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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.10 15:07:00 -
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I have been following recent developments between the Gallente Federation and the Sukuuvestaa corporation closely and with some fleeting interest. I must say it gave me a good laugh when the production methods were made public, just think of those Gallentean kids dropping to yet another level of stupidity.
Now it seems as if Ishukone is entering the field, buying back what Protein Delicacies are left in the Federation, and taking a big loss because of this. Perhaps they would want to recoup some of that loss, and that is where our slaves come in.
At a very reduced price, slave owners within the Empire of Amarr could buy out the stocks Ishukone have standing of Protein Delicacies. This would be a fair trade, as we know our slaves will be fed a nutritous diet, and we are allready aware of the dubious production methods. A bit unfortunate, but at least we could now offer our slaves an improved diet at reduced costs.
If successful in nourishing our slave labor, even though I am prepared for our cultural and religious reprogramming to take a bit longer as a result, we could then approach Sukuuvestaa with offers to continually buy Protein Delicacies off their production lines at a cost which would be acceptable to both parties.
This would not only reaffirm our ties with the Caldari corporations, but also show that we are interested in keeping our slaves fit and healthy.
After all, it is the thought which counts, and should it net us a fine profit, all the better!
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2003.11.10 15:20:00 -
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So there are even lower levels you can go.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.10 15:45:00 -
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After all, it is the thought which counts, and should it net us a fine profit, all the better!
Practically the Ishukone motto.
Then again, they're the Caldari corporation most likely to back out of a business deal for moral reasons, and I do believe people would see this trade as a condolation of slavery.
Not much point in pulling a huge PR stunt like the buying back of the P. delicacies only to immediately involve yourself in what is essentially a PR nightmare...
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BigBanjo
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Posted - 2003.11.10 16:14:00 -
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Sounds verry interesting Gaius,
I'm always interested in healty slaves. This deal would also drop the feedingprices for slaves. What again means that i can buy even more slaves then planned.
Thank you for the great idea :)
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.10 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 10/11/2003 17:00:10
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So there are even lower levels you can go.
couldn'ta said it better myself.
PS: i know a whole BUNCHA (now) healthy (ex-)slaves who would KILL to get the chance to meet you. In fact, some do...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.10 17:06:00 -
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So there are even lower levels you can go.
Maybe you should go and join the other Minmatar 'freedom fighters' in Curse. Then at least we would know where to find you all 
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.10 18:34:00 -
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It's not food FOR slaves it's food FROM slaves. You left off the M.
Unless you mean it's for the Gallente and they should be enslaved.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.10 18:53:00 -
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Ah it is good to see some valid points brought up, open for discussion. However...
Minmatar. Since you are the main ingredient in this 'dish' I do not believe you are entitled to an opinion. Forget the threats as well, they are as hollow as your cranium. In advance, I thank you for your co-operation! :)
Beringe wrote:
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Then again, they're the Caldari corporation most likely to back out of a business deal for moral reasons, and I do believe people would see this trade as a condolation of slavery.
Not much point in pulling a huge PR stunt like the buying back of the P. delicacies only to immediately involve yourself in what is essentially a PR nightmare...
What you fail to see is the BIG picture. Ishukone have no means to abolish slavery, but they have the means to lighten up the day of a slave by treating him to a PD snack!
This could easily be seen as a way for Ishukone to help slaves improve their current conditions of living, and also in the spirit of our late Emperor Heidaran, a way to tie interstellar relations closer together.
Big Banjo wrote:
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I'm always interested in healty slaves. This deal would also drop the feedingprices for slaves. What again means that i can buy even more slaves then planned.
Another positive thing to be gained by improving our interstellar relations to the other races! I'm glad you appreciated my idea, sir.
Maud Dib wrote:
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It's not food FOR slaves it's food FROM slaves. You left off the M.
Unless you mean it's for the Gallente and they should be enslaved.
Oh I do not suggest we should enslave the Gallente Federation at this time, not by a long shot.
We are allready aware of some unfortunate minor details during the manufacturing process of the PD, but I again stress that the ends justifies the means!
