiGe isn't just a pirate, either.
And sorry Chode, I guess the really uber Tempestists/Machariellists just like to keep a low profile, and that probably means they won't step into any ring. --
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goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.11.10 20:44:00 -
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I'd like to see this duel,but farjung i think would have it due to his DPS compared to damiges,but it will probably go to hull nonetheless
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.11 10:07:00 -
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Mega > Tempest Vindi > Mach
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.11 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Mega > Tempest Vindi > Mach
the end.
Not the end at all - its like saying ranis > claw - not always. Depends on range if a blasterthron is forced to use null vs ac temp using barrage at like 10km or so the thron is toast - the dps output of barrage vs null at 10km, its higher for barrage taking tracking and transversal into account.
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Trevedian
Amarr KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.11 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Mega > Tempest Vindi > Mach
the end.
Wrong...
Fit 2 webbers on the Machariel or Tempest, and 800mm's will destroy the Vindi or Mega...
I'd own either of them in my Rattlesnake like cake..
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.12 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.12 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Vindi > Mach
I guess we're off topic now, but if you fly a mach without domination web/disruptor you're just wrong, and if you have that you should be able to handle a vindi :s
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.12 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
haha didten really see that this made me sound like a*****.. didten mean it in that way... eve is just growing and new names is coming op.. and old ones are fadeing out..
it was more meant like "Who is this damiage and why do i want to sex him ?"
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kessah
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.12 02:44:00 -
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lawl.
Yeh i was just bored and having watched the vid's of them both just thought hell have a dual.
tbh farjung video was alot solo, Tho id like to see a matari ship kill gallente one.
i know alot of matari spec'ed pilots but it just looked as tho damige had more of that omg i love matari sorta thing.
Clearly its a split vote here. Id rather just sit back and watch rather than vote *collect the loot afterward kekeke* -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate 2
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.11.12 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
blasphemy!
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:11:00 -
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Quote: its like saying ranis > claw - not always.
Always. If I'm the one flying the ranis, that is. You're welcome to try, though. тттттттттттт
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Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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FraXy
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Quote: its like saying ranis > claw - not always.
Always. If I'm the one flying the ranis, that is. You're welcome to try, though.
Yes ur highness. Let us all fall over and self-destruct for the king of Interceptor pilots.
This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.12 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Mega > Tempest Vindi > Mach
the end.
That's if the tempest pilot is dumb enough to play the megathorns, game.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.12 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
haha didten really see that this made me sound like a*****.. didten mean it in that way... eve is just growing and new names is coming op.. and old ones are fadeing out..
it was more meant like "Who is this damiage and why do i want to sex him ?"
Well tbh, I've heard more of damige than I've heard of you chode, even though he doesn't post everywhere.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.12 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Sadist
Quote: its like saying ranis > claw - not always.
Always. If I'm the one flying the ranis, that is. You're welcome to try, though.
Yes ur highness. Let us all fall over and self-destruct for the king of Interceptor pilots.
If he flys it like I do the claw won't win.
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Jenstruant Fogg
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:14:00 -
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Personally, I'd prefer to see
Ryan Routine or Fedaykin Naib v Farjung
Damige's vids are nice but he always seems to fly in gangs and I just don't think he'd stand up to either of the tempest pilots above
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FraXy
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.13 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Sadist
Quote: its like saying ranis > claw - not always.
Always. If I'm the one flying the ranis, that is. You're welcome to try, though.
Yes ur highness. Let us all fall over and self-destruct for the king of Interceptor pilots.
If he flys it like I do the claw won't win.
I doubt a claw can beat taranis close-range, but that was not what the comment was about. 
This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
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Mang0o
Caldari Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2006.11.13 15:49:00 -
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who is daminge? i know who farjung is.. so i think he wins..
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Keot
Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:47:00 -
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Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:53:00 -
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damige is the sex.
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Dark' Lord
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Keot Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
Daily stop being a little ***** and use your main
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Keot
Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dark' Lord
Originally by: Keot Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
Daily stop being a little ***** and use your main
when i find a gtc 
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.13 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
haha didten really see that this made me sound like a*****.. didten mean it in that way... eve is just growing and new names is coming op.. and old ones are fadeing out..
it was more meant like "Who is this damiage and why do i want to sex him ?"
