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dalmety	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:07:00 - [1] i have just been catching up on the forums and i noticed alot of fuss about the new t2 bc's being changed about where exactly is this info or post as i cant find it anywhere cheers if anyone can direct me to it
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:24:00 - [2] I need a pointer, too. But let me guess. -1 launcher on the Drake and the Myrmidon is still not a proper drone boat. - EVE is sick.
solidshot Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:28:00 - [3] you have to check on sisi for the stats but the hurrican has lost a turret and some powergrid, the drake has lost a launcher and had one of its bonuses changed to a kinetic damage one.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:32:00 - [4] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 17/11/2006 09:32:49 And they nerfed barrage tracking. And alpha strike is dead with the hp boost, so.. hmm. Why play minmatar? --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Calprimus Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:37:00 - [5] Drake lost a missile point and lost a bonus to kinetic dmg? Well done CCP, you really know how to make player happy. Another ship for the database, I guess (with none actually using it) And good news for the 5-10 player with Cerberus BPO. Good job guys.
skillbuyer	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Calprimus Drake lost a missile point and lost a bonus to kinetic dmg? Well done CCP, you really know how to make player happy. Another ship for the database, I guess (with none actually using it) And good news for the 5-10 player with Cerberus BPO. Good job guys. And you complain because /obviously/ the tech 1 Drake should replace the tech 2 Cerberus? You, sir, are a moron. Plus, the Drake is /still/ a better ship than the Ferox even with this.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:47:00 - [7] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 17/11/2006 09:48:10 Originally by: skillbuyer Plus, the Drake is /still/ a better ship than the Ferox even with this. Not when you look at the possible fittings. Raynor has a thread on it in Kali Development. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Calprimus Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2006.11.17 10:00:00 - [8] Edited by: Calprimus on 17/11/2006 10:01:53 Originally by: skillbuyer Originally by: Calprimus Drake lost a missile point and lost a bonus to kinetic dmg? Well done CCP, you really know how to make player happy. Another ship for the database, I guess (with none actually using it) And good news for the 5-10 player with Cerberus BPO. Good job guys. And you complain because /obviously/ the tech 1 Drake should replace the tech 2 Cerberus? You, sir, are a moron. Plus, the Drake is /still/ a better ship than the Ferox even with this. a) post with your main b) activate the brain before posting c) you are clueless, refrain to post here even if you activate your brain have a nice day, and thx for the constructive feedbak
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.17 10:07:00 - [9] im just hoping that the deimos gets a decent boost but as it is it doesnt
Spanker	Posted - 2006.11.17 10:14:00 - [10] Edited by: Spanker on 17/11/2006 10:15:14 er nm, wrong thread - Shpank
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.11.17 10:56:00 - [11] Originally by: skillbuyer And you complain because /obviously/ the tech 1 Drake should replace the tech 2 Cerberus? You, sir, are a moron. Not very polite, are you? The brutix outdamage the deimos. Does that mean the deimos is useless? Of course not. And this isn't a small "fix" we're speaking about, the Drake just got a -47% DPS with non-kinetic missiles. Nevermind that it was it's passive tanking capabilities that were (and still are) overpowered, Tuxford nerfed the dps of the "gank" battlecruiser to only 20% more DPS than a Caracal. Now that ship will be very decent for NPC against guristas, and worthless for anything else... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.
Slevin Kalebra	Posted - 2006.11.17 11:11:00 - [12] Edited by: Slevin Kalebra on 17/11/2006 11:14:14 Originally by: Calprimus Drake lost a missile point and lost a bonus to kinetic dmg? Drake lost a missile point and gained a kinetic damage bonus. To add insult to injury, it also lost the RoF bonus. It's nothing much now... just a Caracal with the speed, tank and signature of a Ferox. IMO something needed doing but they should have taken either the RoF or the launcher point. Personally I'd have said the RoF, (although that would annoy most folks) because the game has trouble managing rapid damage output (AC's have been altered slightly too on Sisi to a lower RoF and higher damage) and with 6 launcher slots on the Drake there was argument for a 6th rail slot for the Ferox (there still is, but maybe it's not quite as strong now). Maybe they took off both 'by accident' and they'll put one back and we'll all be so pathetically grateful that we'll forget how it was before... TBH I imagine people will still use it, for PvE at least, in the same way that the Ferox is used but for PvP it's not going to cut it.
dalmety	Posted - 2006.11.17 13:20:00 - [13] how about the harbinger has that undergone any changes yet hope is dont
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.17 13:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Calprimus Edited by: Calprimus on 17/11/2006 10:01:53 Originally by: skillbuyer Originally by: Calprimus Drake lost a missile point and lost a bonus to kinetic dmg? Well done CCP, you really know how to make player happy. Another ship for the database, I guess (with none actually using it) And good news for the 5-10 player with Cerberus BPO. Good job guys. And you complain because /obviously/ the tech 1 Drake should replace the tech 2 Cerberus? You, sir, are a moron. Plus, the Drake is /still/ a better ship than the Ferox even with this. a) post with your main b) activate the brain before posting c) you are clueless, refrain to post here even if you activate your brain have a nice day, and thx for the constructive feedbak There are 20 BPOs for each HAC out there ... Oh and calling each other names is forbidden by the rules (friendly reminder). _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

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