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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.10 14:42:00 -
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Ok The agents are not up to date with what is hapening in the new eve comunety and the are paying there workers like it was 1940 or someting the are clearly living in the past .
If i want to make insta isk out off this offer then i wil get 65 mil and thats just not a good price if u concider i have to pay 200.000 loyalty points .
Maiby some 1 can tel the agents some lessens about inflation and fair payment policy .
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.10 15:54:00 -
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Or you could wait til you get an offer for a faction ship...
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Futuri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.10 16:04:00 -
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Hehe you are actually dealing with deflation (of implant prices)
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Steph Wing
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:30:00 -
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If 65 mil isn't good enough for you, I'll gladly take it. --- "I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." |
Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:07:00 -
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lobby CCP to add diversity to the agent offers this can be done on the ideas and feautres forum
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:15:00 -
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Maybe if there weren't so many of you agent *****s, the prices would still be higher? You and your mission running carebear friends are the ones driving prices down, because the implant offers are so common, and implants are easy to sell.
Maybe you need to take an econ class, before you come here and whine at what is obviously the mission runners' own fault. тттттттттттт
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.13 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Michayel Lyon on 13/11/2006 01:26:29
Originally by: Sadist Maybe if there weren't so many of you agent *****s, the prices would still be higher? You and your mission running carebear friends are the ones driving prices down, because the implant offers are so common, and implants are easy to sell.
Maybe you need to take an econ class, before you come here and whine at what is obviously the mission runners' own fault.
Actually, it's CCP's fault. They changed the offer tables a while back, so now 9/10 offers are for implants. CCP would just have to increase the "bad" offers to make the prices rice again. But I guess that CCP want everybody to afford +4 implants now...
Edit: It's kinda ironic though... A couple of months ago, everybody complained about bad offers such as "give me these drugs and I give you ISK". Everybody wanted +3 implants. CCP all but removed the bad offers completely, and now people are starting to complain about how bad the implant offers have become...
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 10:41:00 -
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OMG its geting bether and bether every time ..
60 mil on the market woehahahahhaha omg all that work .
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist Maybe if there weren't so many of you agent *****s, the prices would still be higher? You and your mission running carebear friends are the ones driving prices down, because the implant offers are so common, and implants are easy to sell.
Maybe you need to take an econ class, before you come here and whine at what is obviously the mission runners' own fault.
BTW i am running missions becouse i was kild in a 4 bil ship in 0.9 space by a guy named Lofty29 that trickt me into a fight with his 2 alts .
So if u dont want to see me running missions then u can blame him .
And if u dont like people that run missions any way then u bether get the hel out off the MISSIONS section of this forum .
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Uggster
Caldari Never'where
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Posted - 2006.11.13 11:17:00 -
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MMXMMX heres a spot of advice for situations just like yours....
dont fly what you cant afford to lose
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 13/11/2006 11:34:29
Originally by: Uggster MMXMMX heres a spot of advice for situations just like yours....
dont fly what you cant afford to lose
There we go, easy when you know how aint it.
I fly whatever i want :) And i make inuf isk to fly in what i want . And if the agent would give me more isk 4 the Loyalty points i would even let my friends fly in someting i can afford to buy 4 them :)
I lost a 4 bil ship and i wil fly next week again in a 4 bil ship . Thats how it works .. Just look ad the screenshots and see the loyalty points .
U need more then 500k LP to get an offer like that .
:)
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Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.13 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX BTW i am running missions becouse i was kild in a 4 bil ship in 0.9 space by a guy named Lofty29 that trickt me into a fight with his 2 alts .
didn't you say you were quitting?
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thetwilitehour
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.13 14:05:00 -
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I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
When you played SG you played like 20 hours a day with bad stats and units, now you seem to ***** missions all the time every day. You complain about the value of loyalty point offers given in the same thread you say you have the isk to fly whatever you want. If you have the isk to fly whatever you want then why do you care about the low value of implants?
Seriously though how can you do the same thing day after day all the time? And you're so amazingly bad at it. How is it you dont play a game like WoW that rewards constant grinding without thought, and end up in Eve, a game that for all intents and purposes is the most in depth and complex MMORPG in the world? You're constantly threatening to quit, but no-one cares or does anything about what you post, because you always get screwed by your own stupidity.