Well tbh, I've heard more of damige than I've heard of you chode, even though he doesn't post everywhere.
hehe ofc.. eve = big IRC client
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Hydraxian
Gallente Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 19:01:00 -
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Simply put..... Damige is the BOSS!!!!! btw.... we need someone to run a pool on this if it goes through  100m on Damige for me (im poor )
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kessah
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Keot Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
Why type this smack talk?
Play nice or please leave. -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate 2
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Keot
Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Keot Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
Why type this smack talk?
Play nice or please leave.
opinion isnt smacktalk.
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Sir Woderwick
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Posted - 2006.11.13 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Keot
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Keot Farjung actually has pilotting skills and know hows to fly gallente. Damige is a minmatar fanboy who doesent really know his ships
Why type this smack talk?
Play nice or please leave.
opinion isnt smacktalk.
If your opinion is worth anything, why not post with your main, afraid he will kill you for it? 
Dailyhazard = teh smacktalking nub 
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 00:34:00 -
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...I dont know what all the fuss about farjung is tbh, sure hes a really good pvper, but no more so than most the other good pvpers out there its just the fitting allowed him to do amazing things, and im not trying to take anything away from him, cos he had the balls to use the ship, but it was a fitting worth quite a fair bit more than a dreadnaught... so if you do it on isk value, in everyone of the engagements in his video his ship was worth WAY more than anything he engaged put together.
But like i said im not trying to take anything away from him.
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.14 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Darknesss ...I dont know what all the fuss about farjung is tbh
I've flown w/ Far for quite a while and I'll tell you what the fuss is.
There are people who have the ships, the money, and the talent, they work hard, gain experience, and earn their great reputation. Then there are people to whom the game just seem to come naturally: they seem to not have to work so hard and just rack up kills with seeming ease. Either because the sun, stars, and moons just naturally align for them, or nobody sees the time spent on the test server, people like this are successful without the effort. Some people call it "luck", but to people of the latter category, they seem to get lucky every so often that it's uncanny. Farjung is of that category.
I've been playing this game for three years almost exclusively as a PvP pilot and Far made me personally feel like I had a long, long way to go to reach his level. This is not fanboy-ism, just an opinion from someone that knows and has flown with him in an attempt to answer your question.
DaMIGe could be the same way I don't know - just trying to answer your question about Far.
LM
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.14 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Mistress
Originally by: Darknesss ...I dont know what all the fuss about farjung is tbh
I've flown w/ Far for quite a while and I'll tell you what the fuss is.
There are people who have the ships, the money, and the talent, they work hard, gain experience, and earn their great reputation. Then there are people to whom the game just seem to come naturally: they seem to not have to work so hard and just rack up kills with seeming ease. Either because the sun, stars, and moons just naturally align for them, or nobody sees the time spent on the test server, people like this are successful without the effort. Some people call it "luck", but to people of the latter category, they seem to get lucky every so often that it's uncanny. Farjung is of that category.
I've been playing this game for three years almost exclusively as a PvP pilot and Far made me personally feel like I had a long, long way to go to reach his level. This is not fanboy-ism, just an opinion from someone that knows and has flown with him in an attempt to answer your question.
DaMIGe could be the same way I don't know - just trying to answer your question about Far.
BUT... u have to admit these kind of posts are funny.
When the actual fight takes place very little of it is down to actual skill.. skill points and fitting is the main thing, u arnt actually piloting a ship. ur just orbitting, klicking, pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper.
would this far guy u all worship make a 50mill blaster pilot from celes apoc look stupid in a 1v1 with standard fittings just because u think hes skillfull?... i think not.
A high % of fights in eve are down to luck in fittings and luck in not being ganked. the guys that have most kills usually have most loses its just the way it is.
hes good at picking his fights is that skill?, i dont think so, but maybe thats more common sence.
anyways not dissing him, i liked his vid, but do that with standard tec 2 stuff?, no chance. respect for using it it though.
d solo.
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo When the actual fight takes place very little of it is down to actual skill.. skill points and fitting is the main thing, u arnt actually piloting a ship. ur just orbitting, klicking, pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper.
I'm surprised to see such a veteran character say this.
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but PvP to me is much more than just "orbitting[sic], klicking[sic], pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper." There are cap, ammo, range, transversal, and drone considerations. There is also analyzing the opponent: is he tanking? NOS? Missiles or Turrets? Web? Drones? Every decision effects the potential outcome of the battle, and mindless "orbit, f1, f2, f3..." until one or the other blows up... well... is a rather dull way to fight and I'd suggest earns more losses than necessary.
