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Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 13:51:00 - [1] Originally by: liquidism nice read man. and good op. kudos. kill all hobbits IF ASCN were to fall then where are the challenges left to BoB in EVE, other than perhaps D2, so give it 6 months time and it will be your turn next and then I will be laughing too (from my spot in Rens running missions for Brutor Tribe ). Seriously though if ASCN ever falls I think that it will be it for me and eve. I do not like BoB and would never dream of working for "the man" as a slave corp/alliance. On various accounts I have fought against most groups in EVE and from my experiences BoB as they are, are in a different league. Yes there are very good smaller corps like Outbreak, Omnisicient Order and CELES etc. and every group has its good players but when taken as a group the larger alliances are simply no comparison. I think they spoil their reputation with the use of lame stuff like TS spies (nice job by the way getting one of our gangs to warp to a BoB POS last night with shouts over TS, we were laughing about it afterwards (it was either that or cry)) but if they don't care about their reputation compared to getting the 'win' then "so what" I guess. In some ways the end of this war will be a good time to bow out from the game after what will be almost 3 years for me, fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and if it at the end you lost, well so be it, there if always a winner and a loser. If you win, then again, what is going to compare to that? Once someone has "won EVE", then it will be time to move on I feel. If its BoB then I could wait for them to fall apart (possibly) or move to pirates of the carribean or whatever (if its true) but then that would be a pretty hollow victory. If we cant take them out now at their peak then there is no beating them in the game - other alliances like ASCN and D2 and others are all going to be second tier alliances - and thats fine for some I guess but not for me, I would rather try my hand at something new. So gl all and cya on the battlefield BoB, I still have 130 Ares to get through even if u have pwnd all my fitted BS
Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 13:59:00 - [2] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: Ascend Alt I think they spoil their reputation with the use of lame stuff like TS spies (nice job by the way getting one of our gangs to warp to a BoB POS last night with shouts over TS, we were laughing about it afterwards (it was either that or cry)) but if they don't care about their reputation compared to getting the 'win' then "so what" I guess. Not that I expect you to believe me, but that honestly wasn't us, that was one of your own prized members desperately trying to get you to go and support your dying dreads. Then why did the FC get mails from guys in DICE thanking him for listening to them and not "the confused FCs" and warping to the BoB pos?
Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: Ascend Alt Then why did the FC get mails from guys in DICE thanking him for listening to them and not "the confused FCs" and warping to the BoB pos? That's utter rubbish I'm afraid, your FC screwed up and is trying to cover his arse. You can accuse us all you like of being "lame" and so forth but we don't need nor intend to stoop to such levels, ever. I dont know about last night but I have been on TS before when it has had BoB spies on it shouting conflicting orders, so....
Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Zasra Um.. you guys got slaughtered, and that's putting it lightly. How is that a good fight? Good read though, probably the turning point in the one-sided war that makes PS an all bob (and bob slave corp) zone. I just read this stuff and look at the awful killboard stats and wonder how so many people can be so bad? They aren't, it only takes a couple of bad decisions to lead to these sort of situations when fighting someone very good at fleet pvp. Individually there are a fair few decent pvpers in ASCN, its just there are a lot who are not so good or experienced and that can lead to mistakes and those mistakes lead to these kinds of situations. Poor intell is often a source of issues. Someone thinking a scout said "4 or 5 BoB" in the next system instead of the actual "45 BoB" comes to mind....
Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:13:00 - [5] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/11/2006 15:04:20 Originally by: Ascend Alt Poor intell is often a source of issues. Someone thinking a scout said "4 or 5 BoB" in the next system instead of the actual "45 BoB" comes to mind.... LMAO... can you imagine it... ASCN SCOUT : There are fourty five BoB in the next system guys, watch out ASCN FC : Thx scout 1, k guys we have four to five BoB in the next system... we are gonna jump through... "JUMP". ... comeon..... its like the Irish joke.. "tree fellers wanted".. aww thats a shame paddy ain't it.. there's only two of us... If thats the kind of stuff that happens on a regular basis in ASCN fleets... book your one way tickets to empire now, before the christmas rush. shrugs its a game mate, we have a laugh about it and have no pretences as to our god like abilities within it. Its a pity we cannot all achieve the awesome things within the game that Black Spot have, which is what exactly? Anyone can stay small and take potshots at others.
Ascend Alt Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:39:00 - [6] Edited by: Ascend Alt on 10/11/2006 17:40:53 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Ascend Alt shrugs its a game mate, we have a laugh about it and have no pretences as to our god like abilities within it. Its a pity we cannot all achieve the awesome things within the game that Black Spot have, which is what exactly? Anyone can stay small and take potshots at others. .. doesn't seem like you are laughing much to me.. infact reading between the lines you are pretty ****ed off that I joked at ASCN's expense.... which is perfectly understandable.. but pls drop the "poor ASCN" argument. You are the biggest alliance in the game.. act like it. edit: the other bit was from another unrelated post. I can assure you we were laughing on TS (slighlty hysterically) at the sheer ridiculousness of what happened last night. As for acting like a large alliance, well we are, i.e. being a bit disorganized and containing a huge range of players of varying abilities and experience. Being big is not the same as being good, and away from the forums most people in ASCN are very aware of what our strength and weaknesses are. We are very good at some things (like building things) and not so good at others (like fleet pvp).

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