So I'm genuinely curious. Do you have a mental disability? (the opposite of adhd I guess?) Are you just of sub par intelligence? Do you have some kind of job where you have to sit in one place but can play computer games all the time?
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 13/11/2006 16:33:52
Originally by: thetwilitehour I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
When you played SG you played like 20 hours a day with bad stats and units, now you seem to ***** missions all the time every day. You complain about the value of loyalty point offers given in the same thread you say you have the isk to fly whatever you want. If you have the isk to fly whatever you want then why do you care about the low value of implants?
Seriously though how can you do the same thing day after day all the time? And you're so amazingly bad at it. How is it you dont play a game like WoW that rewards constant grinding without thought, and end up in Eve, a game that for all intents and purposes is the most in depth and complex MMORPG in the world? You're constantly threatening to quit, but no-one cares or does anything about what you post, because you always get screwed by your own stupidity.
So I'm genuinely curious. Do you have a mental disability? (the opposite of adhd I guess?) Are you just of sub par intelligence? Do you have some kind of job where you have to sit in one place but can play computer games all the time?
Ask your self this !!
WHY DO U CARE ????????
BTW i dont care about the prices of the implants !!!! I just want someting nice for the 4000k loyalty points . I dident say that must be a implant .
O yes and nice to see u to :)
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nymos
Originally by: MMXMMX BTW i am running missions becouse i was kild in a 4 bil ship in 0.9 space by a guy named Lofty29 that trickt me into a fight with his 2 alts .
didn't you say you were quitting?
Read that topic again if u want to know Maiby u can ask quistions about that over there :) O just read it and u wil find it .
Thanks any way fore your input and nice contributon to this topic .
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 13/11/2006 16:37:02 Getting back on point - These implants used to sell for 150mil+ each around 6-12 months ago. Higher Supply = lower prices.
Now the real reason
Lvl4 Courier mission runners used to be laughed at - not any more. Using multiple agents, and a cheap ass 300k hauler, a NPC corp lvl4 Courier runner can easaly make 100mil+ and a +4 per day easaly. Some making much more than that SEMI-AFK, while they PvP with their main. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX
Originally by: Nymos
Originally by: MMXMMX BTW i am running missions becouse i was kild in a 4 bil ship in 0.9 space by a guy named Lofty29 that trickt me into a fight with his 2 alts .
didn't you say you were quitting?
Read that topic again if u want to know Maiby u can ask quistions about that over there :) O just read it and u wil find it .
Thanks any way fore your input and nice contributon to this topic .
well, my question was directed at your OP because if you had quit as you said you wouldn't have to worry about implant prices. quite pathetic to publicly whine "omg i'm gonna quit" and then not do it.
thanks for *your* input and a quite pointless thread. what about just not accept the implant offer and wait for a better one? if you're so uber at mission running the offers should be just the icing on the cake shouldnt they? oh, and nerf missions if you can replace a 4bn loss in 3 weeks with mission running in .9 ... :P
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Zylis Stormhand
Gallente Intergalactic Corporation of Evil
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: thetwilitehour I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
Is the single best question I have ever read in a forum.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:41:00 -
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Huh,
a) I'm glad you're right back on track after the lofty incident.
b) yeah huh well, LP just aren't worth what they used to be I guess.
c) I'd further like to point out that social chips *may* just rise in price a little once the gang leadership skills hit Tranquility - especially since everybody declines these offers currently - but probably not to 100M per +4 piece. --
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.11.14 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zylis Stormhand
Originally by: thetwilitehour I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
Is the single best question I have ever read in a forum.
I'd say its the most predictable/tiresome one I've seen.
Its great how people become such hard-men on the internet, while safe in their parent's house ;)
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thetwilitehour
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.14 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Wotar
Originally by: Zylis Stormhand
Originally by: thetwilitehour I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
Is the single best question I have ever read in a forum.
I'd say its the most predictable/tiresome one I've seen.