My 2 isk, make change as necessary. LM
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Mistress
Originally by: darth solo When the actual fight takes place very little of it is down to actual skill.. skill points and fitting is the main thing, u arnt actually piloting a ship. ur just orbitting, klicking, pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper.
I'm surprised to see such a veteran character say this.
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but PvP to me is much more than just "orbitting[sic], klicking[sic], pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper." There are cap, ammo, range, transversal, and drone considerations. There is also analyzing the opponent: is he tanking? NOS? Missiles or Turrets? Web? Drones? Every decision effects the potential outcome of the battle, and mindless "orbit, f1, f2, f3..." until one or the other blows up... well... is a rather dull way to fight and I'd suggest earns more losses than necessary.
My 2 isk, make change as necessary.
All that about nos web and drones is standard stuff too.
Its the setup and strategy that will win it. If they both fit standard setups it could go either way. But if one of them thinks outside the box for a seconds, chances are they will win.
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Mistress
Originally by: darth solo When the actual fight takes place very little of it is down to actual skill.. skill points and fitting is the main thing, u arnt actually piloting a ship. ur just orbitting, klicking, pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper.
I'm surprised to see such a veteran character say this.
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but PvP to me is much more than just "orbitting[sic], klicking[sic], pretty standard stuff to every eve pvper." There are cap, ammo, range, transversal, and drone considerations. There is also analyzing the opponent: is he tanking? NOS? Missiles or Turrets? Web? Drones? Every decision effects the potential outcome of the battle, and mindless "orbit, f1, f2, f3..." until one or the other blows up... well... is a rather dull way to fight and I'd suggest earns more losses than necessary.
My 2 isk, make change as necessary.
PvP is more than just clicking buttons you have to pay close attention to every detail, as you said, transversal, range etc. But farjung's skills are no more than any other good pvper. I have been flying a megathron for just over 2 and a half years now, and i fly a megathron identical to how he does, and i know others that fly like that too, because its the best way to fly a megathron, also his choice in targets was spot on and i would have done the same in his position, his videos give a good idea on his capabilities and it is not my intention to come across big headed. Im just saying that yes his skills are top notch, but so are many others... give me a ship like that shove me in identical situations and the outcome would be the same.
But as i said im not trying to take anything away from him, one can only admire the fact he would go into such risky engagements in a ship of that value.
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operated
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.11.23 20:48:00 -
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I fought chode before and he sure aint a noob , i fought damige before but was him and hes ganksqaud so cant say if he rocks 1 on 1, though saw his vids and hes great in gangs . I fought farjung before to and he did well to almost lost my brutix to his thorax but that was long time ago .
Point beiing loads of same ppl on forums ;its not cause you post a lot or not that your great pilot or bad pilot . Theres forumwar and evewar .Some ppl do both , some do one side .
To answer the 1 on 1 , both know there **** , would be close fight .
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.24 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Chode Rizoum ehm is damiage that great ?? never heard of him...
he aint exacttly what i think when i say diehard tempest/mach pilot 
Whoring the forums doesn't make you a great pilot either 
haha didten really see that this made me sound like a*****.. didten mean it in that way... eve is just growing and new names is coming op.. and old ones are fadeing out..
it was more meant like "Who is this damiage and why do i want to sex him ?"
Well tbh, I've heard more of damige than I've heard of you chode, even though he doesn't post everywhere.
hehe ofc.. eve = big IRC client
haha made me giggle, thats very true. 
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Cardassius
Caldari Nun Amun Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.27 14:53:00 -
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Guys it's very simple, if you know what your enemy flies&uses you win..
Fitting is everything. Skill/Implants will give you an extra edge.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.27 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: operated I fought chode before and he sure aint a noob , i fought damige before but was him and hes ganksqaud so cant say if he rocks 1 on 1, though saw his vids and hes great in gangs . I fought farjung before to and he did well to almost lost my brutix to his thorax but that was long time ago .
Point beiing loads of same ppl on forums ;its not cause you post a lot or not that your great pilot or bad pilot . Theres forumwar and evewar .Some ppl do both , some do one side .
To answer the 1 on 1 , both know there **** , would be close fight .
nothing like a good old tempest vs tempest fight 
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