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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:20:29 -
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I use both the launcher and evefile.exe (multiple symlinks) to launch multiple clients (faster for me). Now I have to use the launcher to launch each client (more typing, more clicking).
See below.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/launching-the-game-from-exefile.exe-will-no-longer-be-supported/
I really do not like this.
rip evefile.exe
Yaay!!!!
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
978
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:22:45 -
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why, CCP, WHY OH WHY?!?
I hated your launcher from the first day on because its another piece of useless program which takes time loading.
Never used it, always despised it apart of updating the client.
Why do you have to bug us constantly with all different kinds of things, needlessly?!
your launcher is annoying and I was happy not having to use it!
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
637
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:23:36 -
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To all the people who repeatedly said "Use the exe file if the launcher isn't working right" when I, and others, reported issues with it -
Ahem.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH whoooooooo HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
How do you like me now bitches?
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Paranoid Loyd
5422
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:25:19 -
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This is hilarious, but not in a good way. 
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
88
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:26:01 -
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R.I.P. evefile.exe
o7
"I can make billions using my mouth ...
... and sometimes when I talk, too" --- Solecist Project
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
441
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:30:01 -
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Oops ...CCP should be prepared then to improve the launcher's QoS quickly ..
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8685
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:30:06 -
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I don't really care much one way or the other.
However, I was just this morning wondering when the next tearnado would sweep into GD. I guess I found the answer.
Duck and cover, people!
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:32:52 -
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Below is a press release about hires textures coming this year. |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
685
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:34:35 -
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meh my launcher doesnt even load 83.7% of the time, oh well eve is dying
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Kira Talfase
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:36:15 -
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Dear CCP,
Have you lost your minds!?
At least you are letting me know early enough to have a fire sale. You haven't fixed your launcher in years, sticky threads with links to empty pages, same issues had by multiple people for weeks, months, and the same canned responses for over two years in some cases. Now you plan to take away the only method proven to allow them to play? That's absurd. I'm very disappointed to say the least. |
Kaaeliaa
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
75902
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:37:15 -
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Getting in on the ground floor of this incoming threadnaught.
Can't say I've ever had problems with the launcher, but I sure as heck don't want to be forced to use it. It's completely unnecessary.
You can't fill your cup until you empty all it has
You can't understand what lays ahead if you don't understand the past
You'll never learn to fly now 'til you're standing at the cliff
And you can't truly love until you've given up on it
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
968
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:39:03 -
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The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1610
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:39:32 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:This is hilarious, but not in a good way. Should be good for pitchfork sales.
Who put the goat in there?
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Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
185
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:40:14 -
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I did exactly what was linked and replaced the .exe file and was able to log right in with no trouble after all the time of messing around using the .exe file, thanks CCP for the work-a-round. |
Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
0
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:40:25 -
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I, for one, am happy that logging in will now take 4x longer than it currently does. |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
687
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:41:22 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.
hope so because your launcher is terrible and you should just fix it or remove it, an access point to a game is bad if it doesnt work
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
185
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:41:43 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.
Thanks CCP Logibro, be looking for that next week. 07
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
13182
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:41:59 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
49
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:48:05 -
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I'll just be over here sharpening my pitchfork for the inevitable sh*t storm this going to cause.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
964
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:50:09 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.
RIP announcement DOA
http://i.imgur.com/p5d4goN.pn
I'm right behind you
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Paranoid Loyd
5423
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:53:47 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:This is hilarious, but not in a good way. Should be good for pitchfork sales.
Indeed, guess I shouldn't pass up this marketing opportunity.
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"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
5736
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:54:00 -
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Dominous Nolen wrote:I'll just be over here sharpening my pitchfork for the inevitable sh*t storm this going to cause.
Just to repeat CCP Logibro's previous statement: logging into EVE via the exefile.exe will still work after the Carnyx release as long as the exefile has been updated to the correct version (which might involve a few manual steps in some cases).