Its great how people become such hard-men on the internet, while safe in their parent's house ;)
I'm sorry but this is based on years of watching the guy plays online games from a distance, and I'm geniunely curious what he can possibly be like in real life that he will find a game that isnt even particularily directed towards grinding and then grind like a machine in that game in a not particularily intelligent way.
Im not desiring to put MMXMMX down at this point, although I do think he's got something wrong with him mentally. And if I wanted to punch him in the face, I would, if I ever met him, but I'm certainly not flying to the Netherlands to do so, and isnt it ironic you talk **** about people talking **** via the internet?
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.11.14 17:10:00 -
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I'm not talking ****. I see so many people calling others retarded, that would not dare to do so to someone's face. Personally, I'm happy to front up to someone and say what I think to their face, in RL etc. Maybe you are too...but your comment is out of line either way. Saying 'are you retarded' is just a slightly sugar-coated version of 'you are retarded'.
If you truly suspected that he may be mentally handicapped (thats what you're asking, right?), you'd surely treat the matter with a little more sensitivity. I think you're just caling him a retard, which imho is tiresome and predictable.
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Rilder
Caldari black viper corp
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 13/11/2006 16:37:02 Getting back on point - These implants used to sell for 150mil+ each around 6-12 months ago. Higher Supply = lower prices.
Now the real reason
Lvl4 Courier mission runners used to be laughed at - not any more. Using multiple agents, and a cheap ass 300k hauler, a NPC corp lvl4 Courier runner can easaly make 100mil+ and a +4 per day easaly. Some making much more than that SEMI-AFK, while they PvP with their main.
Meh your right that people shouldnt do it while afk or on a second account but why should people be forced into combat just to make money? the whole first 2 months in the game I didnt give a crap about combat, I was afraid of losing everything I worked for so I didnt even do missions and just mined and did trade runs...
anyways, a good trader would make **** loads more money then a courrier mission runner, Im not evena half decent trader when I trade and I make more money then the level 4 courriers I do sometimes ------------
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Dragon Lord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:45:00 -
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fact is the implant offers are far to common there should be more isk for lp offers that way +4s ect would keep there price and people who save there lp will make money from there lp, the faction offers arent common and the navy raven offer is insainly rare for me. An I know Lofty29 MMXMMX hes got alot of people with his warring gang trick lucky for me a corpy ran into him and got ganked but escaped and warned the rest of us about him. hes based in Motsu atm so to anyone who cares dont gang with anyone u dont know in motsu unless ur gang leader, that should always apply anyway tbh
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: thetwilitehour
Originally by: Wotar
Originally by: Zylis Stormhand
Originally by: thetwilitehour I dont mean this as a flame, but as a real serious question.
Are you retarded?
Is the single best question I have ever read in a forum.
I'd say its the most predictable/tiresome one I've seen.
Its great how people become such hard-men on the internet, while safe in their parent's house ;)
I'm sorry but this is based on years of watching the guy plays online games from a distance, and I'm geniunely curious what he can possibly be like in real life that he will find a game that isnt even particularily directed towards grinding and then grind like a machine in that game in a not particularily intelligent way.
Im not desiring to put MMXMMX down at this point, although I do think he's got something wrong with him mentally. And if I wanted to punch him in the face, I would, if I ever met him, but I'm certainly not flying to the Netherlands to do so, and isnt it ironic you talk **** about people talking **** via the internet?
If u dont mind ?????? I wil keep my personal live persanal . I never mix persanal live with a game becouse a game needs to be fun :)
And again i ask u !!! Ask your self this !!
WHY DO U CARE ????????
U can mail me the answer and i hope u can stop trying to dig in my personal live from this moment .
Maiby its time some 1 wil watch u a little clooser .
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dragon Lord fact is the implant offers are far to common there should be more isk for lp offers that way +4s ect would keep there price and people who save there lp will make money from there lp, the faction offers arent common and the navy raven offer is insainly rare for me. An I know Lofty29 MMXMMX hes got alot of people with his warring gang trick lucky for me a corpy ran into him and got ganked but escaped and warned the rest of us about him. hes based in Motsu atm so to anyone who cares dont gang with anyone u dont know in motsu unless ur gang leader, that should always apply anyway tbh
Yeh long time ago i got offers like Caldary navy missile launchers and it would be nice to see more of that kind of stuf .
