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Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:20:00 - [1] Would it change the game too much if money could not be transferred to 0.0? If you had to physically convert the isk to actual coin, and haul that? I think it would make things more interesting. For one, you couldn't have a carebear alt in empire space sending you cash in 0.0...
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:23:00 - [2] Oh god no. What a mess that would cause in the business world. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Tammarr	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:24:00 - [3] heh, lets not make eve to much wild wild west spagetti westernish? I dont want to have wagoons of gold rolling into/outa 0.0 :P
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:27:00 - [4] It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... freighters full of isk.... trying to convoy back and forth with escorts...
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:27:00 - [5] thye are commin out of the woodwork today arent they
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Agent Li It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... freighters full of isk.... trying to convoy back and forth with escorts... This actually appeals to me, to be honest, though I'd imagine the vets wouldnt like it.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Agent Li It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... freighters full of isk.... trying to convoy back and forth with escorts... This actually appeals to me, to be honest, though I'd imagine the vets wouldnt like it. Imagine a freighter full of isk with escorts. The pirates attack - concentrating fire on the freighter in order to blow its cargo into space. Once that happens, the escorts either have to stay to the end defending the isk in space, or run for home.
Nigh7F0x	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:58:00 - [8] I know that RL technology means nothing in a video game but comeon. You can't be serious about this question. We've had Western Union since, what, 1850?
Pia Domina	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:59:00 - [9] In today's world the majority of transactions - certainly big ones - are carried out electronically with not a single note or coin physically moving, and the gold reserves that countries have to maintain their economies usually sit in repositories getting dusty and never actually move. So why, in the far, far future where faster-than-light travel and communication is possible and the galaxy has adopted single unified currency, would commerce have gone back centuries to people having to haul big sacks of coins around?
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:06:00 - [10] so um whats all this about again
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Pia Domina In today's world the majority of transactions - certainly big ones - are carried out electronically with not a single note or coin physically moving, and the gold reserves that countries have to maintain their economies usually sit in repositories getting dusty and never actually move. So why, in the far, far future where faster-than-light travel and communication is possible and the galaxy has adopted single unified currency, would commerce have gone back centuries to people having to haul big sacks of coins around? Trust. Or lack thereof.
Frank Lupertazi	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:09:00 - [12] Edited by: Frank Lupertazi on 20/11/2006 18:09:40 Originally by: Agent Li It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... You want to turn EVE piracy into something based on a Walt Disney movie? Edit: My vote goes for Bambi, thats far more realistic.
fisty RONA Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:12:00 - [13] u could do that back in beta.... Ciao
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Frank Lupertazi Edited by: Frank Lupertazi on 20/11/2006 18:09:40 Originally by: Agent Li It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... You want to turn EVE piracy into something based on a Walt Disney movie? Edit: My vote goes for Bambi, thats far more realistic. Well, a lot of people killed at gate camps are roleplaying Bambi's mom...
Redbad Minmatar Gingerbread Reapers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:19:00 - [15] Originally by: Nigh7F0x I know that RL technology means nothing in a video game but comeon. You can't be serious about this question. We've had Western Union since, what, 1850? Hmm, with current situation its not possible within Eve to setup a "western union"-like business, cause ISK can be sent anywhere, and isnt physically hauled. I actually like this idea and realism. Like in real life, you can't take money for granted. Even our nations have gold reserves. Would be nice to protect someones "Spanish Silver Fleet".
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:20:00 - [16] EVE pointy-eared WOW has banks. Why wouldn't EVE? Besides, the interstellar credit is not a physical monetary system, it's an electronic credit system meant to facilitate the financial and commercial transactions between empires. Sure, you can get them in a physical form, in which case they'd come as secure data chips, but transactions are done between secure bank accounts in high secure space. This would actually open up for a debate on whether or not criminals wouldn't have their bank accounts and assets frozen - but that's an RP discussion, not an out of game discussion. - EVE is sick.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:24:00 - [17] Originally by: Ithildin EVE pointy-eared WOW has banks. Why wouldn't EVE? Besides, the interstellar credit is not a physical monetary system, it's an electronic credit system meant to facilitate the financial and commercial transactions between empires. Sure, you can get them in a physical form, in which case they'd come as secure data chips, but transactions are done between secure bank accounts in high secure space. This would actually open up for a debate on whether or not criminals wouldn't have their bank accounts and assets frozen - but that's an RP discussion, not an out of game discussion. Think about it. Would you trust a transfer to 0.0 space? Or from it? What guarantees that the money actually exists in such a case (since they are outside of the law entirely)? Laws regarding finance are meant to ensure the transparency and trust of the transaction - nothing else. Without that transparency and trust, you can't wire money. Given that certain areas of 0.0 space can't be traversed without going through a gate that zaps every non-corp member on sight, I don't see how this "trust" can exist at all.