Please continue to be patient a little more while we compile the proper information and instructions.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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Favonius85
House Aratus
Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:56:30 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:I'll just be over here sharpening my pitchfork for the inevitable sh*t storm this going to cause. Just to repeat CCP Logibro's previous statement: logging into EVE via the exefile.exe will still work after the Carnyx release as long as the exefile has been updated to the correct version (which might involve a few manual steps in some cases). Please continue to be patient a little more while we compile the proper information and instructions.
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Kerena Alabel
Star Forge Manufacturing INC
New Eden Rainbow Alliance
31
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:02:34 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:I'll just be over here sharpening my pitchfork for the inevitable sh*t storm this going to cause. Just to repeat CCP Logibro's previous statement: logging into EVE via the exefile.exe will still work after the Carnyx release as long as the exefile has been updated to the correct version (which might involve a few manual steps in some cases). Please continue to be patient a little more while we compile the proper information and instructions.
But I already bought a T3 pitchfork... |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
89
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:04:14 -
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CCP Phantom wrote: (which might involve a few manual steps in some cases).
Or I donGÇÖt know you could maybe do it all on your end so youGÇÖre paying customers donGÇÖt hate you more than they already do over this **** way to announce changes no one wantsGǪ.. |
Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
49
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:09:04 -
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Alundil wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.
We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week. RIP announcement DOA http://i.imgur.com/p5d4goN.png
That was the fastest I've seen an article get removed. went to link it for corp mates and *poof* it was gone.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
969
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:10:13 -
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Please see this news article for details on what is happening with the Carnyx release: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/update-using-repair-tool-may-fail
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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EmceeW
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
0
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:10:27 -
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"With Carnyx coming to Tranquility it will no longer be possible to launch EVE Online using the exefile.exe file from EVE/bin/ folder. If you are using this method due to the issue with your launcher where PLAY button remains gray after downloading an update, please pay close attention to the information provided in this article.
If you still have other issues launching the game, please contact our Customer Support team."
There is absolutely ZERO excuse for an article like this to be announced by your staff without some kind of approval. You have to know by now that a vast majority of your remaining player base hates the launcher. It's clunky, buggy, doesn't always work as intended and has unintuitive layouts and commands. Basically it is the worst game launcher in comparison to the rest of the market and I'm including Origin in that list and it's absolute crap.
If you want your player base to use your launcher then you need to make it work as intended. You're so good about listening to community feedback that it baffles me that nothing has been done in this area. People have been whining about it since its inception with several people giving good and constructive feedback.
To just be clich+¬ enough CCPlease :/
P.S. ; THIS http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/update-using-repair-tool-may-fail?_ga=1.238414981.448403328.1426770409
Is NOTHING like the original post and now I have even more questions as to what the hell is going on in your offices. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Brave Collective
1781
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:21:08 -
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I have no issue with CCP forcing players to patch things using their launcher instead of the repair tool...
But I hope you never remove the possibility to launch the game through the .exe, its so much simpler, faster, reliable... And convenient if you're using simlinks and the like.
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DaReaper
Net 7
2112
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:28:00 -
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Altrue wrote:I have no issue with CCP forcing players to patch things using their launcher instead of the repair tool...
But I hope you never remove the possibility to launch the game through the .exe, its so much simpler, faster, reliable... And convenient if you're using simlinks and the like.
oh they will. My gues sis eventually the aluncher will add valk and possibly legion to it. so you will use that to pick which game you want. But the launcher has a LONG way to go before that happens
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8602
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:28:03 -
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If I use launcher, I have to wait 1min 14 s to see character screen.
Using exe it was 36 s to see it. less than half minute of my life watching black screen. If you want people to use launcher and be thankfull for it, it have to be something like 40 s optimal logon time, and without grayed out buttons, "offlining" launchers and other "I am almost having a fun time" experiences.
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
641
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:32:42 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:The exefile will still work with the next patch.We'll be republishing a news article soon to clarify what is actually happening with the patch next week.UPDATE: See this news item for details.
Why are you ruining my I told you sos Bro?!
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1340
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:51:58 -
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We are going to have to come up with a "launcher improvement committee" to fix the issues with the launcher and improve its viability. Evefile.exe does bypass the improved security measures that CCP is trying to implement, and they will have to disable it eventually. If I had the flexibility of deploying multiple Eve clients through a single launcher click, I would.
