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smoogie	Posted - 2006.11.11 09:20:00 - [1] Edited by: smoogie on 11/11/2006 09:23:56 I'm basically looking for a good and versatile 0.0 belt hunting setup for a crusader. Targets will be your typical battleship (eg. Raven, Domi) or battlecruiser (eg. Ferox) belt ratter. It needs to have enough damage to kill them before help arrives (typically 3-4 minutes). I require any setup have an armor repairer, scrambler (20km preferably) and some sort of propulsion mod. I'm basically looking for someone with experience to reply, because there's plenty of good setups in on paper/theory. My main has maxed fitting skills so thats not a problem (Eng V, Elec V, AWU 5). Things I am having trouble deciding on: AB vs. MWD beam vs. pulse low slot layout (how many CPRs? Tank?) The task is then to construct a crusader that can survive a 0.0 dictor bubble gatecamp while travelling and kill your typical belt ratter under(Raven) within 3 minutes.
50freefly Caldari Purify	Posted - 2006.11.11 10:27:00 - [2] Any competant belt ratter will kill you with his drones, and will almost surely have heavy nos. I really don't think you are gonna kill Ravens in a Crusader, but that's just my opinion. Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Electric Cucumber Amarr Extinction Level Event	Posted - 2006.11.11 10:30:00 - [3] Originally by: 50freefly Any competant belt ratter will kill you with his drones, and will almost surely have heavy nos. I really don't think you are gonna kill Ravens in a Crusader, but that's just my opinion. that's like 5% of the ratters, the rest will lose to inties
Anominity Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.11.11 10:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Anominity on 11/11/2006 10:53:15 My Crusader setup for solo gankage: Hi: 4 x Dual Light Pulse Laser 2's (Conflag/Scorch) Med: 1 x 1mn MWD 2 1 x Fleeting Scrambler Low: 1 x Local Hull Nanofibre 1 x Co-Processor 2 2 x Heat Sink 2's I <3 it, very quick at killing most stuff :)
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.11 10:54:00 - [5] Originally by: Electric Cucumber Originally by: 50freefly Any competant belt ratter will kill you with his drones, and will almost surely have heavy nos. I really don't think you are gonna kill Ravens in a Crusader, but that's just my opinion. that's like 5% of the ratters, the rest will lose to inties And 90% will run away due to antiscrambler h4x. ----------------------------------------------- KALI WILL SAVE US ALL...
Mathias Orsen Gold-dust	Posted - 2006.11.11 11:15:00 - [6] I don't have the experience for this type of combat, but I will say that a MWD is better than an AB. Reason is that when you warp into a belt, you could be 100km away from them or land on top of them. MWD will get you within scramble range when you come out 100km from them where an AB is only effective if already close to the target. Other than that, I prefer using cap relays and a 20km scrambler... can make a difference if you have to travel 100km and they are trying to warp out. As far as my experience with people trying to attack me while i rat a belt... You need all the damage you can get. I've fought off vagas while tanking 3x 1.5m BS rats. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get"
50freefly Caldari Purify	Posted - 2006.11.11 11:45:00 - [7] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Electric Cucumber Originally by: 50freefly Any competant belt ratter will kill you with his drones, and will almost surely have heavy nos. I really don't think you are gonna kill Ravens in a Crusader, but that's just my opinion. that's like 5% of the ratters, the rest will lose to inties And 90% will run away due to antiscrambler h4x. And the other 5 percent are bait, and their alliance will jump in from the next system and gank your face off. Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.11.11 11:47:00 - [8] if you use an AB, I don't think you'd survive the drones (and I don't think you could shoot tehm down fast enough) You seem to be suggesting that you be given a setup that: does lots of damage, has an armor repair, can run a 20 km scram... You've got to be realistic. If you want to get the quick kill, you can't have your lows filled with tanking mods. Also, don't try to get npc'ers who are fighting sansha / darkblood unless you use autocannons. Also, you can't take out a dominix fast enough since he will likely have perfect resists against you as well as nos. You can try, see if he nos's and warp off but even without nos, you won't be pulling off a 3 minute kill. For working out your cap issues, I suggest using quickfit and simulating it. -Bart
smoogie	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:21:00 - [9] Edited by: smoogie on 11/11/2006 18:21:35 Originally by: Electric Cucumber Originally by: 50freefly Any competant belt ratter will kill you with his drones, and will almost surely have heavy nos. I really don't think you are gonna kill Ravens in a Crusader, but that's just my opinion. that's like 5% of the ratters, the rest will lose to inties Yes, I have enough experience to know this. Very few people have competent setups. Back to the topic, is there any setup (perhaps with a lot of cap relays?) that can orbit with MWD on and (7.5 or 20km) scrambler running while firing guns? How close can the crusader orbit at 4000 m/s+?
Drazin DawnTreader	Posted - 2006.11.12 03:04:00 - [10] I can orbit with MWD on and fire guns for what appears to be an infinite amount of time with my Crusader. I can't however run a scram or webber for very long in the process. Highs- 4x Gatling Pulse Laser II w/Scorch (9.1km range) Mids - Hydro-MWD + Fleeting Scram Lows - 2x CPR + Heatsink + Armor Rep You really can't run everything at once. You either run your web/scram for a little while or you run the Armor rep for a little while. I don't think any Crusader setup could run Both at the same time, and an MWD and shoot 4 turrets. Personally, I would ditch the Armor Rep and throw on a plate or Something else that either adds to your durability or increases your DPS.

FraXy Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.12 03:33:00 - [11] 4x Dual Light Pulse II Catalzed Mwd, Fleeting 7.5k Small Repper II, Heat Sink II, 2x 'named' CPR Need good skills to fit. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
Litus Arowar Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.	Posted - 2006.11.13 22:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Drazin DawnTreader I can orbit with MWD on and fire guns for what appears to be an infinite amount of time with my Crusader. I can't however run a scram or webber for very long in the process. Highs- 4x Gatling Pulse Laser II w/Scorch (9.1km range) Mids - Hydro-MWD + Fleeting Scram Lows - 2x CPR + Heatsink + Armor Rep You really can't run everything at once. You either run your web/scram for a little while or you run the Armor rep for a little while. I don't think any Crusader setup could run Both at the same time, and an MWD and shoot 4 turrets. Personally, I would ditch the Armor Rep and throw on a plate or Something else that either adds to your durability or increases your DPS. best setup, except a MWD2 or even gistii is easily fit for the MWD... depends on your wallet of course with conflag, you'll do 170+ raw DPS, which isn't amazing, but it's alright there ya go cytomatrix> Try sitting inside a big frickin ball filled up with glue and tubes stuck up your nose and your arse. Then compare RL and Eve.


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