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virm pasuul
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:12:55 -
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I was doing a little salvaging with my noctis and noticed the primae ship variant.
What on earth is this ship for?
It appears to have no ship traits which makes it almost unique in that regard. Two weird holds, one just for PI command centres, and another just for PI products, although so small if you are using it for this purpose then you are doing PI wrong.
The ship looks like a relic from a bye gone age of Eve.
It's a special edition ship, that serves no purpose, but didn't get converted to a skin.
Is it just one of those old relics that is there to remind us of days gone past, or an unloved forgotten artefact sitting dust covered on a back room shelf perchance to be discovered by future generations one day?
It's also missing from the in game Interbus Ship Identification System which makes me think it really has been forgotten. It could be a stealth ship :)
I get the Prima Nocta gag, but to be half of a gag seems to be the ship's greatest purpose. |
Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
50
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:18:09 -
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it was a gift given when PI went live, but after that gallente industrisl got rebalanced with one having a big pi hold. Now its no more than a relic.
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virm pasuul
Viziam
Amarr Empire
296
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:29:14 -
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Thanks for the info. I thought it might be something like that.
They are pretty cheap so I bought a few just in case they do decide to do something with them.
Very weird ship though, I bet most of CCP has forgotten it even exists.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
1134
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:35:07 -
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Primea should be repurposed as a deep space PI collection vessle. Able to fit a covert ops cloak and a sizeable PI hold. In its current state the ships is not even next to useless, it IS useless.
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virm pasuul
Viziam
Amarr Empire
296
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:39:45 -
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at the moment it's only purpose appears to be half of a joke, it's not even a whole joke on it's own :) |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:55:01 -
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well pi ship king is epithal at the moment. it defeats primae with pi hold capacity. primae can hold two command centers for installing them at planets. but ship itself is good to collect |
virm pasuul
Viziam
Amarr Empire
296
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:56:11 -
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I like the idea of giving the ship a purpose and with Fozzie sov making 0.0 a lot more dangerous it could very easily find a niche for helping PIers in 0.0 mitigate the new higher risk, however there's a problem.
Being a give away ship there is no way to manufacture more. It would have to be converted from a special edition to a standard ship that could be manufactured. Under normal circumstances this would upset current owners of the special ship because converting a ship from limited quantity status to manufacturable normally causes the price to go down. However these things are currently on the market for 7-8 mill each whilst the useful Noctis is worth 10 times that on the market. So a conversion from junk to useful wouldn't hurt existing holders.
I even tried to see if they could be reprocessed into minerals worth more than their buy price but they appear to have no reprocess list of materials. |
Lucy Lopez
Low Frequency
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:13:56 -
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Its primary use is as bait in scam Noctis contracts. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31558
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:18:29 -
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"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
667
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Posted - 2015.05.31 15:09:05 -
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Show some respect to the shipmodel that was so different, and therefor alone appreciated, it gave rise to a new ship. If it wasn't for this PI relic, the Noctis might have looked awefull. |
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stoicfaux
5682
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Posted - 2015.05.31 15:47:54 -
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Wasn't the Primae the first model to have moving parts? (The boom/ring around the center rotates.)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31559
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Posted - 2015.05.31 16:48:19 -
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You know what the Primae always needed, the color scheme of a Thanksgiving turkey.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
734
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:02:07 -
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Its main purpose is to look cool while not doing a lot  |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
8106
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:03:14 -
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Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex.
As is the case for most other "special edition ships."
Remember the Zepher?
Echelon?
Apothesis shuttle?
Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts.
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Max Singularity
House Singularity
156
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Posted - 2015.05.31 18:30:17 -
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The Primae is like Jamyl Sarum, both relics of a bygone era.
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Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:37:36 -
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its purpose is to require next to no skills to start PI when they first introduced PI. If you look at the reqs any one can fly them. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
479
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:56:53 -
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The Primae was never a good ship. It wasn't good when it was added, and it's not good now. But it was free. Would be nice if they buffed all the gift ships to be something nice, but I doubt it.. I mean the Zepher has it's uses, but the rest don't. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
4929
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Posted - 2015.05.31 22:59:50 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:The Primae was never a good ship. It wasn't good when it was added, and it's not good now. But it was free. Would be nice if they buffed all the gift ships to be something nice, but I doubt it.. I mean the Zepher has it's uses, but the rest don't.
I think everyone is missing the point of the ship.
It allowed people on trial accounts to do PI, since they couldn't use an Industrial for the large volume command center. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31562
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Posted - 2015.06.01 00:34:08 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex. As is the case for most other "special edition ships." Remember the Zepher? Echelon? Apothesis shuttle? Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts.