Just about every modern mmo uses a launcher. Just about everybody hates them. It hits harder for us because we typically use multiple clients. there is also the ddos issues, grey button issue, broken launcher issue, slow patch issue, it running issue, etc.
Pitchfork away for now.
Yaay!!!!
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Whiskey Wagon
Applied Ignorance
0
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:00:44 -
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Damage done. I think I'm finished paying money to be trolled by CCP. I can get that for free elsewhere on the internet. |
DaReaper
Net 7
2112
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:01:16 -
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I use the launcher for my 4 clients, i don;t really have many issues. but the slowness of it, is rather annoying. Esp on first log in. I do like that i cna easily alt with the launcher, as long as my last login was the account i want to alt.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
14444
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:01:32 -
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I welcome this (pardon my upcoming language) ******* change - IF! you actually implement a way to keep separate settings folders/stores!
/c
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DaReaper
Net 7
2112
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:02:14 -
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Whiskey Wagon wrote:Damage done. I think I'm finished paying money to be trolled by CCP. I can get that for free elsewhere on the internet.
if thats the case, i'll be happy to take your stuff, just contract it to me i'll keep it safe for you =)
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Sturmwolke
646
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:13:14 -
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Needs a tactical nukelar arty instead of pitchfork if they went ahead with it.
The Scylla DoD changes has inherent issues that I don't think they will ever resolve ... just like the wonderful launcher.
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Seven Koskanaiken
Positive Failure
Black Legion.
1517
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:32:29 -
[39] - Quote
Backpeddling V |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
277
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:34:31 -
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Aww yiss. Motha fuckin tears! 
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SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
277
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:35:59 -
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Whiskey Wagon wrote:Damage done. I think I'm finished paying money to be trolled by CCP. I can get that for free elsewhere on the internet.
Ok you are really exaggerating here.
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Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
49
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Posted - 2015.05.29 18:24:07 -
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Side note seeing as we are talking launcher/login stuff...
Can we maybe get a switch character option so instead of fully quitting out of the client we can just quickly switch back to character selection screen for efficiency sake?
This is EVE, Not Hello Kitty: Island Adventure
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Ransu Asanari
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
231
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Posted - 2015.05.29 18:31:17 -
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So if the outrage from even the mention of the exefile login being removed is any indication- CCP you need to put a LOT more attention to improving and fixing the launcher before you even think about removing the workaround. I know the article has been pulled already and clarified, but look at this as an opportunity to see the feedback on how happy we are with the Launcher in its current state (hint: we're not).
- Auto downloads and applies patches without having to restart the launcher after downtime for it to figure out there is an update.
- Error codes that actually make sense to humans - as opposed to THIS (what is that, a CD key??). I don't even want to know what caused it to do THIS (actually I do)
- Not having the Username/Password login window just be MISSING while the rest of the launcher animations load.
- Being able to deal with a DNS resolution issue and fallback to IP address - using the exefile is a frequent workaround to this issue during a temporary routing issue or region specific DDOS.
- Increasing the performance speed of the launcher so it doesn't take so long to load up or switch accounts.
- If you're using a VPN or frequently changing IP address, the IP Verification step comes up every time you put in the password incorrectly, and even if it does log in properly, it doesn't remember the IP address and will ask you to verify the character name again the next time. Putting in the Character name just boots you back to the login username/password screen, so it's useless anyway.
Quote:If you continue to experience issues with attempting to update your EVE Online client, please contact Customer Support and file a ticket under Technical Support -> Installation and Patching.
What is the expected priority and turnaround for response if we are having problems with the Launcher? In USTZ?
Because I've logged BUGS (EBR-35979) and just had them closed and ignored, when the launcher looks like THIS.
Am I going to be able to get actual troubleshooting done with the GMs in a timely manner? Take a look at THIS thread and answer if I will get actual cause and resolution within 2 weeks, or just a canned response linking to the article on how to reinstall the launcher?
TLDR: The launcher needs more functionality, resilience, and supportability before you even think about taking away the exe. And that's not even talking about 2-Factor Authentication yet.