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Methar Oberon
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Posted - 2003.11.11 01:00:00 -
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Well if we're talking about feeding these things to enslaved Minmatar, I think there is even a cheaper way to feed them. Now, I am whole-heartedly against the slave trade but I think there are gaps in the logic you Amarrians so often use. If they are simple animals, less than humans then should you not feed them as such? Dog food anyone?
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Posted - 2003.11.11 01:35:00 -
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DOGFOOD? are you out of your mind Gallente?
Who would feed these Minmatar dogfood, that is madness! You would waste precioius slaver nutrients to feed the slaves they are supposed to watch?
No this solution my brother in arms Gaius has proposed is far better. In limited testing I have seen that my slaves are more productive when they are given this food. Since I do not allow them any means of communication like some other misguided Amarr seem to allow they have no idea what they are eating and seem to hold the believe that my sudden change in dealing with them is a positive thing.
I find it very amusing to see these beast devour eachother and the waste they generate, I think the Amarr empire could greatly benefit with a partnership with Sukuuvestaa corporation we supply the waste and biomass that the slaves produce and they help us keep our beast healthy enough for their labour...
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.11.11 05:44:00 -
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Holy Emperor!
Now we know why the Gallente "like" Minmatar!
Yum yum!
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GFL Sisko
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Posted - 2003.11.11 12:07:00 -
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It's the caldari the produce this crap, and bewared ammarian scum soon u will be crushed.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.11 14:24:00 -
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Now now, what did I say about hollow threats? ;)
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Isiana
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Posted - 2003.11.11 15:02:00 -
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I have been following recent developments between the Gallente Federation and the Sukuuvestaa corporation closely and with some fleeting interest. I must say it gave me a good laugh when the production methods were made public, just think of those Gallentean kids dropping to yet another level of stupidity.
Now it seems as if Ishukone is entering the field, buying back what Protein Delicacies are left in the Federation, and taking a big loss because of this. Perhaps they would want to recoup some of that loss, and that is where our slaves come in.
At a very reduced price, slave owners within the Empire of Amarr could buy out the stocks Ishukone have standing of Protein Delicacies. This would be a fair trade, as we know our slaves will be fed a nutritous diet, and we are allready aware of the dubious production methods. A bit unfortunate, but at least we could now offer our slaves an improved diet at reduced costs.
If successful in nourishing our slave labor, even though I am prepared for our cultural and religious reprogramming to take a bit longer as a result, we could then approach Sukuuvestaa with offers to continually buy Protein Delicacies off their production lines at a cost which would be acceptable to both parties.
This would not only reaffirm our ties with the Caldari corporations, but also show that we are interested in keeping our slaves fit and healthy.
After all, it is the thought which counts, and should it net us a fine profit, all the better!
I think this is a Great idea, better then throwing away the "food". if accendently buy more food than your slaves can eat, i can always provide u with more slaves
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Ian Wagner
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:17:00 -
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You may wish to consider this move more carefully. If what the Federation is claiming is indeed true...
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The Federation is demanding both monetary reparations, as well as hi tech equipment, such as cyber implants, to aid those unfortunate enough to have succumbed to the brain diminishing side effects of Protein Delicacies.
any savings made by the use of Protein Delicacies may well be lost to increased training times and more extensive Vitoc use to maintain order.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:30:00 -
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There is still no demand at Ishukone stations. Protein Delicacies sell at Federal bases only.
The claims of the Federation are rather comical in this light: they demand implants and are still buying the product in bulk.
If I had slaves aboard my ships (which I don't - Amarrians are more motivated and the risk of terrorist insurgents is minimal) I wouldn't offer them those 'delicacies' anyways: I treat my slaves well as there is no point in wasting valuable resources. A trained worker cannot be replaced easily and mistreated slaves usually work at minimum performance levels. Dumb, drooling heaps of meat are actually not very usefull - unless you belong to the evergrowing group of Amarrians who 'use' their slaves to close hull-breaches only. I favor nanites for that task.
