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Varrinox Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 87	Posted - 2015.05.16 22:04:51 - [1] - Quote Having done almost everything in EVE at some point over the past 4.5 years [with the exception of high end c5/c6 WH living] I have come to a few conclusions I wish to share. Note - Mixture of constructive thoughts and mindless drivel are here. I expect that all of you reply in a similar fashion, some constructive discussion and some drivel in equal measure. - Eve's players are killing their baby with an over concentration on e-peen ** waving of who is considered best. - Killboards suck - Obscene levels of information available at the click of google on pilots suck - Using alts in every feasible way to gain the upper hand purely so you can win easily suck - Who gives a who "won" in the internet spaceships, he who enjoyed himself the most won at the "game" "E-Peen" A term given to the measurements of ones pointless achievements in a pointless internet spaceships game to show off to other pointless players in a pointless environment. I have found my E peen to be fairly longer than most others but I chopped it off about a year back when I really stopped caring and just started whelping , trolling and generally having lots of fun. - Productive happy content with human players is the best content - This can include killing one another but being civil enough to have a conversation with one another afterwards that consist of more than " YOU *** FACE SHAFT I WILL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF THEN DOWN YOUR THROAT" - Can be good for you by having a person to talk to when nobody else is around to talk to - Can also be good that local targets can band together to fight bigger entities when they pass through because they view the devils they know as enemies of their enemy then others are around - Human beings want to help one another, it's a basic instinct that is gradually overridden by societal pressures to hate others, at our core when we are young we only know love. Fact. Happiness is each to their owns decision I personally like to rub overly ripe mango's between my thighs after a long run whilst still sweaty but long enough for the raw of the rash to subside a bit. Then I find the skinniest Spaniard in the town and entwine him in the broad thighs until he renounces the taunting of bulls and learns Ancients Hebrew. - Greifing, whilst an appreciable part of a game aiming for the "sandbox" route, defeats the point of it being a game. - Yes I have done it to people and had it done to myself - Pushes some people away from the game, whilst short term you may view this as a great thing "I can make the game so unplayable for someone they just quit, this is epic" if you succeeded with that to everyone you would be alone, Eve would end and it would all be for naught. - When you completely dunk a new bro or someone is bad, be nice, talk to them and offer them friendly advice. In the vast majority of my experience doing this most are very grateful and usually return the favour with huge dividends in the future. In conclusion, you all, I am far superior and could online my harem of alts and go back to being omnipotent in all areas which I chose to enter in this what has become a simulator for all things wrong with society. Edit - this is not a conclusion merely a side note of your own stupidity and the inequity of this bollox I post. Stupid . Eve is quite obviously capable of being Pay 2 Win, man buys plex, he sells plex, looses many of them, buys more sells more, get slightly less incompetent with each rinse and repeat of this and has an endless supply of ships fit in whatever way he wishes and almost any character he wants to fly them with hundreds of millions of SP. My right buttock has roughly 2.687276987% more effect on my hip thrusting capabilities than my left buttock. This worries me as I have always preferred my left, its just so much more liberal willing to sit anytime on anything with anyone. My right on the other hand only ever wants to sit on a black man. Bans alts Ban PLEX Cause catastrophic cashflow shortage in CCP so as to kick them up the arse and redirect the game in a more productive direction. Massively increase the availability of alliance tournament style PvP, and I mean *** EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN LEGIT ROUGHLY LEVEL PLAYING FIELD PVP. That is where PvP is most fun, I have never done AT but organised small scale similar events myself and they were a blast, so much more fun than usual bullshit of eves somewhat tedious PvP. Frankly if you do not like this kind of PvP your just one of the people who wants to win, win, win, win, win never lose. You have issues, go explode some ships, its fun to die and not give a . I have a hard on for watching Madison Ivy being dominated by a 76 year old who just paid her to dress int he sluttiest nurses outfit I have seen since I went to Mars Also a note to most other FCs I have flown with, and a lot of other players. Don't be such arrogant fucks your not gods greatest gift to this game, sure you are telling people what to do the pilots who just log in to try and have a good time are the best asset to this game. There was once 3 dwarves. Shaven, oiled and tied up. One was Scottish, one was English and one was Welsh. They all died in a zombie apocalypse. TLDR: Next time a god type person tries to convert you, think of me, look at them, close your eyes, think of me some more. Put your left hand on your right knee cap, use your right hand to gently stroke your left nipples whilst licking your lips. Then stop, realize what a fool you look and ask he man, what on earth was God thinking when he created a being such perverse as the one before him? Are you in gods image? does he play with himself? What does it all mean Basil. Moderators - you, legit thread, ** you a second time. i will kill thee a hundred and fifty ways. May the Varr be with you tonight, and your wife tomorrow night. o/
Arla Sarain 447	Posted - 2015.05.16 22:09:06 - [2] - Quote But does it blend?