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union - "Turning Lead into Gold since 2008"
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6212
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Posted - 2015.05.29 18:31:50 -
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I use neither the launcher nor the exe file to launch EVE (just the launcher to update), sof pfft, who cares.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2285
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Posted - 2015.05.29 18:39:30 -
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As far as I can see, as long as you only use the launcher to update, stuff should still work as it has for the past 2 years, or however long there has been a launcher. |
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CCP Falcon
11599
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Posted - 2015.05.29 18:47:19 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that.
As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication.
No pitchforks please >_<
<3
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
164
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:01:50 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
So was the E.T.A. on the Skins DevBlog a screwup or not? |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
402
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:10:58 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
As someone who launches the Launcher updating and then closing it, and then launching 4 clients from the evefile.exe (stored in the same location, but referenced through 4 different symlinks) so that I don't have to reposition the screen every time, http://imgur.com/5AIMHWg
I like to have account 1 on the bottom Left Screen, account 2 on the Top Left Screen, account 3 on the Top Right Screen, account 4 on the Bottom Right Screen.
Now the above being said, If CCP ever changes the screen position changes to be remembered per account, instead of per install location, I might actually consider using the launcher to actually launch the game. |
Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
49
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:27:34 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
Thanks Falcon
<3
*puts away pitchfork*
This is EVE, Not Hello Kitty: Island Adventure
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Ransu Asanari
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
Mordus Angels
232
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:35:54 -
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Keeping my pitchfork until I actually see some Launcher improvements/fixes on the horizon as a result of this shitstorm.
Might shop for some new ones here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pitchforkemporium
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union - "Turning Lead into Gold since 2008"
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Paranoid Loyd
5436
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:54:34 -
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How to know when you are definitely ******* up, Chribba curses:
Chribba wrote:I welcome this (pardon my upcoming language) ******* change - IF! you actually implement a way to keep separate settings folders/stores!
Until you do, I couldn't care less about your 2FA changes. You screwing up my two-digit settings for a fail 2FA is not worth it. I survived 12 years without so I will survive another year or so until you sort things out.
also edit/did you even consult CSM in this case?! I think at least a few would have raised a few concern about this change...
/c
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Mag's
the united
19513
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:05:52 -
[52] - Quote
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3 So was the E.T.A. on the Skins DevBlog a screwup or not? Well if they called it an E.T.A. I would consider that to mean Estimated Time of Arrival. Hope that helps.
Now leaving you with posting privileges, well, most think that's long over due.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:35:28 -
[53] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing the old .exe go if the launcher was actually useful. Unfortunately, however, even after several years it still proves to be overtly cumbersome and clumsy, and I'm somewhat baffled as to why it was never streamlined. Even the simple process of switching accounts on the new launcher is an arduous process.
Are there any plans to address the glaring issues with the new launcher in the near future? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8602
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:39:29 -
[54] - Quote
Dominous Nolen wrote:Side note seeing as we are talking launcher/login stuff...
Can we maybe get a switch character option so instead of fully quitting out of the client we can just quickly switch back to the character selection screen for efficiency sake?
Impossible.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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Beanard
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
7
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:41:33 -
[55] - Quote
Launcher has never worked for me since I started playing again a couple of weeks ago.
I should not have to download another file, delete a directory and install something. You should fix your launcher. it has been crap since it was introduced.
Guess I will wait to extend sub or start another account till I see how this works out. |
Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
18
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:34:00 -
[56] - Quote
I like how the dev jumps in early to calm the masses.
- All incoming connection attempts are being blocked. If you want to speak to me you will find me either in Hek local, you can create a contract or make a thread about it in General Discussions. I will call you back. -
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Thirdsin
Intergalactic Fight Club
Gentlemen's.Club
6
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:33:16 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
Point of record, the 'community' didn't misunderstand a god damn thing (best read in the voice of Samuel L Jackson for effect). It was pretty clear what was stated, thus ragecage '15 over this. Unless you're referring to CSMs?
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Imalia Bloodlines
Friendly Empire Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:43:28 -
[58] - Quote
Jesus Christ, if repair fails then do this. If luncher fails do this, if all fails contact support and hope for miracle. Are you that incapable of producing a way to LAUNCH your flagship title without users having to go though Hell itself? |
Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:07:25 -
[59] - Quote
Jesus Christ ........ Hell........
