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Aethras Caldari WING LORDS Schism.	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:29:00 - [1] I was looking at both AFs and wondering which one is best for ratting Guristas in 0.0. Enyo seems to be the best choice i think.. can fit 3 Magnetic Stabilizers for damage vs 2 of the harpy, plus a light drone. What do you think? _______________
Soren Eisarson	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:59:00 - [2] Enyo hands down: 4x Neutron II's (antimatter) 1x Rocket launcher II 1x 1mn ab II 1x eutectic cap recharger (gonna get lots of these ) 1x small armor rep II 2x Magnetic field stabalizer II 1x local power plant capacity power relay Harpy just can't dish out that kind of damage with rails
MECTO Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:35:00 - [3] Edited by: MECTO on 20/11/2006 18:36:28 Edited by: MECTO on 20/11/2006 18:35:51 Enyo, i was something like that: 4x neutrons t2 ab, cap rech [or web if good cap skills] small rep, 3x magnetic fiend stab don't need any tank against guristas specialy, just get transerval up and kill frigs/cruisers first then go for BS It's Great Being Carebear in Kali - aint it? Originally by: Tuxford In this picture you might think that Gallente totally pwn. Well they're alright
Blanche Virgo The Followers of Origin	Posted - 2006.11.21 08:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Soren Eisarson Enyo hands down: 4x Neutron II's (antimatter) 1x Rocket launcher II 1x 1mn ab II 1x eutectic cap recharger (gonna get lots of these ) 1x small armor rep II 2x Magnetic field stabalizer II 1x local power plant capacity power relay Harpy just can't dish out that kind of damage with rails Actually the Harpy can deal out the exact same amount of damage that can...minus the Light Drone. Try fitting it with Blasters. EvE > WoW
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.11.21 08:52:00 - [5] i've actually used both myself. prefer the enyo overall but harpy can fit a nice shield tank with 85% standard kinetic resist for those guristas especially with a gisti a type small SB. same dmg bonus, turret slots etc so same dmg pretty much. just doesn't seem right using blasters on a caldari ship somehow DE
Aethras Caldari WING LORDS Schism.	Posted - 2006.11.21 12:29:00 - [6] i see.. thanks for answering :) Well i have already caldari frigate lvl4 and some shield skills.. so im more close to the harpy than the enyo. Also i was told that the harpy also is a very versatile ship for 0.0 lifestyle.. and a pretty good sniper. I don't have any drone skills.. so no close range gallente alternatives for me (ishkur). Perhaps the Harpy will be a nice choice. What do you think? _______________
MECTO Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.21 13:14:00 - [7] i think choice is after u. but keep in mind that with gallente frig. u got enyo and ishkur and with caldari - only harpy, enyo can snipe too btw It's Great Being Carebear in Kali - aint it? Originally by: Tuxford In this picture you might think that Gallente totally pwn. Well they're alright
Aethras Caldari WING LORDS Schism.	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:42:00 - [8] Yes.. but i don't have any drone skills, and that its a long way to train it well. But when i get there, and train some drone skills using the gallente Afs are not too far away, most of the skills are shared. Anyway.. i read that the hawk is not so bad.. crappy damage (poor ratting i think) but very nice tank. _______________
Lumberjackhammer Caldari Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:32:00 - [9] the hawk is not bad at all....dont udnerstand why people keep whining about it, it alla depends on what type of enemey your are killing, if its gurista then go for the hawk, rocket launchers t2/t2 ammo and you got 150+ dps and a 90/80% KIN/THERM tank, ,,,passive tank I might add, cause you can fit a med extender on there, so 150 dps, 90/80% on 2000 hitpoints, AND a target painter.....dont tell me that bad against guristas :P
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:54:00 - [10] Edited by: slothe on 22/11/2006 15:54:42 Originally by: DarkElf i've actually used both myself. prefer the enyo overall but harpy can fit a nice shield tank with 85% standard kinetic resist for those guristas especially with a gisti a type small SB. same dmg bonus, turret slots etc so same dmg pretty much. just doesn't seem right using blasters on a caldari ship somehow DE nope but its the same with hacs - beagle > deimos. because blasters suck, use more cap, have more difficult fitting, and can fit no tank :/ bleh.

