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Anna CO	Posted - 2006.11.16 05:57:00 - [1] around 7mil SP pilot, ratting sansha with geddon with laser guns. have mechanic skills at 4/5 (special skills to) cap skills at 4/5. bs skill at 4 large guns at 4 rate my ratting geddon pls 6x dual heavy pulse I 1x mwd 1x web 1x cap recharger 1x large armor rep 1x heat sink 2x hardener 4x capacitor power relay high slots. tryed mega pulse weapons but my cap runs out pretty quick if using both guns and tank. have never been ratting against 0.0 rats before so i dont know if i will do enough damage to take them down fast before i run of cap to hold my tank. med slots. how is it? do i need a mwd and a web? my thougth was to be able to get in range of any BS that are orbiting me to fare for my pulses. Web to help my drones to kill cruisers and frigs. low slots. lots of cap modules to keep my cap up so i can run tank and guns at the same time. would love some comments. and tips! thanks
Elerie Dana Paxton Industries	Posted - 2006.11.16 07:10:00 - [2] Hello, I would say that your setup could use a little improvement. I have 9 mil but am a jack of all trades so probably less in pure combat than you. My geddon setup for 0.0 was: High 7 Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Lasers (I used standard crystals to cut down cap use) 1 Heavy Nos or Tractor Beam Mids 1 100 AB II 2 Eutectic Cap Rechargers Low 1 Lar II 1 1600 mm Rolled Tungston 3 Hardners (1 EM and 2 Therm for Sansha) 1 CPR 1 EANM II 1 Targeting Computer II / Heat Sink II Drone Bay 3 Heavy Drones and 2 Med Drones for 1 group 1 Med Drone and 4 Lights for 2nd group I found this tank as well as the firepower I had was plenty to take on the 950k Sansha BS I was facing. It's not perfect but it worked well for me. It will not run everything forever but I never needed it to. Hope this helps. Wives ? Girlfriends ? what are they , they fit in a high-slot or something ? Your wallet = ISK Wives/girlfriends = raven with 8 nos that only works on your wallet.
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.16 08:57:00 - [3] Edited by: ZelRox on 16/11/2006 08:59:34 I use dual heavy beams on geddon for some extra range. The ROF isnt THAT much different. You cant use mwd when ratting, your cap gets reduced. And less cap = less armor repair cycles. Use med slot for cap recharge items. Fit best named \ t2 rechargers (although very expensive). The low slot setup mentioned in the post above is quite good. I would drop the heat sink or energized membrane, and add another medium armor repairer. Sometimes, 1 large wont do, especially when you find 3 of the higher end battleships. Train drone skills, you only need light drones to get rid of those pesky frigs, and geddon has a quite large dronebay. If you use beams, you wont need speed booster :) wich will say 1 extra cap recharger, more cap, less possibility of dying :) ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Svavz Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.16 09:02:00 - [4] Train bs 5 and all the engineering stuff to 5, then you can fit megas and tank no prob Biggest black and death metal fan in iceland
Anna CO	Posted - 2006.11.16 14:58:00 - [5] Thanks for your answers. a few questions that i wonder about. 1. If using Pulse lasers, do i need a Afterburner or Microwarpdrive to be able to get in range of the rats that decide to orbit me out of my weapon range? 2. How important is a web on a BS? Do i need that if i have my drone bay full with medium and small drones? (not trained heavy drones). 3. Finaly rate my new setup! Armageddon Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Empty Slot Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Large Armor Repairer II N-Type EM Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I 4375 shield, 5.47/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/40/60 10841 armor, E/T/K/Ex=80/67/25/20 5100.0 cap, +68.27/s, -65.542/s 150.0 m/s 278.0 DPS When activating all my modules in quickfit my cap levels out at 35-48% and stays there forever (waited 600seconds)
Papermate's Slave	Posted - 2006.11.16 15:20:00 - [6] ok this is what you should fit: 7 Megapulse with ALL CRYSTALS FOR EVERYRANGE 3 cap rechargers II 1 Large armor repairer II 1 medium armor repairer II 1 EM hardener 2 Thermal hardeners 2 cap relay 1 heat sink II Light and medium drones for frigates/cruisers.