You have a weird interpretation of hell.
- All incoming connection attempts are being blocked. If you want to speak to me you will find me either in Hek local, you can create a contract or make a thread about it in General Discussions. I will call you back. -
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
491
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:36:42 -
[60] - Quote
Removed a post.
Quote:Forum rules8. Use of profanity is prohibited.The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
ISD Supogo
Lieutenant Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:45:33 -
[61] - Quote
www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/37q65t/eve_news_launching_the_game_from_exefileexe_will/
lol top post ...
- All incoming connection attempts are being blocked. If you want to speak to me you will find me either in Hek local, you can create a contract or make a thread about it in General Discussions. I will call you back. -
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Lykouleon
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
1598
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:13:49 -
[62] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:No pitchforks please >_<
I am late to this party, so I'm now infuriated and demand attention and some form of violent retribution!
*equips pitchfork*
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
352
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:07:10 -
[63] - Quote
Typical CCP sense of priorities : Their launcher is a piece of ****, tons of people have problems with it. What do they do ? They forbid us to use the only way to launch the game when the launcher bugs.
Well done CCP.
What about fixing the launcher instead ? Are you really forced to do everything possible to disgust your customers ? Does anyone in your company actually THINK sometimes ?
Against all imperialism
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.05.30 06:35:58 -
[64] - Quote
[Tao Dolcino wrote:Typical CCP sense of priorities : Their launcher is a piece of ****, tons of people have problems with it. What do they do ? They forbid us to use the only way to launch the game when the launcher bugs.
Well done CCP.
What about fixing the launcher instead ? Are you really forced to do everything possible to disgust your customers ? Does anyone in your company actually THINK sometimes ? Man I thought you exposed yourself in the other thread already, but this tops it.
Gotta ask your CEO if he accidentially didn't check your IQ.
- All incoming connection attempts are being blocked. If you want to speak to me you will find me either in Hek local, you can create a contract or make a thread about it in General Discussions. I will call you back. -
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Orm Magnustat
Red Serpent Industries
13
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Posted - 2015.05.30 07:55:03 -
[65] - Quote
Beanard wrote:Launcher has never worked for me since I started playing again a couple of weeks ago.
I should not have to download another file, delete a directory and install something. You should fix your launcher. it has been crap since it was introduced.
Guess I will wait to extend sub or start another account till I see how this works out.
Dear CCP devs (and perhaps even more management) , just read the above customer feedback another time - cause its as simple as true!
If anybody in your team thinks its a good idea to tell the customers to fiddle with this or that file/directory/install some extra fixing tool/etc. pp he should be removed very fast from CCP staff . Cause this kind of approach is hurting your bottom line for real.
Ever cared to think why the big successfull internet companies care so much about ease of access and idiot proof, intuitive procedures (like 1-click-buy and stuff)?
Ofc EVE isnt amazon... its a niche game - but loosing customers and business should be of even more concern then, shouldn't it?
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Nimrodion
Xanthium Prime
49
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Posted - 2015.05.30 09:10:48 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Care to comment on why the contradictory information was released in the first place?
I say this as someone who has the launcher fail on them many, many times, and someone who relies on the exe file on a regular basis.
Yeah, this was a misunderstanding between Community, Customer Support and Development, and my team ended up putting out inaccurate messaging based on that. As you can see in this news item, it's been clarified now. I'll be the first to admit when we screw up, so apologies for the miscommunication. No pitchforks please >_< <3
Woke up and the first thing I see is this thread..it was THIS close to pitchforks :)
Seriously now, I understand that unifying all logins via launcher is your long term goal, but with people with an unstable connection, such as me, for whom it's imperative to get back in game ASAP after a DC, the exefile still provides the most stable solution. It also helps when managing multiple clients with different client settings for different accounts. |
Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
352
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Posted - 2015.05.30 11:07:44 -
[67] - Quote
Ok, they don't do it for now, but i am sure they won't give up with this idea.
