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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.11.17 05:55:00 -
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Stealth what now?
there not really stealthy, neither can the bomb anything other than frigates.
they've been given a minor pg increase lol...
what they really need...
torpedo launchers instead of cruise missile launchers.
the ablity to warp cloacked.
the ablity to fire when cloacked. (with a passive targeter II)
with the mass of seige launchers and the low propulsion strength making the stealth bombers extremely slow and unmanoeuvrable. (eg vunrible to frigs) and increasing the instablity of there cloak (eg, they need 10km birth making them once again vunrible to fast moving targets.)
or something in a similar direction...
The fact that the nemisis has only 2 missile hardpoint also ****es me off no end.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:01:00 -
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๔the ablity to fire when cloacked. (with a passive targeter II)๖
As good as that sounds it would be far to overpowered. SB would be able to beat everything. An alternative would be to fire then not decloak until 20 or 30seconds later but staying cloaked would not work.
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Black Stiletto
Amarr
Total Mayhem.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:10:00 -
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What about making it very difficult to target once de-cloaked. Perhaps forcing the target to get within say 20km of the SB before it could be locked on?
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Ejderdisi
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:13:00 -
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Play with SB as much as possible before Kali. Because after that u'll see u cant even own a frigate(t1 it is) in 1 volley (hp boost). So your 40-50mil frig class / semi stealth bomber will be uber useless solo. In gang ppl will cry out why didnt u bring a covertops so dont bother :P
Maybe a missile velocity bonus and a missile flight time reduction (to make missiles to have same range as now)for faster cloaking after attack might help.
But wait!!!
I have a new idea use Large Artillery with sig radious on guns on Stealh bombers. Insta damage. u can attack and get cloaked. Then when next round ready decloack , lock attack, cloak. A menace to big ships to force them to break formation. Can hit inties and disturb them because they wont get max speed before first shoot (after that u cant hit **** without tracking) , u can hit stationary all targets and hurt them pretty bad but probably u wont kill **** thing(but also u may get wrecking hits so its more better chance based).
And U'll be still not overpowered all alone.
I should make a post about this!!!
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Black Stiletto
What about making it very difficult to target once de-cloaked. Perhaps forcing the target to get within say 20km of the SB before it could be locked on?
wouldn't matter 
my ranis has a locking range of 24km (not much more than your proposed range) ... so far i have killed 3 or 4 SBs with it and still waiting to get killed by one 
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:19:00 -
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the whole concept was rubbish to begin with tbh. they were brought about through player demand in the first place if im not mistaken.
why bombers when all eves other ships are....ships?
too much upgrade and they will be overpowered. pg boost was needed simply to fit modules , like covert ops. they are probably better than they were now IF they can fit everything.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:42:00 -
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"Play with SB as much as possible before Kali. Because after that u'll see u cant even own a frigate(t1 it is) in 1 volley (hp boost). So your 40-50mil frig class / semi stealth bomber will be uber useless solo."
It will not be uber useless so what if it takes 2 volleys instead of 1 to kill a frig I can still do my job my ship + equpiment is also under 15mill perhaps 10 so its not 50mill. The trick is to get cloak BPC's.
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nexvis
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc
torpedo launchers instead of cruise missile launchers.
the ablity to warp cloacked.
the ablity to fire when cloacked. (with a passive targeter II)
So why ever use a covert ops then? You can do all your recon work in a fully untouchable, invisible torp-lobbing frigate. Oh but wait, they can be decloaked within 10km, great, too bad you never see them, even when they're firing, so the odds of getting inside 10km of a torpedo spamming stealth uberpwnmobile is about 1:10,000,000,000; effectively making every other ship in the game obsolete.
Most insanely absurd idea ever.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.11.17 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: nexvis
Originally by: Pattern Clarc
torpedo launchers instead of cruise missile launchers.
the ablity to warp cloacked.
the ablity to fire when cloacked. (with a passive targeter II)
So why ever use a covert ops then? You can do all your recon work in a fully untouchable, invisible torp-lobbing frigate. Oh but wait, they can be decloaked within 10km, great, too bad you never see them, even when they're firing, so the odds of getting inside 10km of a torpedo spamming stealth uberpwnmobile is about 1:10,000,000,000; effectively making every other ship in the game obsolete.
Most insanely absurd idea ever.
covert op's would move much faster than bombers, think about it.
how easy would it be to figure out where a stealth bomber was whilst he was spamming torps (which I hasen to add, wouldn't be cloaked)
the stealth bomber would be great as a lone stalker, which would take out solo targets and actually add something to game tactics and doctorin
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Easy Target
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:28:00 -
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why not just make them not appear on overviews even when uncloaked...
allows a certain element of stealth..
The not warping cloaked wont be as big a problem as unless u are zoomed out u wont see them warp in...
Torpedos would work as well
Half the range of them
Half the speed
Double the Damage
Double the explosion radius...
All stats with level 5 Bomber skill
So u have to sneak close, it isnt going to be a long range pwn mobile
at close range it causes a lot of damage..
Not being able to be seen on overview is stealthy, and unique to the ship...
how many of us only watch overview during playing, and not the screen itself...
Make them able to cloak while in warp, but only when going less than 1 AU per second
u wont be seen on warp in, but u cant warp cloaked, u can enter warp cloaked, OR exit warp cloaked, u cant spend the full time warped..
So u can warp in.. not seen...
U can uncloak to shoot, and not appear on overview
And yeah, why not allow locking while cloaked... (reduced locking range)
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