Samillian Angry Mustellid The Periphery 787	Posted - 2015.05.16 22:50:06 - [3] - Quote Film at eleven. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Paranoid Loyd 5189	Posted - 2015.05.16 22:58:57 - [4] - Quote I see CAM's ADD+mountain dew fueled rants are starting to spread like a disease through BNI. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1416	Posted - 2015.05.16 23:17:34 - [5] - Quote Problem with your premise is it misses one vital truth about eve. Its a terrible game. All the things that you are complaining about are what make eve worth playing.
Demerius Xenocratus Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 355	Posted - 2015.05.16 23:50:08 - [6] - Quote When you play the game of alts, you multibox or you die.
Civ Kado Caldari Provisions Caldari State 76	Posted - 2015.05.16 23:54:10 - [7] - Quote high sec is too OP
Abannans Forum Alt Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 20	Posted - 2015.05.17 00:14:40 - [8] - Quote can I have your stuff
Silverbackyererse The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate 141	Posted - 2015.05.17 00:40:28 - [9] - Quote Would read again (when under the influence of various legal and not so legal substances). Maybe the OP could share the appropriate cocktail recipe? In the mean time, have a hug instead of a thumbs-up.
Corail Amber Losing All Hope Was Freedom 26	Posted - 2015.05.17 08:38:24 - [10] - Quote Worst thing about it is that he's kinda right..... This nurse outfit was really, really slutty.

Nameira Vanis-Tor Hoplite Brigade 126	Posted - 2015.05.17 09:02:36 - [11] - Quote Have to say, one of the odder posts I've read! Sorry to see you leaving FW V, Amarr Militia have lost an FC willing to train the newb slavers and run open militia fleets. Good luck out there - we may even run into you in Fountain!
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 386	Posted - 2015.05.17 10:05:11 - [12] - Quote Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: Have to say, one of the odder posts I've read! Yeah, can't figure how complaining about other playstyles and mechanics comes together with a don't give a f*** attitude. IMO who takes EvE as a computer game (though sometimes this is hard ) will always win. I'm my own NPC alt.
Varrinox Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 88	Posted - 2015.05.17 18:41:21 - [13] - Quote Your anal sphincter will need reconstructive surgery when I'm done. Not giving a **** does not restrict one from having an opinion, valid or not, on the activities of others. I cannot confirm or deny my presence at this years Best Beard in Norway contest. I have already given my stuff to the neediest potato starved Irishman this side of Calcutta. If I was in World War Two they'd call me spitfire.
Plato Forko Percussive Diplomacy 153	Posted - 2015.05.17 18:46:43 - [14] - Quote let this be a lesson to all of you what eve does to a mind.
StonerPhReaK Herb Men 177	Posted - 2015.05.17 20:12:07 - [15] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva
May Arethusa PillowBrigade Inc 26	Posted - 2015.05.17 20:38:08 - [16] - Quote You lost me at "everything".
Iyokus Patrouette Sudden Buggery Prolapse. 478	Posted - 2015.05.17 22:27:42 - [17] - Quote Round round get around I get around Yeah Get around round round I get around I get around Get around round round I get around From town to town Get around round round I get around I'm a real cool head Get around round round I get around I'm makin' real good bread I'm gettin' bugged driving up and down this same old strip I gotta finda new place where the kids are hip My buddies and me are getting real well known Yeah, the bad guys know us and they leave us alone I get around Get around round round I get around From town to town Get around round round I get around I'm a real cool head Get around round round I get around I'm makin' real good bread Get around round round I get around I get around Round Get around round round oooo Wah wa ooo Wah wa ooo Wah wa ooo We always take my car cause it's never been beat And we've never missed yet with the girls we meet None of the guys go steady cause it wouldn't be right To leave their best girl home on a Saturday night I get around Get around round round I get around From town to town Get around round round I get around I'm a real cool head Get around round round I get around I'm makin' real good bread Get around round round I get around I get around Round Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah Round round get around I get around Yeah Get around round round I get around Get around round round I get around Wah wa ooo Get around round round I get around Oooo ooo ooo Get around round round I get around Ahh ooo ooo Get around round round I get around Ahh ooo ooo Get around round round I get around Ahh ooo ooo ---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
Grease PaYN Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists 24	Posted - 2015.05.18 03:52:46 - [18] - Quote I concur.
