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Soyemia Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:32:00 - [1] Are they going to get the so needed boost. You get em from market with build price. They are simply crap... Proud member of FIX. Hated on finnish channel. FIX lives \o/.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:36:00 - [2]
K'lash	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:37:00 - [3] So now we're wining because the ships are to cheap? These ships are great, i guess you are just doing something wrong.
weedmasta Minmatar	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:39:00 - [4] Originally by: K'lash So now we're wining because the ships are to cheap? These ships are great, i guess you are just doing something wrong. Indeed...
Wilfan Ret'nub Singularity.	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:57:00 - [5] Minnie recons are the wors solomobiles in the class. Price reflects that. They shine in gangs, though. Or paired with Gallente recon, but I haven't seen the last thing in person. ------ No ISK, no fun
Dexter Rast Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.11.14 19:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Dexter Rast on 14/11/2006 19:02:32 Originally by: Wilfan Ret'nub Minnie recons are the wors solomobiles in the class. Price reflects that. ever flown one.. with a statement like that, i guess not -------------------------------------------
Paigan Amarr Katsu Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.14 19:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Wilfan Ret'nub Minnie recons are the wors solomobiles in the class. Price reflects that. They shine in gangs, though. Or paired with Gallente recon, but I haven't seen the last thing in person. I have no problem with bad solomobiles. As eve is no solo game. The 2 Minnie recons are the best ship in game for certain situations (i won't mention them here :-P). -- This game is still in beta stage
Kyozoku Loot	Posted - 2006.11.14 19:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Segmentor Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.14 19:41:00 - [9] Soy, have you ever tried to doble-web someone at 60km? Try that. Think again. Besides, with coming Kali patch, Caldari and Minmatar will rule, while Amarr and Gallente will be the underdogs. Dont think they will give another boost to minnie or caldari, it would be totally ridiculous if they did that. ---
6Bagheera9 Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 19:42:00 - [10] Minmatar recons are an interceptor's worst nightmare and a raven's best friend. The ability to completely castrate any speedtanking ship from 60km and allow a raven to do full damage with rage torps is simply devestating in a gang. They are also one of the few reliable ways to kill a vagabond.

El Yatta Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:00:00 - [11] Hahahaha, how could anyone think the minnie recons are underpowered?? Fastest ship within 40km in the game, plus good firepower for a recon and great versatility. Enjoy them while the price is so delicious tbh. Solo and gang work they are a lot of fun. ---\|\|---
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:13:00 - [12] Hmmm... web + faction (26-28km) scram + damps... Yeah worthless.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:17:00 - [13] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/11/2006 20:18:26 Yes, because we all know that webbing and scrambling a ship from 28 km and making it not able to target you is worthless, since the ship doesnt have high dps as well! </irony> Seriously, the market only demonstrates how much focus there is on solo pvp ships. But im fine with them being cheap. Threads like these are not good for prices... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:19:00 - [14] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/11/2006 20:19:33 Last i checked marked curses werent too expensive either. Useless compared to... lets say - sacrilege? Dont think so :) (ok nvm... now i got irony ;p) As for huginns - im forcing a lot of minmatar specced pilots in the corp to train for them. They are excellent anti-vagabond platforms (was thinkign abt training for one myself - need only minimi cruiser 5).
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:28:00 - [15] Sadly, you need to spend 150m per web to get the magic 60km range. The majority of people will only ever experience 32km web range, which although good, isn't as handy as draining cap, scrambler and jamming the hell out of everything. Secondly, in a number of circumstances webbing a ship can make it virtually insta-warp. Combined with boosted inertia stabs and... Anyway, change the bonus to +10km web range per level instead (same for the Gallente ones with scramblers). That way we can have 60km/65km web range with Recon 5 (Fleeting/Domination webs). _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:31:00 - [16] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/11/2006 20:31:55 Originally by: Old Geeza Anyway, change the bonus to +10km web range per level instead (same for the Gallente ones with scramblers). That way we can have 60km/65km web range with Recon 5 (Fleeting/Domination webs). Huh? Next time if you talk abt arazu/lachesis check their bonuses. Typical scramble range is 36km (recons 4) AND to get magic 60km scramble range you need to spend... how much is domi disruptor nowadays?
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Old Geeza Anyway, change the bonus to +10km web range per level instead (same for the Gallente ones with scramblers). That way we can have 60km/65km web range with Recon 5 (Fleeting/Domination webs). Huh? Next time if you talk abt arazu/lachesis check their bonuses. Typical scramble range is 36km (recons 4) AND to get magic 60km scramble range you need to spend... how much is domi disruptor nowadays? I said the typical web range on the Minmatar recon was 32km. Not once did I mention the specific range of the Gallente recons except with maxed skills. Secondly, I said that the bonuses should be changed on both ships so they give 60km with Recon 5 and regular equipment (for Gallente recons this would mean +8km per level, for Minmatar recons it's +10km per level). With domination gear, that would give 65km web range and 70km scrambling range. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:43:00 - [18] Then i understood this one wrong: Anyway, change the bonus to +10km web range per level instead (same for the Gallente ones with scramblers). Nvtheless: no. You can already get 60km with domination (50% more than with t1) web and same with scramblers (t1 20km vs dominations 30km). Your idea would actually remove any point of buying better scrams and webs. 5km from 60 to 65 or 10km from 60 to 70 on web/scram respectively wouldnt be even worth 10more mil isk. And if you do this - why you forget abt curse? Nossing/neutralizing at 50km with t1 nosf would be cool.
Ezekial Crow Gallente Dark Star LTD	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Soyemia Are they going to get the so needed boost. You get em from market with build price. They are simply crap... Only when by its self, maybe if you had a few and a few Arazu/Lach you could stop the Vagabonds from roaming in Q. I my self will be training for on in the future.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:35:00 - [20] They're only crap because you fail at flying them. They're incredibly deadly, just not from a weaponry standpoint. They eat blasterboats, circling at 20km with a scrambler and a dual web. I'm getting one after my dictor finishes. ---------------------------- Please don't try to troll in your signature -Eldo([email protected]) I tried?