I can bet my shirt on what has happened :
A bright mind in the commercial department (the only ones who have any decisional power nowadays) has found out that it would be cool if they could force us to watch their advertising on the launcher, in hope to sell moar. Any other consideration (technical problems, customers satisfaction...) has of course not touched his/her brain.
CCP, we don't pay 15 Gé¼/$ a month to stay stucked in front of a defective launcher, waiting for a technical service to help us or having to study computers engineering to try fixing it by ourselves. We don't trust you to give us in a reasonable delay a trustworthy launcher. We want to keep a workaround, just in case.
So please forget your damn advertising and gadgets and fix your stuff.
Greed is good 
Against all imperialism
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Sarmatiko
1685
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Posted - 2015.05.30 12:04:47 -
[68] - Quote
I also nearly stopped using launcher after two-factor authentication implementation - I had to input my character names every day because of dynamic IP (and "remember this computer" thingie remembers nothing). So I switched to custom powershell script, and probably wont go back until CCP sort out two important things with the launcher:
* get rid of external web-based interface bloated with useless marketing stuff (use damn in-game notifications for that stuff)
* add "save password" and "remember this network" options (with settings page in account management)
TL;DR: CCP make your launcher SIMPLE (e.g. Guild Wars 2 launcher)
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1344
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Posted - 2015.05.30 12:21:28 -
[69] - Quote
I'm going to be very cinical right now. Imagine that the reason for disabling evefile.exe wasn't a security reason, but a monetary one...
Because the eve in game store does not work unless you use the launcher...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349658&find=unread
But CCP aren't the evil &$:&:$ I am implying. They wouldn't do that and force people to use the launcher just because they want people to blow cash in their valuable store..
Of course not...
I... Like.... CCP...........
Yaay!!!!
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Samir Duran Xadi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:37:49 -
[70] - Quote
The new launcher seems to be working well, kind of like the current one until they broke it. |
Ticondrius
Void Regulation
26
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:43:14 -
[71] - Quote
Solstice Punk, with that avatar, all I see is Kefka (Final Fantasy 6)
Linkage |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
166
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:30:34 -
[72] - Quote
Tao Dolcino wrote:Ok, they don't do it for now, but i am sure they won't give up with this idea. I can bet my shirt on what has happened : A bright mind in the commercial department (the only ones who have any decisional power nowadays) has found out that it would be cool if they could force us to watch their advertising on the launcher, in hope to sell moar. Any other consideration (technical problems, customers satisfaction...) has of course not touched his/her brain. CCP, we don't pay 15 Gé¼/$ a month to stay stucked in front of a defective launcher, waiting for a technical service to help us or having to study computers engineering to try fixing it by ourselves. We don't trust you to give us in a reasonable delay a trustworthy launcher. We want to keep a workaround, just in case. So please forget your damn advertising and gadgets and fix your stuff. Greed is good
Good thought, possible yet here is the real answer....
AUR NES STORE.
Can you access the NES store to spend money on skins and shirts and skirts from evefile.exe??? NO!
For some reason ccp made it so to be able to access the NES store you need to use the launcher, hense why they have been slowly trying to get us to use the broken launcher.
Its really simple. If we dont use launcher, we cant access NES store to spend AUR and buy skirts and skins |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1344
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:59:32 -
[73] - Quote
Yea pretty much.
Even so, evefile.exe isn't secure. The launcher sucks. Fix the launcher so we don't need to use evefile.exe and we won't care.
Yaay!!!!
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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
DARKNESS.
76
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:14:38 -
[74] - Quote
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Its really simple. If we dont use launcher, we cant access NES store to spend AUR and buy skirts and skins
Quote for the real true!
I will keep my pitchfork and battle againt the "greed is good" mentality.
And I have alts.. and friends... and so on.
Best post ever!
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1344
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:17:46 -
[75] - Quote
Castelo Selva wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Its really simple. If we dont use launcher, we cant access NES store to spend AUR and buy skirts and skins Quote for the real true! I will keep my pitchfork and battle againt the "greed is good" mentality. And I have alts.. and friends... and so on.
Again.. So what.