Elliot Reid Gallente Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:26:00 - [18] In the 21st century we are well behind the technology of the EVE universe and we don't need to haul cash round with us. Why then would we need to in the distant future? Sorry but it's a bad idea.
Peacock McNuggets Guns 'N' Hoses	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:36:00 - [19] Edited by: Peacock McNuggets on 20/11/2006 18:37:11 Originally by: Agent Li Originally by: Pia Domina In today's world the majority of transactions - certainly big ones - are carried out electronically with not a single note or coin physically moving, and the gold reserves that countries have to maintain their economies usually sit in repositories getting dusty and never actually move. So why, in the far, far future where faster-than-light travel and communication is possible and the galaxy has adopted single unified currency, would commerce have gone back centuries to people having to haul big sacks of coins around? Trust. Or lack thereof. Even the Mafia, Yakuza and Banana Republic Dictators of this world use Mastercards / Electronic funds transfers.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Elliot Reid In the 21st century we are well behind the technology of the EVE universe and we don't need to haul cash round with us. Why then would we need to in the distant future? Sorry but it's a bad idea. Really? I guess that's why there's so much cash still around in our world.
Becham	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:39:00 - [21] Like anyone would actually move billions of ISK in a caravan when one party could jump clone to empire.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:41:00 - [22] http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs8/8731/money.htm A principal method used to launder drug proceeds is the physical transportation of bulk currency and monetary instruments, such as money orders and checks, to destinations outside the United States.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:43:00 - [23] Quite a funky idea, but not for EVE I fear. Too big a change, and no amount of fluff could explain it away. Anyhow, as if catching a hauler carrying a bunch of T2 BPC's isn't a piracy reward enough -----------------------------------------------
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:45:00 - [24] Edited by: Taram Caldar on 20/11/2006 18:47:18 Erm... Nope not even worth debating... this is a truely stupid idea, imo.
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.20 18:49:00 - [25] Freighters already carry ISK in physical form. -
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.20 19:31:00 - [26] No, it opens up a huge can of worms that shouldn't open. Not only it opens up the system for exploitation (duping ISK), but it creates all sorts of problems, from RP ones to game mechanic ones. _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Otto Torivus Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:00:00 - [27] I think that corps would move there isk by Carrier and you would still never have a chance at it. Time to kill a commie for Jesus
Lubricity Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:26:00 - [28] Oh good, and here I was afraid I wasn't going to fulfill my desire for the dumbest idea ever today. ========== I fly Caldari, does that mean I win Kali?
Angry Sheep Amarr Aur0ra	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:34:00 - [29] in the old days - you could take money from your wallet and have it as cash in your hold. I kind of liked it, cant remember why it was removed. It's a Dog eat Dog World out there and I'm wearing Milky Bone underwear
Allen Deckard Gallente WTB Supplies	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:43:00 - [30] Edited by: Allen Deckard on 20/11/2006 22:46:55 Originally by: Ithildin EVE pointy-eared WOW has banks. Why wouldn't EVE? Besides, the interstellar credit is not a physical monetary system, Absolutely nothing to do with the current subject but just currious where did you come up with "interstellar credit" I assume your saying thats the full name of ISK. Personally I always figured it was the easier form seeing as the game is developed in iceland and Iceland The kr=na (plural kr=nur) is the name of the currency used in Iceland. The name, meaning "crown", is related to that of other Nordic currencies (such as the Swedish krona and Norwegian krone). The ISO currency code is ISK. Anyway I think mine makes more sence. :) Edit: If I am not mistakin (and it's extreemely possible I am) didn't the currency start with isk, then like bars, then globes, then another I cant remember? Used to show up like in the top right of your screen if I remember. Been a long time but unless I am thinkin of another game. But am sure it was eve.
