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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.16 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Laboratus IIRC both the ISD and the SSD have the crusial weakness of having poor geometry and poorly placed turrets. They can't shoot if you hover on the mouth of the fighter bay or behind the command bridge (or only 2 turrets here IIRC, quite easy to target and destry been too long). Anyways, It's kinda embarrasing that you can quite easily destroy em both with a single fighter (the SSD however can do a full 180 degree turn in about a minute. Think about the Gs that affect the crewmen in the front part of the ship... And yes you it had a lame invul that made it impossible to shoot down that last 1% or so.). Played too much, yes.
Dude, where the heck were it's escorts? what happened to the squadrens of fighters in it's bays? Saying a Capital ship is weak becuase It has a small blind spot in it's anti starfighter defenses, that should never even activate becuase it has got the hanger to support 10(?) squadrens of fighters is ludicrous.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Twilight Moon on 16/11/2006 16:02:59
Originally by: Tar om GSV Sleeper Service > *
:)
Seconded. Any Culture ship would pwn tbh. GSV's would be like a Freighter mixed with a Mothership, Mixed with a Dread, mixed with a few Faction BS's, and finally mixed up with a liberal sprinkling of the best officer gear available.
Edit: ...with Jovian style shields. 
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Erik Pathfinder
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla
lol, glad to see someone is still using that thing ---------------
"Run free little vermin, the city is yours!" - Quimby Creator of The Correct Dread(tm) sig |

Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:45:00 -
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no offense, really:
after the first star wars comment, this turned into the most nerdy discussion for a long time 
two thumbs up
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:04:00 -
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SDF-1 Macross
Main Reflex Cannon > Capital Weapons
 --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |

Aterna
Minmatar M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:26:00 -
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Deathstar Superlaser > SDF-1 Macross Main Cannon
And yeah, 12 squadrons of TIEs would easily counter the blind spots vs small ships.
Some poor bastard took the time to calculate the amount of firepower it would take to destroy a planet instantly. 10^29 Joules of energy. Ouch?
Death Star's Firepower - - -
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Cale Nearing
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:38:00 -
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Once again, though, Culture GSVs just win. Opening wormholes to wherever you want and depositing virtually unlimited amounts of anti-matter through them is pretty much an I-win button.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cale Nearing Once again, though, Culture GSVs just win. Opening wormholes to wherever you want and depositing virtually unlimited amounts of anti-matter through them is pretty much an I-win button.
Not as cool though as an Imperial fleet I am afraid.
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Prophaniti013
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:17:00 -
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Retribution class BS from warhammer 40k>> Imp. Star Destroyer
srry just had to get that out
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Cale Nearing
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:18:00 -
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The Nova Cannon doesn't really compare to the Death Star's Super Laser, though.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:21:00 -
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This thread is so off topic it hurts  -----------------------------------------------
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Prophaniti013
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:21:00 -
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I would think...as far as i can tell, that if a nova cannon can put a crater the size of a moon onto a planet, couldnt it core a ISD? theres also the macro cannons, gotta love those puppies .
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.11.16 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
Originally by: Aterna Mmm...108 high slots ftw.. (the number of turbolaser batteries an ISD II has)
Probly liquefy a titan in a few salvos...
How long is a dreadnought? ISD II is 1.6km long, Executor SSD is 12km long.
Apoc is supposed to be about 3km long I believe, which would put most of the dreads in the 6-8 area (obviously naglfar bucks the trend somewhat ;p)
Titans in theory in the 30-40km long area.
actually a phoenix is about 3km long...
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aterna Deathstar Superlaser > SDF-1 Macross Main Cannon
And yeah, 12 squadrons of TIEs would easily counter the blind spots vs small ships.
Some poor bastard took the time to calculate the amount of firepower it would take to destroy a planet instantly. 10^29 Joules of energy. Ouch?
Death Star's Firepower
True, but the Death Star can't Space-fold. Veritechs own TIEs too.
I love it when we just nerd all over the place. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |