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 139	Posted - 2015.05.18 04:52:57 - [19] - Quote Varrinox wrote: Eve is quite obviously capable of being Pay 2 Win, man buys plex, he sells plex, looses many of them, buys more sells more, get slightly less incompetent with each rinse and repeat of this and has an endless supply of ships fit in whatever way he wishes and almost any character he wants to fly them with hundreds of millions of SP. well, if we consider this guy, it may take a while and would burn alot of isks/PLEX. Just Add Water
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3297	Posted - 2015.05.18 05:25:02 - [20] - Quote wow. what a eruption only after a few days in BNI :P on the topic of not being mean to others i do agree partially. The thing is that eve has mean people. But do you know what is best about eve? Standings. The ability to set standings is for me one of the most important parts of eve. I noticed i enjoy fighting someone i set to -10 for whatever reason far more than for example neutrals... people i don't know yet. Its the reputation, if you believe you can do whatever you want in eve you are wrong since your reputation is directly influenced by that (which is awesome since we have standings!). There is no standing reset for me unless the reputation changes. regarding tournaments. I do see why they can be fun (not only for the participants also for observers). However, tournaments are only a very very very small part of eve. If i have to describe eve i don't think on tournaments at all. Tournaments are like car races, you get in your league and you drive in circles. The rest of eve is like a chase in madmax - you have no freaking clue what happens next. Very different. In eve you are the matchmaker. Other games (and tournaments) have software which does that for you. regarding killboards. Yes they are horrible. The statistics they collect are useless since all they see are the kill information eve gives them. You have the best fight of your life, kill 5 things, loot everything and die to thing #6 and your kb is negative since you lost more than you killed with the stuff in cargo. It is FAR to easy to "get on a killmail", logistics are not shown, links are not shown, who shot first is not there, you can't see if you fought 5 things at once or you happened to kill 5 things in a row in 1v1s. So there is nothing really interesting on a KM beside the fact that a ship exploded while you where on grid and "got on the km". The fact that its far to easy to get on a km makes any isk efficiency rating and any k/d rating useless... which is basically what kbs are. regarding winning. Sure winning is not important but having some form of success kinda is. Throwing ships away for the lolz can be fun a few times but isn't it more fun if you try to learn from the mistakes, set goals and succeed (partially is often good enough)? How often is it even possible to determine who won a battle? Even if you are outnumbered and outgunned and you still manage to kill something can be a success. You lose a system but you can still give a good fight and lose less ships than the hostiles. There is no winning or losing its usually something between the extremes. I think what you wanted to say is that winning while trying to minimize the challenge at all costs is bad. Yep, i agree there, but thanks to CCP we can set standings and thanks to CCP we are allowed to be the matchmaker -> #problemSolved how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate 1431	Posted - 2015.05.18 05:29:23 - [21] - Quote Varrinox wrote: I have found my E peen to be fairly longer than most others but I chopped it off about a year back when I really stopped caring and just started whelping ****, trolling and generally having lots of fun. I am sure POS modules and other various structures around New Eden are feeling much safer now. https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Varrinox Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 89	Posted - 2015.05.18 07:37:26 - [22] - Quote Third point. No seventeenth holes allowed on this course once you put the ninth move along to the hundred and sixtieth hole. All holes in between are inhabited by mind controlling badgers and should be approached initially with great caution but once in contact should be worshipped as your gods. Firstly non of you have achieved a comparable balance between constructive discussions and mindless drivel. Please address this issue. Banana hammock 2.7537.67 now with additional whipped cream As for the plebs among you, yes you ibanez, quite why you want to base any of this in the past weeks kill board and not the years gone by I don't know. I would suggest it's down to your mothers overly ambitious attempts of drinking twenty seven bottles of rum a day during pregnancy in the hope you would become a movie star pirate like Johnny depp. Instead you just became a fool with intellectual capacity comparable to that of decomposing cabbage. This just in, fire ants have invaded North dakota and have started to train the horses to act out multiple Shakespeare plays at a time all whilst controlling the brains of the republican tea party movement. Or is this just an elaborate ruse made by republican leadership to use as a completely implausable excuse for calling Obama a ****.
Kaea Astridsson Hoplite Brigade 156	Posted - 2015.05.18 10:52:26 - [23] - Quote Felicity felt Forest Gumps farts. Last sentence almost every word started with an F. Fad to fee you foo. 10/10 would welp thrasher fleets against your dragoons again.