But Kali is comming soon :)
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PotheadDave
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: PotheadDave on 15/11/2006 15:00:11 thetwilitehour are u SG name Twilight u were a *** flamer there and you turn out to be a *** flamer here. is it not so bad u tell him that he choose pathedic units and smoked u personally every time he saw u maybe not your corp but personnally u. is that why u asked stupid questions? this is ChaoticGhost MMXMMX lap dog but i live in a America and u can strike a convo in game with me any time i will give u my address i can set your silly mouth straight when u come knocking on my front door.
IF he wants to make 180 mill a day running missions he can run them. If he wants to rat all day at our -0.075 system POS with 29 belts he will do so and even if he wants to fly PVP in 500mill ravens, Who the Hell are u but some pathedic Chump anyway.
IF u have a Problem declare war u Peace of Trash and i will show u my intensity my Wrath and my will. or u can sit up there in 9-4 XZH and continue running your mouth, i watched him play for a long time other games u sound like a pathedic stalker follow people to other games so u can harass them there go ahead harass me but venting MMX made me look at the Forum after 6 months of not reading a thing to find out some putz from another game thinks he is cool with flames
TRY being a lil less caught up with a D.i.c.k in your mouth and go greive on someone else somewhere else. this was to ask questions about mission running not to be harassed by some special ed child think he is tough talking smack miles away.
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OneSock
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:01:00 -
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To follow this one up.
I have been checking out the agent offer database for Navy Comets and it seems there is an offer around the 20k LP mark. But of course the cost to the player is 100m isk and then the mins/parts to build from the BPC.
Seems a bit crazy when you can buy a build comet on escrow for 50mill or less.
Is the Eve info Agent offer DB up to date ? How can people be selling comets at 50m if the agents want 100mill for a BPC ?
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Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:21:00 -
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Maybe it is a 3 or 5 run BPC?
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.16 08:04:00 -
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Nice real nice .
Compare the last 2 offers and see the differnces . 400k lp = 60 mil isk 450k lp = 560 mil isk 50k loyalty points = 500k isk
But any way i didend take the offer . Even when its a real nice 1 . I wil wait an see with what he is comming up next .
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.19 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 19/11/2006 11:04:34
A realy nice offer that i realy want to accept :)
But where do i get those 1600 Elite Drone AI ? I can not find them on the market and not on escrow . And i never have seen 1 yet .
Is this a bug ? Or Is the agent Joking again with me ?
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luvulongtime
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Posted - 2006.11.19 17:20:00 -
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Elite Drone Ai drop in lvl 4 silence the informant mission and you need 1 to see them on the market
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2006.11.20 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: luvulongtime Elite Drone Ai drop in lvl 4 silence the informant mission and you need 1 to see them on the market
Yeah I ran that mission with a friend and used one of the Elite Drone AIs to "View Market Details" on them.. (Here's a hint: borrow one and add it to your Market Quickbar--apparently there are a fair number of non-searchable 'invisible' market items) Around Amsen they were going for 700k-1.2 million ISK each. Good luck finding so many of them.. in the whole REGION there wasn't even 200 of them (with one person asking 450 MILLION for 1 unit)
I, too, am getting slightly annoyed at all the implant offers. I've gotten nothing BUT implant offers in the past few weeks..and not even GOOD implant offers. I'm talking 8 units of +1 implants (usually Social) for 18000 LPs from 3 different agents between Caldari and Gallente over and over, again and again. I guess I was 'lucky' today and had an offer for 3 units of +2 perception for 20,000 LPs. I miss looking forward to checking my EVEmail each day to see if I was offered a ship (common or T2) or one of the 'bad' contraband offers for crazy ISK.
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:18:00 -
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O yeh .
With a little bit of grinding u wil get to the real nice stuf .
I accepted this offer .
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.11.21 11:33:00 -
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So 2 CNR for 400Million ISK? That's a nice deal.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.21 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz So 2 CNR for 400Million ISK? That's a nice deal.