Jacob Majestic
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla
You rang?
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Frezik
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Laboratus IIRC both the ISD and the SSD have the crusial weakness of having poor geometry and poorly placed turrets. They can't shoot if you hover on the mouth of the fighter bay or behind the command bridge (or only 2 turrets here IIRC, quite easy to target and destry been too long). Anyways, It's kinda embarrasing that you can quite easily destroy em both with a single fighter (the SSD however can do a full 180 degree turn in about a minute. Think about the Gs that affect the crewmen in the front part of the ship... And yes you it had a lame invul that made it impossible to shoot down that last 1% or so.). Played too much, yes.
Dude, where the heck were it's escorts? what happened to the squadrens of fighters in it's bays? Saying a Capital ship is weak becuase It has a small blind spot in it's anti starfighter defenses, that should never even activate becuase it has got the hanger to support 10(?) squadrens of fighters is ludicrous.
IIRC, 6 TIE Fighter, 5 TIE Bombers, 3 TIE Intercepters, 1 Assult Gunboat. There are 12 ships/squad. But my memory could be hazy.
In the old 'X-Wing' game, you could easily stick around after your main mission objectives were done and pwn an ISD's entire fighter complement. That game was really hard, but not because the AI was anything special. (It was hard mostly because you had a limited timespan to accomplish some of your mission objectives, such as ships getting away, ships getting destroyed, etc.).
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.16 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
Originally by: Aterna Mmm...108 high slots ftw.. (the number of turbolaser batteries an ISD II has)
Probly liquefy a titan in a few salvos...
How long is a dreadnought? ISD II is 1.6km long, Executor SSD is 12km long.
Apoc is supposed to be about 3km long I believe, which would put most of the dreads in the 6-8 area (obviously naglfar bucks the trend somewhat ;p)
Titans in theory in the 30-40km long area.
actually a phoenix is about 3km long...
From what i have seen with my tactical overview, it looks like roughly 8-10km.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.11.16 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
Originally by: Aterna Mmm...108 high slots ftw.. (the number of turbolaser batteries an ISD II has)
Probly liquefy a titan in a few salvos...
How long is a dreadnought? ISD II is 1.6km long, Executor SSD is 12km long.
Apoc is supposed to be about 3km long I believe, which would put most of the dreads in the 6-8 area (obviously naglfar bucks the trend somewhat ;p)
Titans in theory in the 30-40km long area.
actually a phoenix is about 3km long...
From what i have seen with my tactical overview, it looks like roughly 8-10km.
well there's these lovely comparison pic's which compare the phoenix to be about 3km long hehe
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:45:00 -
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You mean the link above? whats to say the the eve-ship comparison is accurately scaled to the other ship comparison? It looks like it was attached just to fit vertically. All believe what I see ingame anyday to that.
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Nhoj Sllew
Amarr Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:00:00 -
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http://theforce.net/swtc/index.html
for all the hardcore SW peoples go there. the guy who made it eventually got hired as a consultant for lucasarts.
SW ships>Pretty much any other universes (Titans included)
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TJ Balboa
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: TJ Balboa on 17/11/2006 01:03:07 Edited by: TJ Balboa on 17/11/2006 01:02:52 Ideon > Deathstar
Quote: Ideon's destructive power reaches godlike status when three distinct weapons are discovered.
Black Hole Cannon, which as the name implies, creates a miniature black hole capable of massive destruction. So much so that the cannon devastates half the surface of an entire planet upon its initial use. While devastating, this is only the tip of the iceberg as this is Ideon's least powerful super weapon.
Discovered next is the Ideon's powerful Ideon Sword, a palm emitted beam of pure light which may be used as a sword. While the beam's destructive power is immense, its most peculiar quality is its length. While adjustable, the maximum length of the sword is depicted as being quite possibly infinite.
However, none of the Ideon's weapons can compare to the awesome destructive power of the infamous Ideon Gun, infamous due to the distinction of being quite possibly one of the most devastating attacks in anime history. A massive blue cannon constructed during the Solo Ship's brief stay on a moon base based off of plans uncovered on the ship, the Gun is directly powered by the Ideon's Ide energy to produce an enormous white wave of energy which destroys literally anything in its path, including starships, planets, and perhaps even galaxies. This cannon's initial use is so awesome, that it is treated as almost a bittersweet moment as the crew of both the Ideon and the Solo Ship truly begin to realize the frightening power they've uncovered.
A total contrast to its humble first foray, the Ideon's capability is nothing short of awe inspiring as well as a little scary. At one point in the series, for instance, the Ideon uses Ideon Sword to cut an entire planet in half when the Ideon's pilot Cosmo is so enraged by the inhabitant's violent execution of a beloved crew member that he retaliates with lethal force. This level of destructive power is akin to only a few other giant robots in anime, such as that of the Gunbuster series, although it can be argued when considering that the Ideon is able to battle nearly an entire planet's military force, not to mention Ideon's apocalyptic ending that its title of "Most powerful Giant Robot" is unchallenged.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla
Eeeewwww.....EM damage. 
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nhoj Sllew http://theforce.net/swtc/index.html
for all the hardcore SW peoples go there. the guy who made it eventually got hired as a consultant for lucasarts.
SW ships>Pretty much any other universes (Titans included)
Star Trek TOS ships can engage from over 10,000km away, while at warp (See "Balance of Terror")...  --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Luka Terrlo
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:41:00 -
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Fifth Element battleships ftw. They should make one for EVE. They look very Caldari, and also they're torpedo boats!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.17 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aterna Mmm...108 high slots ftw.. (the number of turbolaser batteries an ISD II has)
Probly liquefy a titan in a few salvos...
How long is a dreadnought? ISD II is 1.6km long, Executor SSD is 12km long.
Revelation is 3 or 4 km long iirc. Titans are over 15km.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Kashre
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.17 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kashre on 17/11/2006 04:17:54 Anyone ever read David Weber? Dahak wins :P
On topic: The correct dread will forever and always be the one which can generate the greatest DPS vs the weakest resist of the POS being engaged. For the sake of damage + flexiblity it is still the Naglefar, followed by the Phoenix. The moros is too ugly to be considered and my contract states that I must declare all amarr ships to be crap at all times. +++
"Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa |
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