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate 1432	Posted - 2015.05.19 06:19:05 - [24] - Quote Varrinox wrote: Third point. No seventeenth holes allowed on this course once you put the ninth move along to the hundred and sixtieth hole. All holes in between are inhabited by mind controlling badgers and should be approached initially with great caution but once in contact should be worshipped as your gods. Firstly non of you have achieved a comparable balance between constructive discussions and mindless drivel. Please address this issue. Banana hammock 2.7537.67 now with additional whipped cream As for the plebs among you, yes you ibanez, quite why you want to base any of this in the past weeks kill board and not the years gone by I don't know. I would suggest it's down to your mothers overly ambitious attempts of drinking twenty seven bottles of rum a day during pregnancy in the hope you would become a movie star pirate like Johnny depp. Instead you just became a fool with intellectual capacity comparable to that of decomposing cabbage. This just in, fire ants have invaded North dakota and have started to train the horses to act out multiple Shakespeare plays at a time all whilst controlling the brains of the republican tea party movement. Or is this just an elaborate ruse made by republican leadership to use as a completely implausable excuse for calling Obama a ****. It was Vodka bro. + I've always found Cabbage to be quite an intelligent and versatile vegetable. https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 623	Posted - 2015.05.21 14:05:15 - [25] - Quote Yeah! What he said! Hey Hollywood! Get to work making that remake of "The Last Starfighter"!
Samuel Triptee Frankenstuff 99	Posted - 2015.05.27 13:03:10 - [26] - Quote I read this entire thread... out loud... The badger holding a gun to my head made me do it. Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?
Master Sergeant MacRobert Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 203	Posted - 2015.05.27 15:03:03 - [27] - Quote Samuel Triptee wrote: I read this entire thread... out loud... The badger holding a gun to my head made me do it. Gotta love a Battle Badger.... ... ... or any Battle Industrial tbh. "Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
Squatdog State Protectorate Caldari State 179	Posted - 2015.05.27 23:03:46 - [28] - Quote Your stuff. Can I have it?
Starbuck05 Pretty Hate Machine. 258	Posted - 2015.05.28 23:31:51 - [29] - Quote my mind if oficially blown ... all this truth stuffed in to one thread , someone pass me the bong , me has to loooseeeen up .. -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
Domino Vyse Meatshield Bastards The Bastards. 112	Posted - 2015.05.29 07:46:22 - [30] - Quote I get it. And I agree. Apart from more AT style 'organised' PVP. At least, not on tranquility.

Brink Albosa Brink's Bar Adirainia 87	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:57:23 - [31] - Quote Sounds like you bent your epeen
Freya Sertan Provincia Septim 133	Posted - 2015.05.29 18:12:24 - [32] - Quote This thread only wins because of the Jan & Dean song.
pushdogg Tell Your Mum To Call Me Get Off My Lawn 14	Posted - 2015.05.31 02:07:53 - [33] - Quote Arla Sarain wrote: But does it blend? but can i waffle it?
Duke Kincaid Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 00:38:32 - [34] - Quote I'd vote for you m8!
Yves Nat Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 13:36:55 - [35] - Quote Of course there is meanness in Eve, it's the internet, where no one know you are (mean) dog. My dog is quite friendly, but just don't wobble toward him ... The Bell Curve applies everywhere, this has me thinking about how it exists, though warped, in Eve. It seems to me that internet courage is in inverse proportion to real life courage, and that there is a direct correlation between one's total life consumption of alcohol (etc) and sex, and a relaxed, amicable, enjoyable attitude towards the game. Call it worldliness. I don't know, there's no research, just my human psychology talking to me. I can see the e-peen appeal, with or without bananas, to accumulating listings on killboards, but I don't understand it. It can make it look like someone is "winning" but Eve cannot be won, it can only be played. Learn well, grasshopper. I can understand the appeal of suicide ganking, the Eve mechanics and rules make it one of the most economically sensible tactics in the game, a "greed is good, greed works" thing, because there's essentially no downside, criminality without any actual criminal penalty. But I can't see the appeal, because it takes that false internet courage and real meanness. (But ganking a capsule ... Is there actually any satisfaction in that? Stepping on an ant is more challenging and rewarding.) Anyone have an idea when "tear extraction" became a concept? Do these tears really flow? Maybe they do, anything's possible, but is there anyone who is actually crying out there? And where do these tear extractors keep these tears, in what type of vessel? Something to beat off to in the mind? Eve, let me hear you sing! "I'd like to teach New Eden to drink In perfect harmony I'd like to buy New Eden a beer And keep it company" Flying spaceships is cool, but it's getting lonely out there, and they've nothing to hold on to but their e-peens.


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