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Captin ShadowHawk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.10 06:00:00 -
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.10 06:07:00 -
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If warp to 0 is actually implemented then gate sniping success should be cut by 50%. You can still snipe people when they jump INTO the system. Frankly I think they should take Sentry Range to 300km and get rid of those god **** snipers once and for all. =============================================== We are Watching You. |

Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.11.10 07:24:00 -
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enforcing close range gatecamping would be a lot better for the game
like scound said, 50% of the gatecamping kills will be gone. I DONT think that more players will go into low sec to make up for it, since the ones in high sec dont want to go in because they fear getting popped.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.10 07:28:00 -
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Well considering that 100% of sniper skills are from players that use autopilot I dont really see a drop in their targets.. Laziness ftw every time.. 
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:32:00 -
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And it's not like people snipe anayway. This may sounds funny to some but I've never been sniped in my 3 odd years playing this game, no matter what ship or what region of space I've been flying through, and neither have I tried doing it myself. About one trillion regular gatecamps sure, but I've never been sniped. So not much will be lost tbh.
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Blessed Souls
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker And it's not like people snipe anayway. This may sounds funny to some but I've never been sniped in my 3 odd years playing this game, no matter what ship or what region of space I've been flying through, and neither have I tried doing it myself. About one trillion regular gatecamps sure, but I've never been sniped. So not much will be lost tbh.
Same here. Dozens of loads of the regular camps close to the gate. Never been sniped.
On another note, implementing warp to 0 will only level the difference between those with BM's and those that dont. Not a problem in my mind. I seriously dont think it would change much.
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Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:52:00 -
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"Will gate sniping be obsolete in kali?"
We can only hope and dream...
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:57:00 -
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i'm surprised that ppl are saying they have never been sniped. i have been shot at many a time by snipers. But yeah if you look at the hp increase, stab nerf and warp to 0 being changed it looks like the pirate sniper's days are numbered.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:03:00 -
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I agree.. Travel from system to system should be relativly easy.. Docking and making a profit or escaping a gank should be the focus of changes.. We are never going to get the timid and docile out of high sec unless they feel they can at least get somewhere without getting popped at the first gate.. Making a living should be hard not simply running around the universe.. And lets face it.. The majority of the playerbase is just fine with high sec.. They might fantasize about the riches in blow sec or 0.0 but current game mechanics just won't allow them access.. They don't have the psychological makeup to make the leap.. But then again they are the ones playing the bills so the minority can be the leet killers they are.. So give em a break and let em in.. You can always kill them later when the population reaches sufficient levels.. 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf i'm surprised that ppl are saying they have never been sniped. i have been shot at many a time by snipers. But yeah if you look at the hp increase, stab nerf and warp to 0 being changed it looks like the pirate sniper's days are numbered.
DE
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Well, at least the improved system scanning looks to make it easier to find people.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Starfire "Will gate sniping be obsolete in kali?"
We can only hope and dream...
bear...
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framolia
Gallente The 5th Amendment
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol I DONT think that more players will go into low sec to make up for it, since the ones in high sec dont want to go in because they fear getting popped.
Too Right. I won't be heading less than 0.5 anytime soon
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Silane Daktor
Soar Angelic Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:55:00 -
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I've kept out of the warp to 0 threads, so can anyone tell me if they have implemented warp to 0 for stations as well as gates on the test server?
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/11/2006 10:00:41
Originally by: Silane Daktor I've kept out of the warp to 0 threads, so can anyone tell me if they have implemented warp to 0 for stations as well as gates on the test server?
Yes, you can Warp to 0 both for stations and gates. Even ships. And everything else. --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Professional Troll
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Starfire "Will gate sniping be obsolete in kali?"
We can only hope and dream...
I guess we're just going to have to grin and carebear it.
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Xeaon
Minmatar Last Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:06:00 -
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So where exactly will pvp take place now since everyone can just insta-dock/jump/run anywhere? ------------
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Eve is not about the old preying on the new, its about the smart preying on the utterly incompetent.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 10/11/2006 10:06:14
Originally by: Jim McGregor Yes, you can Warp to 0 both for stations and gates. Even ships. And everything else.
And god forbid all of that but GTG makes it to kali.. But i'm still of the mind its for ease of testing on SISI..
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xeaon So where exactly will pvp take place now since everyone can just insta-dock/jump/run anywhere?
Same places as before, except people won't be using bookmarks now.
Honestly I don't know how I feel about this whole thing. There are so many pros and cons to the 0km feature I'm inclined to just sit back and take whatever happens.
- Shpank |

Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Felix Dzerzhinsky on 10/11/2006 11:08:28 Well, I know I am against it. For one thing, Warp to 0 will remove the advantage of those who fly blockade runners and WMD fitted T2 Industrials. I really think the HP boost is enough. . . But for me, the cons are too big.
As far a sniping goes, it will not end. What you will see is all the pipes being camped by snipers and they will deploy warp bubbles. So when you hit a bubble. . . you know you are dead. Do you really think Pirating is going to die? Markets will move to 0.0, and pirates will move with the markets. . .and the noobs will follow the new markets to 0.0 even if they are too young and the crying will begin again. I just feel that 0.4-0.1 is going to lose its meaning and concentrate pirates into the pipes.
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Dee Ellis
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:09:00 -
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All issues can be solved by applying the same solution enough times,
get more snipers!
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Hehulk
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:11:00 -
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Doesnt't help the low sec pirates who can't deploy bubbles. Also yes sniping is geting nerfed if your an avid fan of warp core stabs. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |

James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:14:00 -
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Noone is mentioning that the 50% hitpoint boost will make it real tough to pop ships before they can enter warp 
So yeah, will either need sentry tanking setups with fast lock tacklers, or a lot more snipers to compensate for the nerfs. -----
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Silane Daktor
Soar Angelic Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
... those who fly blockade runners and WMD fitted T2 Industrials
you can get those? Is that like a Doomsday Device? 
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:23:00 -
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I would think gate sniping would become the only option: how else will you catch ships warping out (since warpins are now impossible, due to 0km warp) except using sniper ships with 3 or 4 sensor boosters?
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari I would think gate sniping would become the only option: how else will you catch ships warping out (since warpins are now impossible, due to 0km warp) except using sniper ships with 3 or 4 sensor boosters?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Selena 001
Originally by: Dark Shikari I would think gate sniping would become the only option: how else will you catch ships warping out (since warpins are now impossible, due to 0km warp) except using sniper ships with 3 or 4 sensor boosters?
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DeckardIRL
Gallente Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:40:00 -
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I have been sniped at once in Eve.... we got an inty, bm'd his location and the sniper never appeared again... thats in 17 months in Eve... Snipers will just have to change tactics and maybe snipe in pairs or trios especially with the HP increase..
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Lo3d3R
Implant Liberation Front Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.10 12:10:00 -
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afaik there hasnt been a confirmation from any CCP official that 0km warp in will make it they are just letting everyone speculate and write threads about it.
A shame there are allot more bears that want a free pass then there are pirates to defend their point of view.
oh well theres always other games to try would hate to see CCP go mainstream.
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Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.10 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Athena Starfire "Will gate sniping be obsolete in kali?"
We can only hope and dream...
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Nev Clavain
Wise Guys Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari I would think gate sniping would become the only option: how else will you catch ships warping out (since warpins are now impossible, due to 0km warp) except using sniper ships with 3 or 4 sensor boosters?
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