Now I use and like evefile.exe (hell I started the thread), but if CCP can get the launcher to work so I don't have to use evefile.exe, all the better.
Hell I might even buy a fraking skin if they get the launcher working as a viable replacement to evefile.exe.
Yaay!!!!
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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
DARKNESS.
76
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:48:34 -
[76] - Quote
Phoenix Jones wrote:Again.. So what.
Well mate, let-¦s me rephrase it: the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ is, in fact, BAD!
IF (emphasis on the IF) they fix the launcher, with is a good thing, and I can assure you that everyone will be happy. *fireworks*
However, no, do not get eluded, they will only forbidden the use of the .exe because of NEX Store, with in fact are the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ mentality.
And that is it.. We will have to deal with that (no work around and broken launcher) because we like the game.. but in the end, things will only get worst and worst..
I really wish I am wrong, but I am playing eve for 3865 days (I am not lying), and that long experience point me to this harsh reality.
Castelo
PS: That why I will keep my pitchfork.
Best post ever!
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:15:11 -
[77] - Quote
I'm just adding my vote that CCP NOT take away the ability to launch via the exefile.
I have a script that starts the launcher if Eve is not running to see if there are any updates, but then launches my dual/multi account setup automatically. It's a time saver that allows me to keep separate account settings. I hope they don't eliminate exefile launch unless they facilitate multi-account startup capability in the launcher. |
Hicksimus
Xion Limited
Resonance.
628
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:18:57 -
[78] - Quote
The responses in this thread confirm that the launcher is a useless piece of ****.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1350
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:43:00 -
[79] - Quote
Castelo Selva wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Again.. So what. Well mate, let-¦s me rephrase it: the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ is, in fact, BAD! IF (emphasis on the IF) they fix the launcher, with is a good thing, and I can assure you that everyone will be happy. *fireworks* However, no, do not get eluded, they will only forbidden the use of the .exe because of NEX Store, with in fact are the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ mentality. And that is it.. We will have to deal with that (no work around and broken launcher) because we like the game.. but in the end, things will only get worst and worst.. I really wish I am wrong, but I am playing eve for 3865 days (I am not lying), and that long experience point me to this harsh reality. Castelo PS: That why I will keep my pitchfork.
I want CCP and Eve to be successful. If that means they have to boost their revenue through their store. Fine. This isn't monocle gate (there is stuff in their people actually want).
Now we have all used evefile.exe as a backwater way of starting the client. If functions but it is a bypass to both their own marketing store, as well as the security protocol they've setup. If they can enhance the launcher to support multiple clients launching at the same time, great.
If they support the damn thing so it functions without stupid grey bars, 10 minute patch checks, etc etc, great.
I would want them to fix that crap before they decide to disable evefile.exe starting.....
But it'll have to happen if they want the basic functionality of the client even starting to work.
The launcher is windows 8, it sucks. Evefile.exe is windows xp. They want to end windows xp support to move to windows 8 and were pissed. I am too, but I have no expectation for them to keep supporting a antiquated way of logging into the game. I want them to fix the fking launcher.
Yaay!!!!
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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
DARKNESS.
77
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:45:02 -
[80] - Quote
Phoenix Jones wrote:[I want CCP and Eve to be successful.
Mate, I agree with you. We all want CCP to make the game better. The game (EVE), and consequently the Company (CCP), survive until now not because of NEX Store, but because of us, the players.
However, some time ago the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ mentality arise. As I say before, I consider that mentality bad, pernicious to the game itself. Do you know why? Because the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ mentality do not care about the players or the game, it only care about the money, and that is bad.
What almost happens here (the remove of exe boot) was a sign of that mentality. The GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ do not care about fixing the launcher. That is the problem!
Let me tell you, I am not against the Nex Store itself, since they keep the promises of only sell the cosmetics stuffs. I am not against the 2FA either. I think all are good stuffs. The game is excellent stuff. I like almost every Dev (signature hint), they want to make the game even better. The Devs have my vote of trust.
The peoples I do not like are the ones with the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ mentality. I can assure you that was one of them who almost force the cut of exe workaround. Unfortunately, looks like that these folks with that mentality are in important position inside the company. This is a concerning point.