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 12/11/2003 16:45:50
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Minmatar. Since you are the main ingredient in this 'dish' I do not believe you are entitled to an opinion. Forget the threats as well, they are as hollow as your cranium. In advance, I thank you for your co-operation! :)
These are the kind of comments I think about everytime some Inquisitor starts spewing garbage about wanting to improve the Minmatar's lot in life by embracing the scriptures and assimilating themselves into the Empire.
No matter how stupid you think we are, we know better.
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Posted - 2003.11.12 17:25:00 -
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my brother in arms Gaius
your brothers in your arms thats just plain sick, no wonder the amarr empire is so imbred.
But what ever floats your boat
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:42:00 -
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If I had slaves aboard my ships (which I don't - Amarrians are more motivated and the risk of terrorist insurgents is minimal) I wouldn't offer them those 'delicacies' anyways: I treat my slaves well as there is no point in wasting valuable resources. A trained worker cannot be replaced easily and mistreated slaves usually work at minimum performance levels. Dumb, drooling heaps of meat are actually not very usefull - unless you belong to the evergrowing group of Amarrians who 'use' their slaves to close hull-breaches only. I favor nanites for that task.
I think you are missing the point here, Tharrn.
How much of an impact would PD's have on the intellect of your average slave? Not much, though I did note that our reprogramming schedules might take a bit longer due to their being fed the PD. Yet they would still be able to perform menial, and sometimes hazardous, tasks not seen fit to be performed by an Amarr. Better to risk a slave team repairing that reactor leak, than an Amarrian one.
Now I don't employ slaves aboard my vessels either, one exception being my Bestower class industrials. You fail to see the larger picture again, when you do not take the massive plantations and farming industries into account. Most certainly they would have much use of the PD's to keep their slaves well fed and useful, yes?
Another point is that feeding slaves PD's does not equal mistreated, quite the opposite.
I too treat my slaves well, in fact I am quite proud of the training programs I have created for their long term benefits.
I guess you should not assume too much, my friend.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.12 21:04:00 -
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I think its a fabulous idea, just let me know how much you need of it and I will bring it right to your doorstep.
I can even bring some slaves 
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.13 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 12/11/2003 16:45:50
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Minmatar. Since you are the main ingredient in this 'dish' I do not believe you are entitled to an opinion. Forget the threats as well, they are as hollow as your cranium. In advance, I thank you for your co-operation! :)
These are the kind of comments I think about everytime some Inquisitor starts spewing garbage about wanting to improve the Minmatar's lot in life by embracing the scriptures and assimilating themselves into the Empire.
No matter how stupid you think we are, we know better.
*chuckles*
Now now Asimir, wherever did you leave your sense of humour? Or are you mayhaps ticked off because, and I quote your fellow clown Bad Harlequin here; the joke is on you?
Judging by the amount of killing going on down in Curse, you lot could become a major supplier of 'ingredients' for the PD's. Or does your 'morals' prevent you from cashing in on your victims more than what you allready do?
Dear Lianhaun, we should have dinner someday, and discuss.. buisness ;)
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Merjan
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Posted - 2003.11.13 06:26:00 -
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Caldari is way of money and corporation.
When one corp screws something up it usually disapears into its mother-corporation, therefore buy-back of PD.
However my Amarr friends it is not Caldari way to envolve themselves in lost cause (your whole existance and this slave issue) and to lose money.
Knowing us Caldari you should start asking yourselves: "What have i ate today?" , as there is no way that we will waste all that biomass and since we can not sell it to Gallente anymore you are logical choice.
Anyway have a good appetite my Amarr friends.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.13 09:31:00 -
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Another point is that feeding slaves PD's does not equal mistreated, quite the opposite.
If you knowingly force them to eat Protein Delicacies that cause cerebral damage that does qualify as 'mistreat'.
Slaves need to be educated and shown the light of the scriptures. That is not achieved by making them hate us by adopting more amoral and decadent 'methods' day by day. If our ancestors had treated the Ni-Kunni the ways suggested here in the summit for the Minmatar over and over again they wouldn't have embraced the holy scriptures and our traditions becoming valuable members of our society.
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