Aethras Caldari WING LORDS Schism.	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:41:00 - [11] Edited by: Aethras on 23/11/2006 02:48:24 Edited by: Aethras on 23/11/2006 02:41:53 Originally by: Lumberjackhammer the hawk is not bad at all....dont udnerstand why people keep whining about it, it alla depends on what type of enemey your are killing, if its gurista then go for the hawk, rocket launchers t2/t2 ammo and you got 150+ dps and a 90/80% KIN/THERM tank, ,,,passive tank I might add, cause you can fit a med extender on there, so 150 dps, 90/80% on 2000 hitpoints, AND a target painter.....dont tell me that bad against guristas :P yes is for guristas... perhaps i would measure again the comparison of dps.. and try the build in quickfit until i get something i like. Either way.. as a caldari i should train both for rails and missiles.. so getting both skills wont take me too long i guess. EDIT: tryed in quick fit and i cant fit all.. could you post the complete setup? _______________
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.23 05:58:00 - [12] I hear good things about a blaster harpy with a somewhat expensive fit, but I havent had the time to put that ship together and try it out myself Originally by: Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
Zekk Pacus Caldari StateCorp	Posted - 2006.11.23 07:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Blanche Virgo Actually the Harpy can deal out the exact same amount of damage that can...minus the Light Drone. Try fitting it with Blasters. But you'd need assault ships 5 to get the exact same damage as an enyo, not to mention a neutron blaster fitting on a harpy is hard to get right.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:46:00 - [14] Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 22/11/2006 15:54:42 Originally by: DarkElf i've actually used both myself. prefer the enyo overall but harpy can fit a nice shield tank with 85% standard kinetic resist for those guristas especially with a gisti a type small SB. same dmg bonus, turret slots etc so same dmg pretty much. just doesn't seem right using blasters on a caldari ship somehow DE nope but its the same with hacs - beagle > deimos. because blasters suck, use more cap, have more difficult fitting, and can fit no tank :/ bleh. Ion Blaster Cannon II 1750 MW and 51 cpu 350 Railgun II 1969MW and 66 CPu Neutron Blaster Cannon II 2363MW and 61 CPU 425 Railgun II 2625 MW and 77 CPU So ur wrong, rails have higher fitting requierments, ofc its hard to compare those two, cause on long range other one short, but using the biggest gun of the Type u get an idea. Nut its harder to have a tank on a 425II mega then on a neutronII mega. But with Blasters u need probally a cap injector, with rails u need tracking computer and damage mods. Its just not the gun itself but the other modules u have to have, like trackign comps, damage mods for rails and dual rep, weber, cap injector for the blasters. As i said hard to compare but for npcing a blaster harpy is probally as good as a blaster enyo, depens where u have better skills.
Aethras Caldari WING LORDS Schism.	Posted - 2006.11.23 11:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Zekk Pacus Originally by: Blanche Virgo Actually the Harpy can deal out the exact same amount of damage that can...minus the Light Drone. Try fitting it with Blasters. But you'd need assault ships 5 to get the exact same damage as an enyo, not to mention a neutron blaster fitting on a harpy is hard to get right. actually with quick fit is easier to fit blasters on a Harpy than on an Enyo. Harpy is designed to fit rails.. that have more requirements. _______________
Talon Calais Gallente Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 23:11:00 - [16] Edited by: Talon Calais on 23/11/2006 23:12:39 They have the same grid, not sure why you're arguing. My Enyo: 4x Light Neutron Blaster II 1x Rocket Launcher II 1x AB II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Small Armor Rep II 2x Mag Stab II 1x Local Cap Relay Has 2.02 Grid and 6.1 CPU left, AWU 4. Harpy is easier on CPU, but those mid slots will eat it up faster. But my Hobgoblin II also keeps me company in the middle of nowhere ^.^


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