Yeah I remember those because I bothered to keep all the othe--what the **** is an Echelon
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Snagletooth Johnson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
246
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Posted - 2015.06.01 00:57:28 -
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The primiae is the primier ship spiner. Only Eleet ship spinners have access to this superior model of whilry whirl design. It' was made with superior side areodynamics that make it spinner faster and more accuractly then any other ship in Eve. |
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Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc.
157
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:34:07 -
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Rain6637 wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex. As is the case for most other "special edition ships." Remember the Zepher? Echelon? Apothesis shuttle? Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts. Yeah I remember those because I bothered to keep all the othe--what the **** is an Echelon
uhh the zephyr is ABSOLUTELY not useless
if you live in a wormhole they are a must have |
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc.
157
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:35:30 -
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Rain6637 wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex. As is the case for most other "special edition ships." Remember the Zepher? Echelon? Apothesis shuttle? Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts. Yeah I remember those because I bothered to keep all the othe--what the **** is an Echelon
echelon came with a fancy module that did funny things if you fiddled with it |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
4930
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Posted - 2015.06.01 05:24:22 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Yeah I remember those because I bothered to keep all the othe--what the **** is an Echelon
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
479
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Posted - 2015.06.01 06:57:57 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:The Primae was never a good ship. It wasn't good when it was added, and it's not good now. But it was free. Would be nice if they buffed all the gift ships to be something nice, but I doubt it.. I mean the Zepher has it's uses, but the rest don't. I think everyone is missing the point of the ship. It allowed people on trial accounts to do PI, since they couldn't use an Industrial for the large volume command center.
It takes Industrial I to fly an Iteron Series.. So if you did so much as 20minutes of the training missions, you had the skills.
No, it was added as just some eye candy with with features to make you think, but no piratical purpose.. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
4930
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:05:39 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:The Primae was never a good ship. It wasn't good when it was added, and it's not good now. But it was free. Would be nice if they buffed all the gift ships to be something nice, but I doubt it.. I mean the Zepher has it's uses, but the rest don't. I think everyone is missing the point of the ship. It allowed people on trial accounts to do PI, since they couldn't use an Industrial for the large volume command center. It takes Industrial I to fly an Iteron Series.. So if you did so much as 20minutes of the training missions, you had the skills. No, it was added as just some eye candy with with features to make you think, but no piratical purpose..
Trial accounts couldn't train any racial Industrial.
Despite the current state of trial account limitations, it was definitely the case back when the Primae was released (changed in Phoebe 1.0, Nov 4, 2014).
Patch NOtes for Phoebe 1.0 wrote:The following skills which were restricted for trial accounts are now unrestricted:
* Amarr Industrial
* Caldari Industrial
* Gallente Industrial
* Minmatar industrial |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
479
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Posted - 2015.06.01 16:05:46 -
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Trial Accounts don't have the skills to do PI worth a damn anyway. |
Mel Kallestad
4
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:18:29 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Primea should be repurposed as a deep space PI collection vessle. Able to fit a covert ops cloak and a sizeable PI hold. In its current state the ships is not even next to useless, it IS useless.
This is how I would like it, I looked at the Primea as a ship for PI, but noticed the others and just laughed... A 10-20k hold with cov-ops would be sexy. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
4199
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:45:26 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex. As is the case for most other "special edition ships." Remember the Zepher? Echelon? Apothesis shuttle? Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts.
The Zephyr is actually useful for setting up warpins at sleeper sight because it has pod-level aggro immunity to sleepers.
Echelon is the only ship capable of fitting the most powerful data analyzer in the game. It just doesn't have the probes to find them.
The Primae tho was only ever for trail accounts. Even before the rebalance to the iterons, it was just as easy to use any other damn hauler to do your PI with. The ONLY people that had any benefit from its existence were trial accounts that couldn't use industrials, but now even that restriction has been removed so the Primae has no purpose at all now.
HOWEVER
it's a decent scam ship, when you sell a Primae to someone telling them it's a Noctis :P
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
403803
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:52:46 -
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Potamus Jenkins wrote:Rain6637 wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Rain6637 wrote:"Every other ship does the Primae's job better than the Primae" - Saraell Tellon, 2012
That is the only entry on "Primae" in my brain rolodex. As is the case for most other "special edition ships." Remember the Zepher? Echelon? Apothesis shuttle? Some gifts are going to be useless. But they are still gifts. Yeah I remember those because I bothered to keep all the othe--what the **** is an Echelon echelon came with a fancy module that did funny things if you fiddled with it
If you reprocessed the analyzer that came with it you ended up with an head in a jar.
-k8
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
4931
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Posted - 2015.06.02 00:29:49 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:Potamus Jenkins wrote:echelon came with a fancy module that did funny things if you fiddled with it If you reprocessed the analyzer that came with it you ended up with an head in a jar.
Whenever CCP mentions "brain in a box", this is the sort of thing I think of, not some abstract coding project. |
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