QFT, even with mineral costs to build it, you'd end up with probably around 1.4b profit off of that.
Nice use of the English language btw MMX .
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Egil Kolsto
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Posted - 2006.11.21 17:24:00 -
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Dear MMXMMX!
I JUST got that offer last night and was VERY careful to make sure I said no thanks. I am now 432k towards the CNR and anything less than that I will not accept. As soon as I get my CNR I am moving to another agent, Lofty makes Motsu a place where you do not want to be. I guess being willing to help people is considered a weakness in this game?
PS: How close are you to your CNR?
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Trotski II
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX O yeh .
With a little bit of grinding u wil get to the real nice stuf .
I accepted this offer .
Congratz on the offer. Working for it too althought hope i get the 1 copy offer at 500K LP.
that was some nice grind. At least 800K points in 10 days
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Miranda Duvall
Gallente OPM Holdings
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Posted - 2006.11.22 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Miranda Duvall on 22/11/2006 01:36:05
Originally by: Sokratesz So 2 CNR for 400Million ISK? That's a nice deal.
Not really 400M
Take into account what 1M LP is worth:
In the lower ranges the single +3 implant WAS just about the baseline for what 1 LP should be worth in isk: The 15k LP for a +3 implant offer.
A good implant would net you 30M isk easy, making 1 LP worth 2000 isk. Since the prices have fallen lets say its now around 1500 isk per LP. That 1M LP is worth 1.5B isk!!!
Add the 400M to that: 1.9B, divide by 2 for 2 runs: 950M per copy, add around 125M for the mineral cost: the CNR costs you a bit under 1.1B isk.
Since that includes the "nominal value" of the LP spent, you still make a good profit, but not quite as much as you think.
This offer IS profitable tho so its very much worth taking!
Isn't it great being a skill collector?
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.22 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Sokratesz So 2 CNR for 400Million ISK? That's a nice deal.
QFT, even with mineral costs to build it, you'd end up with probably around 1.4b profit off of that.
Nice use of the English language btw MMX .
I dit put the bpc on escrow and got 1.8 bil . It was only 10 min on escrow :)
So yes 1.4 bil profit :)
Yeh me is Dutch so i do my best
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.22 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Trotski II
Originally by: MMXMMX O yeh .
With a little bit of grinding u wil get to the real nice stuf .
I accepted this offer .
Congratz on the offer. Working for it too althought hope i get the 1 copy offer at 500K LP.
that was some nice grind. At least 800K points in 10 days
Yeh when u go fast like this then the agent wil skip some offers :)
But it was nice to get there and the reward is olso nice :) And i made some 1 happy with the bpc .
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Loraen
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Posted - 2006.11.24 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miranda Duvall Edited by: Miranda Duvall on 22/11/2006 01:36:05
Originally by: Sokratesz So 2 CNR for 400Million ISK? That's a nice deal.
Not really 400M
Take into account what 1M LP is worth:
In the lower ranges the single +3 implant WAS just about the baseline for what 1 LP should be worth in isk: The 15k LP for a +3 implant offer.
A good implant would net you 30M isk easy, making 1 LP worth 2000 isk. Since the prices have fallen lets say its now around 1500 isk per LP. That 1M LP is worth 1.5B isk!!!
Add the 400M to that: 1.9B, divide by 2 for 2 runs: 950M per copy, add around 125M for the mineral cost: the CNR costs you a bit under 1.1B isk.
Since that includes the "nominal value" of the LP spent, you still make a good profit, but not quite as much as you think.
This offer IS profitable tho so its very much worth taking!
Goes to show that the implant prices were "too high", because for most of the offers the baseline is 1 LP = 1000 ISK.
Currently, if you're good at grinding up LP, best offer to turn into ISK aside from navy BSes is the "Prove your worth" version for a +5 implant, requiring 300k LP and 15000 units of High-Tech *.
* = each implant has it's own required H-T item, best IIRC is Int, which requires an easy haul of datachips (0.1m3 a piece), while other H-T items go up to 100m3 a piece).
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