Anna CO	Posted - 2006.11.16 15:43:00 - [7] thanks now i have a setup that works and give me good cap and tank and damage. but also want to learn something out of it. how to think etc. still my questions above and the last setup, what was wrong with that about the ammo, ofcourse use take with me all types to change depending on range.
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 16:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Anna CO Thanks for your answers. a few questions that i wonder about. 1. If using Pulse lasers, do i need a Afterburner or Microwarpdrive to be able to get in range of the rats that decide to orbit me out of my weapon range? 2. How important is a web on a BS? Do i need that if i have my drone bay full with medium and small drones? (not trained heavy drones). 3. Finaly rate my new setup! Armageddon Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Pulse Laser I [1xMultifrequency L] Empty Slot Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Large Armor Repairer II N-Type EM Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I When activating all my modules in quickfit my cap levels out at 35-48% and stays there forever (waited 600seconds) I put in bold the parts that imho need changing. Try this, if you can: 7 Named Mega Pulse (they don't cost a lot, they use less cap and hit harder/farther) 1 tractor beam 1 100MN afterburner (not strictly necessary, but very usefull for those BS that like to stay at 40km) 1 named web (last time I looked, you could find X-5 webs at 700k) 1 Fb-10 cap recharger 1 large armor repairer II 1 Em hardener II (5% more resists = large rep activated less often = more cap) 2 Thermal hardners II 3 cap power relays 1 heat sink II you cap should be fine with that, provided that you use your AB only to close on range for your weapons. If cap still worry you then, switch to Gamma lenses. The web will only be usefull against cruisers. webbing a frig won't make medium drones hit it better (in fact I think they'll hit more often a frig when it's not webbified). try to get your hands on hammerheads II: when you have those, you can easily replace the web by another cap recharger, and then a cap relay for a second heat sink. ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.
Thoris Levithar Gallente Gadget Factory	Posted - 2006.11.16 16:12:00 - [9] Originally by: Anna CO a few questions that i wonder about. 1. If using Pulse lasers, do i need a Afterburner or Microwarpdrive to be able to get in range of the rats that decide to orbit me out of my weapon range? 2. How important is a web on a BS? Do i need that if i have my drone bay full with medium and small drones? (not trained heavy drones)... I use my Armageddon only for missions, and my (bs & gun) skills are only moderate, but from my experience: 1) An AB can't hurt, a MWD is probably overkill (and will make fitting the ship harder). Pulse lasers are great for short to medium range. You just have to step down and drop those multifreq crystals (and you'll notice the saved cap!). Seriously, try gamma or even ultraviolet, and you can easily shoot targets 20-25km away. If they're further, the AB is plenty enough to reach them. For smaller targets that want to stay away, use your drones :) 2) I have a web on my Geddon, but I really find that I don't use it much. Mostly because I use ultraviolet and gamma crystals often, so I start shooting way before I get into web range, and try to stay at my optimal range. Perhaps a tracking comp (or target painter?) would be more helpful.
Anna CO	Posted - 2006.11.16 18:18:00 - [10] Armageddon Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I [1xMultifrequency L] Empty Slot LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Large Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Heat Sink I Infiltrator I Infiltrator I Infiltrator I Infiltrator I Infiltrator I 4375 shield, 5.47/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/40/60 6641 armor, E/T/K/Ex=90/70/25/20 5100.0 cap, +45.2/s, -86.574/s 318.75 m/s 330.3 DPS This setup will kill my cap way faster. Sure i have a AB that i wont use all the time and more tank so i dont need to use the armor rep all the time. (yes i have the other crystals also) this setup do more damage and it have a web and a AB in the mid slots. i am currently in empire so before i travel all the way out to 0.0 i want to be done with this setup. web is that needed? ab is that needed? hmm bring a few more cap rechargers out and maybe change and se how it goes... but atleast i think i have something that i will use and hopefully be happy over. thanks

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