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Coldplay
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Posted - 2003.11.13 11:10:00 -
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yew peskewy piwates!!!
Stop whining about empire space and how you cant enter.
Its the same with alot of RL stuff.
Security guards in stores/shopping centres.
Police at airports.... etc. etc.
Police are there to protect the weak and noobish and theres nothing you can do about it.
Theres plenty of "dead" space for you to camp, chances are you'll find better loot because mostly the people flying in unsecure space will be in bs's or cruisers. Obviously they will be harder targets to kill but your pirates, and you gotta use your head and deal with it best you can.
So stop whining zincol, everything needs a balance otherwise the game would be unplayable.
Peace! @ú$*^&
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.13 12:14:00 -
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Considering the smacktalk you have to live through on local, there cannot be enough Anti Pirates.
The more anti Pirates, the more mature this game is. Since all the pirates who talked on local before (except vocos locos), made me:
a. Feel sorry for the parents
b. Give me those flashbacks like hearing to my cousin who's 5 years old.
c. Beg CCP for teenrating.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.13 12:21:00 -
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Considering the smacktalk you have to live through on local, there cannot be enough Anti Pirates.
The more anti Pirates, the more mature this game is.
utter crap.
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.13 13:30:00 -
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Dreamworks said;
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Considering the smacktalk you have to live through on local, there cannot be enough Anti Pirates.
The more anti Pirates, the more mature this game is.
And lord Guerdo thoughtfully refuted (without a hint of irony)
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utter crap.
Dreamworks has a point you know. Of late Eve has been flooded with a new breed of rubbishy unskilled smack-talking noob pirates. Who no longer have the ambition or smarts to make a living for themselves and instead hang out with the old lags and cartel bosses.
Its quite silly,
I have been insulted by lime-green pirate muppets barely out of little school ...
One prevalent trend seems to be the conceit that piracy aka jumpin and gate camping, is the only valid career option.
I actually got called a "worthless leaching trader" by a pirate the other day ;)
Talk about biting the hand that (potentially) feeds you!
I asked the chap what would happen if all the traders would quit tomorrow?
He said
"good riddance sweetheart
What a brainiac!
And then of course there are the biobuddies that call me a coward for running blockades in an indy ... ummmm what? colour me confused cos I didn't know blockade runners were supposed to run "at the blockade".
Suffice to say I think what has happened is that a lot of newbie pirates have skipped the learning to play the game and the economy bit, and have just been handed out ships (or bought em on ebay) and gone straight on the road to pirate "mastery" (sic) ...
This has led to a rapid descent in the quality of "pirate" players.
At the moment we have an environment with too few victims, and too many stupid predators.
Realistically the predators are going to starve come wintertime.
And the good news,
The clever "pirates" that survive all this and actually learn how to play the game will lose the competition from the smack-kiddies and their nonsense playstyles.
edited out the n0rty in with the friendly -Eris Discordia
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.11.13 13:39:00 -
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Constructive part: Dreamworks has the point - the more anti-pirates the better. Too much game time is wasted on camping and smacktalking. Real battles should happen around asteroid fields when alliances start fighting for resources, not at jump in points. Jade also has the point regarding pirates that might survive EVEolution trough patches - they will be the real thing.
Unconstructive part: Utter crap
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2003.11.13 14:01:00 -
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Considering the smacktalk you have to live through on local, there cannot be enough Anti Pirates.
The more anti Pirates, the more mature this game is.
OMG you seriously believe that  90% of my night is filled with people attempting to abuse me in local (and the others with me) with second rate trash talk, then come the "mature" anti-pirates who try to be clever with it. There will ALWAYS be childish idiots playing this and any online game and they exist on BOTH sides of the fence.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.13 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Guerdo on 13/11/2003 14:25:05
Ok il bite the bullet on this one and say i was a little quick to react to dreamworks post.
Also im in some agreement with it
I have a theory as to why and where these new smack talking pirates have come from.
The recent influx of players wanting to try out PvP as they have gotten bored with the mundane task of mining or npcing. so try their hand at PvP ( would seem the next logical step.)
Now the smack talk is being picked up from the older more experienced pirates that have been in wars with various regions / corps for a while and already have a disdane towards said ppl. When they come head to head and one side retreats, the pent up anger against that corp comes out in the local channel the younger more inexperienced pirate picks this up and thinks its the norm to talk trash.
Now dont get me wrong im not suggesting that the new pirates cant think for them selves and are sheep following the crowd. *Edit* just that ppl tend to follow the trends set by other ppl rather than adhering to their own principles.
Hope this is somewhat more constructive than my previous post and makes sense =)
Lord Guerdo
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I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.13 15:55:00 -
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Not enough pirates? This is what pirates do... gank kittens at JIPs... Why would we want more meanies pickin' on innocent little n00b kitties?
"Freeze little kitten! Drop your cargo or i'll pod your ass!!!"
OMG im still laughing this is like the greatest picture i have seen.
In all seriousness Define being a proper pirate and how to perform it with the currently nerfed conditions. Maybe we can work on it but to be honest It takes a level of cordinations and a procedure to probably do it. But hey I personally would like to hear Constructive critism on this subject.
The warp to player mod and skill need to be number 1 on CCP's to do list.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.13 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 12/11/2003 20:52:24
Pirating is hard and is goin to get so hard that there will b no pirates.
Then all ure happy carebears will have nothin to moan about only that ure marco repeat has run out...damn!
I'd like to add that pirates cant hunt players as they warp off,mwd,safe point and a free 10sec invuln time!!
