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Khan Soriano
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.16 20:34:00 -
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Devs please, please don't nerf Harbinger. I know Hurricane/Drake lovers will demand to drag everything down because of their sorrow but THEIR ships really needed that.
Harbinger is different. In these dark times for Amarr pilots its the light that shines and gives us hope.
Now finally we have something bigger than a cruiser (Arbitrator) that has some versatility. We can gank it, tank it, anyway we want and with the new cap boost I think we should be able to maintain our guns for a while WITHOUT cap boosters. This gives us, lone pilots, one med slot for something else to try on so that we don't have to start every setup with 'ok cap booster is on what else with my 2 med slots'
Also with the cap changes our Amarr lobby will investigate the Abaddon case once again
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.11.16 21:22:00 -
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/me fits two nos to his Hurricane =P
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2006.11.16 21:46:00 -
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After testing it out for a while. (not used it in pvp yet) I must say i love it.
No cap boosters? Are you mad sir? 
IT doesn't NEED to use them which is very nice indeed but i personally will stick with them because it allows some very nice setups such as:
7x Heavy modulated pulses
1xweb
1xscram
1xcap booster with 800's
1xMWD
1xhs2
1xMAR2
2xEANM2's
2xNF's
Will sustain everything with some good cap management and orbits very well.
Anyway yes, I like the lil fella alot atm i must admit.
The Abbadon seems okay from my testing thus far aswell. It seems from my preliminary testing that they have managed to achieve their goal of making it a gank OR tank. The cap will just about sustain either one or the other. Admitedly i was once again using cap boosters though.
I would like to point out however that my cap skills are not quite perfect and i didnt try that hard to make it sustainable via passive regen.
All in all, in my opinion, its looking a bit brighter for amarr then most people thought to begin with. But, ofcourse, things must still be tested.
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Khan Soriano
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Yoshimako
No cap boosters? Are you mad sir?
I'm just saying we now have a possibility not to fit them
Glad to hear Abaddon is better, can't wait to take it for a spin myself.
Curious thing about your setup is quite the gank you put there, how long can u sustain that under lets say Hurricanes 2 NOS?
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:59:00 -
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i think with rigs it could be a good ship
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meppa
Black Omega Security
The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:05:00 -
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Amarr lobby researched abaddon and it still suck :P Also while investigating it noticed that cap modules don't have any effect. Cap drain on beam lasers is so big that only amount of cap matters without some reduction on their cap use. You will be able to fire 50% longer (50% more cap). Mayby if capasitor batteries would get huge boost you could increase the operational time long enough without using 8 cap booster 800 to kill enemy bs (without tanking).
On hardbinger, i love it ;) Shame that it will get nerfed soon enough :(
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Deva Blackfire
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:10:00 -
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Harbinger is same thing for all other BCs as geddon is for BSes... nuff said. Insane damage, very weak tank (while others like drake can still deal decent damage and tank pretty well - like raven for ex).
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Khan Soriano
Devs please, please don't nerf Harbinger. I know Hurricane/Drake lovers will demand to drag everything down because of their sorrow but THEIR ships really needed that.
Yes-yes. We need that. Drake was too overpowered. It had dps more than Myrmidon! So now everything is ok, Drake(tier 2 BC) has dps at the Caracal level. And everybody knows how dangerous is Caracal.
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Asariasha
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.17 00:50:00 -
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No, lets please nerf the other tier2 BC, too. Lets just take
a turret hardpoint away of Harbinger and Myrm and change their
bonuses into 5%mining yield and lets say 10%remote armor repair
range. Sorry guys, but Amarr and Gallente players whined the most
of Drake and Hurricane, so i think they should get what they
deserve....nerf nerf nerf
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Brazero
Amarr
Noble House
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Asariasha
No, lets please nerf the other tier2 BC, too. Lets just take
a turret hardpoint away of Harbinger and Myrm and change their
bonuses into 5%mining yield and lets say 10%remote armor repair
range. Sorry guys, but Amarr and Gallente players whined the most
of Drake and Hurricane, so i think they should get what they
deserve....nerf nerf nerf
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Khan Soriano
Originally by: Yoshimako
No cap boosters? Are you mad sir?
I'm just saying we now have a possibility not to fit them
Glad to hear Abaddon is better, can't wait to take it for a spin myself.
Curious thing about your setup is quite the gank you put there, how long can u sustain that under lets say Hurricanes 2 NOS?
Every setup has a counter fgs. Yes NOS will hurt that setup, but this can stay outside of NOS range if you're clever and still do damage.
I personally would use that setup, its quite fun. I only posted it here to show that with the slot layout we have to possibility of running some 'out of the box' setups rather then the same old setups churned out over and over.
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Spaced Skunk
Yesodic Nomads Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:15:00 -
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Harbinger looks good, if it could fit 7 heavy pulse II and a decent tank I would be a bit worried, but it cant, at least I dont think it can anyway.
And it doesnt make prophecy inferior 
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Spaced Skunk
Harbinger looks good, if it could fit 7 heavy pulse II and a decent tank I would be a bit worried, but it cant, at least I dont think it can anyway.
And it doesnt make prophecy inferior
Technically yes it can. It will never ever come close to sustaining it tho.
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