Imhotep Khem Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2006.11.15 11:01:00 - [21] Faction webber cost more than the ship itself. Let alone a pair of them. ____ "If your not dyin' your not tryin'." "Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?" DuGalle
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Old Geeza Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Old Geeza Anyway, change the bonus to +10km web range per level instead (same for the Gallente ones with scramblers). That way we can have 60km/65km web range with Recon 5 (Fleeting/Domination webs). Huh? Next time if you talk abt arazu/lachesis check their bonuses. Typical scramble range is 36km (recons 4) AND to get magic 60km scramble range you need to spend... how much is domi disruptor nowadays? I said the typical web range on the Minmatar recon was 32km. Not once did I mention the specific range of the Gallente recons except with maxed skills. Secondly, I said that the bonuses should be changed on both ships so they give 60km with Recon 5 and regular equipment (for Gallente recons this would mean +8km per level, for Minmatar recons it's +10km per level). With domination gear, that would give 65km web range and 70km scrambling range. If that was the bonus i think people would be using warp scramblers not warp disruptors
Wilfan Ret'nub Singularity.	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:58:00 - [23] Edited by: Wilfan Ret''nub on 15/11/2006 14:06:18 wtf, forum cloned my post. ------ No ISK, no fun
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:00:00 - [24] hmm i wonder if the op has a bpo for them. erm, yes their realllly rubbish. please dont change them i like their price thanks.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:10:00 - [25] Minnie recons are indeed the 'worst' recons because they dont absolutely wtfpwn in an obvious way. They wtfpwn when combined with other ships in certain ways, which is as good as or better than other recons. Not to metion theyre the only recon with a web bonus - so suck or not overall, they do something that nothing else (other than faction ships) can do. Scrapheap Challenge Forums
kessah Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:37:00 - [26] i must say these ships are not cheap to fit mebbie the most expensive recon to fit i would imagine ofc thats dependant on what you fit yours out like. Personally becus its generally not an EW boat i tend to put abit of a tank on mine and shield tanking mods are very expensive. Plus the 720's t2's are very overpriced atm. So imho i believe it matchs the pilgrim for cost since there 100m+ for the ship and relativly cheap to fit. The ship itself tho is excellent - combined with an arazu most targets are completly screwed. smacking as many of your low with dmg mods giving it a very high alpha you can generally pop a frig in 1-2 volleys if webbed. -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate 2
Jezala Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Jezala on 15/11/2006 18:59:23 I've found the Huggin to be excellent at nullifying blasterthrons, thoraxs, stabbers/vagas, autopests, and interceptors. It's simply pure evil when paired up with an interdictor, gallente recon, or Raven. The only problem with the minmatar recons is that they are a bit lacking on the defensive end considering that they don't have defensive EW like the Gallente and Caldari, nor do the Minmatars have the offensive capabilities like the Amarr. ...and yes, we do sell and deliver ammo. 425 Express Delivery is available upon request, please see Hans Gates and Marcus Grisbius regarding this option.
Mudkest	Posted - 2006.11.15 21:52:00 - [28] yes, mini recons are horrible, but dont fix them please, I like hainvg cheap t2 ships(that are really not horrible) - When talking about the itsy bitsy spider, try not to start with itchy, you'll get the second part wrong as well
Stella Centauri Spontaneous Defenestration	Posted - 2006.11.18 03:08:00 - [29] Originally by: kessah i must say these ships are not cheap to fit mebbie the most expensive recon to fit i would imagine ofc thats dependant on what you fit yours out like. Personally becus its generally not an EW boat i tend to put abit of a tank on mine and shield tanking mods are very expensive. Plus the 720's t2's are very overpriced atm. So imho i believe it matchs the pilgrim for cost since there 100m+ for the ship and relativly cheap to fit. The ship itself tho is excellent - combined with an arazu most targets are completly screwed. smacking as many of your low with dmg mods giving it a very high alpha you can generally pop a frig in 1-2 volleys if webbed. Lies! They arent good with arazus! Now lower the arazu-price!


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