Pos sec guys can camp neg sec guys in stations and gates in 0.4 to 0.1 the neg sec guys can NOT do that,The Neg sec guy also has to wait for the Pos sec guy too shoot him first or the guns will open on the Neg sec guy if he fires first...
i belive pirates and carebears need's balancing.
Pirates also dont have access to 0.5 or above dont see why not. As Police could protect instead of kill Pirate ships.
JIPS (Jump in points) There are roumors about them being randomized,well thats Pirates stuffed up then.
w00t!
Zincol,
I will tell ya, that as you know anyone can be a pirate, you just need to be in 0.0, I believe that anyone attacking a peep should get a sec rating, then those NVA Rats can get there wonderous sec rating hits. It is funny how alliances can hide in 0.0 and attack anyone and don't take sec hits ratings.
Also it doesn't matter if your a pirate or not you have chumps trying to attack you just on the notion that you had a NAP with them or sold them a ship, or god forbid you went to watch something.... hmmm. Where is this game going? Help? I bought a new game this weekend, unfortunatly it sucked! CCP HELP!
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.13 18:46:00 -
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Zincol,
I will tell ya, that as you know anyone can be a pirate, you just need to be in 0.0, I believe that anyone attacking a peep should get a sec rating, then those NVA Rats can get there wonderous sec rating hits. It is funny how alliances can hide in 0.0 and attack anyone and don't take sec hits ratings.
Also it doesn't matter if your a pirate or not you have chumps trying to attack you just on the notion that you had a NAP with them or sold them a ship, or god forbid you went to watch something.... hmmm. Where is this game going? Help? I bought a new game this weekend, unfortunatly it sucked! CCP HELP!
Okay, so let me get this straight. We control a region in constant war, with constant spy traffic. We make our border policies very clear.
But we're supposed to let you run around the region and "look around," even though you have a prior relationship with Biomass (our enemy) and you have spent the entire previous day spouting off on the forums about hwo you're going to "test" our security and go have a look at all the Bistot.
You are a feeb. You and your alter-ego Dark Helmett cry as much as any carebears. Stay out of our zone.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.13 19:42:00 -
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But we're supposed to let you run around the region and "look around," even though you have a prior relationship with Biomass (our enemy) and you have spent the entire previous day spouting off on the forums about hwo you're going to "test" our security and go have a look at all the Bistot.
You skipped the best part too. The Crice pilot in the first large fleet attack by Biomass (now on video  ) on NVA was flying a RAVEN (nice observer vessel) and apparently fired on NVA ships "in self defense". THEN, after getting a certain amount of flack for that, proceeding to accompany Biomass on another foray into Venal the next week-end, again in a warship. Crice's status is EARNED. Flaming NVA in the forums isn't going to help your cause, unless the cause is Biomass propaganda.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:26:00 -
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I wouldnt say there is a problem for sure with anti pirates and pirate balance. I would say the newb space bs miners are an issue. Although i must refute that all that is left is the little kiddie pirates. Some of us are still here doing things in a sensible mature manner  .
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:23:00 -
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Like camping gates, ganking all and everyone?
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:43:00 -
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Not going to even bother feeding the troll . Anyone who's delt with us knows were not the kill everythign psychos that others are.
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Jack Hayden
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Posted - 2003.11.14 18:22:00 -
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Liked the kitte? Have a look at this:
BioMouse in action...
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.11.14 19:21:00 -
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i wanna go to empire space so i can buy stuff and maybe get neat things from agent missions
poor baby
You made your bed... now sleep in it 
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2003.11.15 00:21:00 -
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Cormyat or whatever your name is,the very point of all my fussin in the threads latley have been backed by your comment to Crice earlier.I do beleive I saw you in a 0.0 system last night.Seems your a spy and you should repsect us when yer ship gets hit.But wait...oh yeah you hid all night so that noone can find you.
And I was killed by Zincol,twice in one day and I still understand the pirates views on teh game good must bigget evil,but i see no good especially the NVA
No matter how big
No matter how strong
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.15 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 15/11/2003 01:00:35
Let me quote this post before "jehutty" has a chance to delete it. lol!
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Cormyat or whatever your name is,the very point of all my fussin in the threads latley have been backed by your comment to Crice earlier.I do beleive I saw you in a 0.0 system last night.Seems your a spy and you should repsect us when yer ship gets hit.But wait...oh yeah you hid all night so that noone can find you.
And I was killed by Zincol,twice in one day and I still understand the pirates views on teh game good must bigget evil,but i see no good especially the NVA
Lol, you are so stupid. Thanks for making recon easier.
BTW, jehutty is yet another Biomass/Crice alt. Lol!
Next time, switch back to your main before posting with the alt you use to flame.
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Skot 182
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:05:00 -
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gatorade?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:56:00 -
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Constructive part: Dreamworks has the point - the more anti-pirates the better. Too much game time is wasted on camping and smacktalking. Real battles should happen around asteroid fields when alliances start fighting for resources, not at jump in points. Jade also has the point regarding pirates that might survive EVEolution trough patches - they will be the real thing.
Unconstructive part: Utter crap
utter crap. fausto, you have proven before that you know little, no use to continue to show off...
fighting for minerals is useless and does not work, i thought everyone had understood this by now?!?
pirates had to adapt a lot, which was the biggest miner adaption so far? (npcs shooting back or first ore thieves showing up?)
solution to empirer space (as has been stated before):
1. flexible police response
2. flexibel police response
3. flexible police response
i d like to see the introduction of a 2 layered security status, one being realy hard to change which would only allow players to attack you.
i m a big fan of frigates piracy, too. why would police intervene (en masse) if a frigate attacks a cruiser???
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