Allen Deckard Gallente WTB Supplies	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:47:00 - [31] grr wouldn't let me edit. Edit: If I am not mistakin (and it's extreemely possible I am) didn't the currency start with isk, then like bars, then globes, then another I cant remember? Used to show up like in the top right of your screen if I remember. Been a long time but unless I am thinkin of another game. But am sure it was eve.
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:50:00 - [32] Asheron's Call had a neat thing called Trade Notes. You could carry around coin which had weight, but if you wanted to carry a lot you either had to get a buffed up warrior to carry it all, or you bought trade notes. Each trade note bought for like 10% more than the face value and sold for 10% less than the face value. So each time you got one it took money out of the economy. But coin weighed so much you had to do it. I think eventually they did away with it all, first making coins weigh nothing, then getting rid of coins all together and just using a magical "you have this much money" concept. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| CCG Card Lookup
Gavin Tanner	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:53:00 - [33] Ok, we agree to haul gold coins around but you guys have to fight with rusty vibro cutlasses, flying in ships wih a solar sail , and all your pics have to show bad teeth.
Reggie Stoneloader eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:57:00 - [34] How about adding a handful of new BPOs for "ingots" of minerals? Classify them as trade goods. An ingot uses 100 units of a given mineral but only takes up 0.1 cubic meters of cargo space, a 90% compression rate. It's more believable than everyone hauling passive targeters and tractor beems around for mineral compression, and it would be a token unit of worldly wealth, which could be reprocessed with the corresponding mineral reprocessing skill at near 100% efficiency. Scanning an Iteron V full of Zydrine bars then politely asking him for half a billion isk at the point of a blaster is my kind of piracy. -------------- Civis Ascendant Sum
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 00:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader How about adding a handful of new BPOs for "ingots" of minerals? Classify them as trade goods. An ingot uses 100 units of a given mineral but only takes up 0.1 cubic meters of cargo space, a 90% compression rate. It's more believable than everyone hauling passive targeters and tractor beems around for mineral compression, and it would be a token unit of worldly wealth, which could be reprocessed with the corresponding mineral reprocessing skill at near 100% efficiency. Scanning an Iteron V full of Zydrine bars then politely asking him for half a billion isk at the point of a blaster is my kind of piracy. Not a bad idea, actually. We all know people insists on building passive targeters and the like as a way of carrying mienrals around lightly, so why not formalise it? Make a real "condensed material" material (ingots, as you say) as a method of carrying around minerals? -----------------------------------------------
Tonkin Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.21 00:35:00 - [36] lol looting a can off a dead apoc, you recived a t2 tachyon laser and looted 65 pieces of gold. lol be rather fun but you got WOW for that mate
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.21 01:59:00 - [37] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 21/11/2006 02:09:01 Originally by: Agent Li Really? I guess that's why there's so much cash still around in our world. There are more dollars in this world than there are printed dollars... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.21 02:39:00 - [38] I'll say no to this idea (the OP). It makes no sense that a 0.0 economy with stations / outposts etc can't access noral banking yet we can still communicate over light years instantly. I do plenty of trade with fuel and equipment haulers and I'm sure not going to wait around until we are both online to pay them in gold pieces because I live on the frontier. Originally by: Agent Li It would make piracy REAL piracy, rather like the Pirates of the Carribean... freighters full of isk.... trying to convoy back and forth with escorts... Without debating how close Walt Disney comes to portraying real piracy I should point out there are convoys. To hold system sovreignty you need POSs, they need fuel. Apart from ice products you need stuff like coolant, robotics, mechanical parts etc. Those items ae only available from agents and NPC trade, you can't make them. It is one of the few true ISK sinks. It also means that there is plenty of trade and haulers going from 0.0 to high sec and back again. High end rat loot comes out, fuel goes in. Both are worth ISK. Any 0.0 hauler pilot worth his salt will be well equiped to deal with inty gangs and full scale bubble camps so don't expect to find easy targets. But the targets are there. Remember a transport ship can fit an MWD and be built to tank as well as a BS. >> RECRUITING <<
Itoz Gallente Shiva	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:02:00 - [39] Originally by: Agent Li http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs8/8731/money.htm A principal method used to launder drug proceeds is the physical transportation of bulk currency and monetary instruments, such as money orders and checks, to destinations outside the United States. Ah...Lets just make pirate corps carry cash. Kill a pirate and you get his wallet.

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