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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:22:56 -
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I used to post these kind of one shot questions in new citizens but someone pointed out that my character is no longer one.
So here we are General Discussion.
Shield Boosting
I won't go into what my guess is or what seems logical to me right away so here is the question to the panel
There are ships and modules that give bonuses to shield boosting, does the bonus apply to remote shield boosting as in receiving reps ?
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:59:27 -
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Garnoo wrote:depends whats in the description...
In the case of ships it says 'Bonus to shield booster amount'
In the case of the module it says ' Focuses and amplifies the efficiency of shield boosting modules'
So unless I am going to get a second account and look very closely at the distance the bar moves to see if it is different then I'm not sure. |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:21:14 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Generally, no. Shield emission systems do not "boost" shields, they transfer it.
Ha ha..Sci fi grammer.. there's a difference ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 09:54:28 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Go read the Logistics ships, then think for yourself.
Osprey 12.5% Bonus to Remote Shield Booster Amount |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:03:51 -
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Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:20:07 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Eve Solecist wrote: Local bonuses do not apply to effects applied by someone else.
/thread.
You make it sound like a commonly known verse, what other situation is that applicable ? Armor reps. Remote sensor boosters Remote Tracking Computers Some of these things come with intuition. When games began being popular some players began being more intrusively interested in how games are made. You get a knack for realising which objects are separated or not.
There is a ship or module that has a bonus to Tracking Computes or Sensor Boosters ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:59:16 -
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CrayC wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:There are ships and modules that give bonuses to shield boosting, does the bonus apply to remote shield boosting as in receiving reps ?
There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO you. There are ships or modules that can give you a bonus when you fly/use them, to repairs done BY you TO others. There are no ships or modules that can give a bonus to you when you fly/use them, that increases repairs done BY others TO you. Does this help a bit more? Edit: Look up Logistics cruisers.
Well ok then you know your shield boosting amplifiers well, just they seem to drop quite frequently in anomic team missions where the pirate is being shield boosted and found it a bit strange that they have never dropped on any other type of mission I have done.
So as we all feel that our intuition and intrinsic empathy with the way games are designed is far superior to knowing the answer I guess there is no need for me to ask. |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:32:36 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works?
It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps
Less so the ship bonus
I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible. |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 13:44:59 -
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Shailagh wrote:And yes. Everyone knows more than you loser idiot scumbag carebear. How much money do u make irl you poor. U fat?
Yes |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:07:03 -
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Shailagh wrote: Nevil no one here cares about you or your questions or what you think. Ill grief your faceoff.
Nevil sucks butt
Well done.. not that I want to put you off doing that but why don't you just read something else ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:14:04 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:
It's a local module. Local bonuses do not apply to remote effects. There, I changed the wording and it still means the same thing.
It's only relevant to reps , if a ship has a tracking bonus, it is just a tracking bonus it is not relative to how good your tracking computer is. |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:38:04 -
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Eve Solecist wrote: I have no idea what you're saying.
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I'm saying the shield boost amplifier is unique in it's method of applying it's effect
If your conclusion is based upon the pattern of how modules work and not first hand knowledge or evehas actually stated that somewhere then it is a hasty conclusion. |
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Posted - 2015.05.17 21:06:39 -
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Mag's wrote:It works this way... Does it though...... Yes..... Really?..... Yes...... Are you quite sure?....
It's more like
Does a cats always land on it's feet ?
No
Are You sure ?
Yes because dogs don't
Do you actually know ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.18 08:23:45 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:I'm honestly surprised Nevil hasn't been banned from the forums by this point. I can't think of a thread he's started that he hasn't intentionally derail.
I am the authority on all things Eve , you dare to question how I know it doesn't work on remote reps ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.18 09:07:20 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:No Nevil, NO!!!
I am the god of space |
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Posted - 2015.05.18 10:03:16 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:No Nevil, NO!!! I am the god of space again acting dumb...the answer to your OP is a NO!!!
And I am the god of space |
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Posted - 2015.05.19 19:20:46 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:There's local reps and remote reps, and bonuses for both. There is no bonus to receiving remote reps, only giving them.
So I always thought too, it's really only the one module that made me question that because amplifying remote reps seems a far more appropriate thing for it to do than amplifying local reps.
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Posted - 2015.05.20 20:06:51 -
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I'm more interested in how you know the answer than what the answer is because if a guess was good enough then I wouldn't bother asking. |
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Posted - 2015.05.21 06:44:08 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:
Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.
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I could, any of them use the forum ? |
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Posted - 2015.05.21 07:58:15 -
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Haatakan Reppola wrote:
If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
It's got nothing to do with trust
No one has said they have tested it. |
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Posted - 2015.05.22 12:07:19 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Haatakan Reppola wrote: If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
It's got nothing to do with trust No one has said they have tested it. The logic here: I can use scissors to shorten a rope! Thus if I move scissors, the distance left to walk also shortens! Yeah, a module that increases local shield boost amount will not change your remote shield transfers. If you doubt it, take my word that I slapped a SBA on a nid and it only affected my local tank.
OK seems you have used an SBA so that is a good start An SBA does only affects your local tank Incoming remote reps affect your local tank, Question was whether the bonus is applied to the incoming reps Is it 30% bonus ? I can't remember 20 30 40 somewhere in that region So the only way you could tell is if you have a known amount of remote reps Which I never have but it is possible a Logi pilot would tell you And then you realise that instead of 400 HP that the logi pilot said Hey wonders it gave me 500 So are you saying that is what you did ? Not sure I get the scissors analogy. but this is certainly isk for old rope. |
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Posted - 2015.05.22 19:03:08 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Makes me wonder who the real monster is.
XD
Very difficult to tell with so many double standards flying around
ChromeStriker wrote: how has this thread lasted 3 pages???? OP and anyone not sure. Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way. The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances. This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
Probably because no one actually said that |
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Posted - 2015.05.23 02:30:51 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:[:o
This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?
By who ? if you don't mind me asking
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Posted - 2015.05.23 05:55:39 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:
We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.
As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural. |
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Posted - 2015.05.24 04:51:42 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:
We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.
As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural. .
So that excludes the royal family and the constitution. |
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:43:36 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:
Happy now Nevil 'he-who-is-lazy-and-cannot-test-himself' Oscillator?
It's more to do with no one being interested enough to test it with me but..
Yes . . achieving what I intended to in starting this topic
Discussion is a wonderful concept, sometimes it even becomes a reality.
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