In the end, we (the players) cannot let the game suffer from that mentality. We have to make a monocle gate scandal when we see things like that. If we say nothing the game will slowing die. I want the game to be better and better.
Nevertheless, as you can see, regrettably, I suffer from bittervetness and for me, look like that the GÇ£greed is goodGÇ¥ people are winning. I will stick to the game until the day the server get shut down, but in the present days I have very low faith in the CCP directors. The Company, and consequently EVE do not die yet because we love the game. But looks like that the directors are prioritizing money above all. They are neglecting the most important thing: US, the player base.
What almost happens is the tip of the iceberg, and we cannot let that iceberg crash on us!
To finish, I will keep my pitchfork against any move that I judge pernicious to the player base or the game itself. I will battle until the end.
Castelo
Best post ever!
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
2511
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:00:57 -
[81] - Quote
If CCP wants to sell more accounts, they should make it easier to launch more then one account. Save password, settings, make shortcuts per character, etc. Might want to add 'switch char' to it.
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1351
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:43:52 -
[82] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:If CCP wants to sell more accounts, they should make it easier to launch more then one account. Save password, settings, make shortcuts per character, etc. Might want to add 'switch char' to it.
Pretty much. It is work, but if they want to "sell, sell, sell", they'll have to commit to the work.
Prep it, stage it, get the people's approval of it, fix the server it is on (to stop those gnarly ddos attacks).
If All I had to do was click 1 button, and launch all my accounts simultaneously, I would do that and I would not bother with evefile.exe.
Barring issues with the launcher actually.. well launching.
Yaay!!!!
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Sturmwolke
646
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Posted - 2015.06.02 06:39:35 -
[83] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:If CCP wants to sell more accounts, they should make it easier to launch more then one account. Save password, settings, make shortcuts per character, etc. Might want to add 'switch char' to it.
You actually don't want to put this idea into their minds because it will seriously backfire.
CCP will over-engineer anything and everything. Generating complex and easily breakable solutions over simple problems.
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Screamish Mayaki
The League of Extraordinary Industrials
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:39:53 -
[84] - Quote
<3 |
Natasha Arnemen
Mount N' Do
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:11:24 -
[85] - Quote
Seriously CCP stop devolpping the game with your feet, stop making it more and more complicated.
Each update is a nightmare (Eve online.exe stopped working ...)
Instead of adding craps(oh cool new overview cause you think it s more intuitive..baaahh!) , just focus on major issue such as the contract system which is screwed since some days now!!and all the "We have to work on it but nevermind lets add more content to the game :D" |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
463
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:18:30 -
[86] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:This is hilarious, but not in a good way. Should be good for pitchfork sales. Indeed, guess I shouldn't pass up this marketing opportunity. ANGRY AT CCP? WANT TO JOIN THE MOB? WE'VE GOT YOU COVERED! COME ON DOWN TO LOYD's PITCHFORK EMPORIUM! WE'VE GOT 'EM ALL! Traditional ---E Left Handed 3--- Fancy ---{ Halal ---+¦ ---+¡ Kosher +æ--- +¢--- WE EVEN HAVE DISCOUNTED CLEARANCE FORKS! ---F ---L ---e NEW IN STOCK. DIRECTLY FROM LICHTENSTEIN. EUROPEAN MODELS! ---Gé¼ ----ú HAPPY LYNCHING! *some assembly required
Sell me the BPO, Loyd. 
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
Nullsec Ore Changes - Lowend Mineral Price Tracking [2015]
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
25381
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Posted - 2015.06.03 01:58:41 -
[87] - Quote
Some nice people linked these two programs in a reddit thread I started about the why the launcher didn't remember our passwords:
https://github.com/Frostbite/rlel
rlel (yes I hate this acronym too) is a replacement for the CCP launcher that supports launching both Tranquility and Singularity clients, as well as keeping those clients up to date automagically
https://github.com/SpeedProg/PveLauncher
better alternative with TwoFactor Authentification
Warning: I haven't tried these with Carnyx (today's expansion) yet. I've tried rlel with the previous launcher with no issue. Use at your own risk!
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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