Please give me and my alts more isk.

I am mostly trying to point out that any content which scales linerarly or better will be multi-boxed all to hell.

Thats okay. Incursions, Cosmic anomalies already are. What you are saying isn't news.

Incursions are another topic all together which should be moved to low and null only solely because of the amount of isk that can be made per day rivals the amount a FW alt sitting in an empty system closing plexes all day. Yes there will be tears but Incursions don't seem to follow the isk vs reward system everything else is based on.

Do it the other way then, the less players you have the more it scales. Start at five people with current rewards for each person and work your way to solo increasing rewards as you drop fleet size.

Won't reward social interaction at vet level when you have the skill points and ship to solo for life but would give someone who is being active a boost in isk over the very inactive miners of high sec.

Incursions are another topic all together which should be moved to low and null only solely because of the amount of isk that can be made per day rivals the amount a FW alt sitting in an empty system closing plexes all day. Yes there will be tears but Incursions don't seem to follow the isk vs reward system everything else is based on.

The Risk/Reward system from incursions is just stemmed more towards the risk from the PVE side instead of the PVP side. Don't get me wrong, there is still risk in getting suicide ganked, but if you are not going to bring up the PVE risk, then I will complain that your FW alt sitting in an empty system closing plexes all day doesn't have enough PVE risk to be entitled to its isk.

But back to the OP;

The increase in mission reward comes from you being able to complete the sites faster. If you got more reward from people just being in your fleet, you could just have your alts stay docked up where there is literally 0 risk, and print more isk.

The Risk/Reward system from incursions is just stemmed more towards the risk from the PVE side instead of the PVP side. Don't get me wrong, there is still risk in getting suicide ganked, but if you are not going to bring up the PVE risk, then I will complain that your FW alt sitting in an empty system closing plexes all day doesn't have enough PVE risk to be entitled to its isk.

But back to the OP;

The increase in mission reward comes from you being able to complete the sites faster. If you got more reward from people just being in your fleet, you could just have your alts stay docked up where there is literally 0 risk, and print more isk.

Dont get me wrong, Im with you on two of those points in a manner of speaking. To stay on topic, as far as getting more isk from PvE the simple truth is lvl 4s are not the end of the line. If you want more isk go to low sec and do lvl 5s, I hear they are hard and most of the time they do require fleets to run. Which then goes into the Risk vs reward system.

Far as the FW plexing goes Im with you, nerf that sh** into the ground, they make far too much isk for the low amount of effort and low risk that comes with it. The plexes were made to give people a place to fight away from gate/station guns, not for people to grind isk like bears in high sec.

I wont even begin to acknowledge the false statement that there is risk in Incursions do to PvE rats. Every ship that is ever lost is due to a huge mistake that came from negligence on the part of the FC or one of the fleet members. Otherwise, the only thing they will ever fear is getting ganked when they are moving from one area to the next chasing Incursions. Even that can easily be avoided with simple tactics that most probably dont even think about.

You are already rewarded for doing missions with a fleet simply due to the fact that you can run them much, much faster, allowing you to run more missions in the same allotted time frame. There does not need to be a mechanic to increase pay out based on fleet participation, as it will only be farmed and abused by those with the ability to do so.

I wont even begin to acknowledge the false statement that there is risk in Incursions do to PvE rats. Every ship that is ever lost is due to a huge mistake that came from negligence on the part of the FC or one of the fleet members. Otherwise, the only thing they will ever fear is getting ganked when they are moving from one area to the next chasing Incursions. Even that can easily be avoided with simple tactics that most probably dont even think about.

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1. Not really there are more steps involved.
2. Managing a fleet is a lot more time sensitive than soloing. I think that should be accounted for at least.
3. Just give it a buff. It will help retain players through better social interactions.
4. Plus with the extra isk, it will make veteran players desire to take on more newer players. It is a good thing to reward these leaders.

Missions are already an insane isk faucet... It doesn't need anything more since the real payout from them is LP and bounties.

1. There are only more steps involved if you're multi-boxing the fleet yourself. If you have other actual humans involved, the only thing that could be considered additional steps is making sure you tag the triggers, and the extra dialog box at the end for splitting rewards (or not).
2. So basically you're argument here is that it takes you two minutes to setup a fleet, so you need to get paid for that?
3. "Think of the newbies" is nothing more than a fall back argument used to try and prop up bad ideas.
4. No, what will happen is the vets will bring in their alts to collect the additional reward. They can already solo the mission, so why do they need to babysit some newbie when they can just use an alt? The players that help newbies do so because they like helping newbies, not because they get extra isk out of it.

1. doesn't matter, some people are better at multiboxing than others.
2. Argument is that there is greater effort involved in generating conten, which EVE should support to provide players with "rich experiences".
3. This idea is not just limited to new players, and there are so many definitions of "new players" in EVE Online, I wouldn't discriminate against what you would call (older players?).
4. Alts are a part of the game. Alts have been used in wonderful scams and other forms of gameplay. There is nothing wrong with alts. To answer the second part: the social interaction is better for the game.

Like I said. Fleets need better incentives for missions. They are putting forth effort to expand the game. This would be a wonderful tool to expand game conetent for older players and newer players. It would increase "richer experiences". There is complaints about alts, but people are going to use alts for PVP/PVE as long as EVE Online lives. Don't punish others for what other might do.

Increased missions rewards will lead to richer game experiences, as much of the game's population does missions. Encouraging fleets is the best way to retain players.

Simply repeating the same line over and over does not make it true.

I would like to see this. There have been plenty of times I've tagged along or had someone tag along on a mission and despite being depressingly boring we were disappointed to find little got added or shared. It would be nice to sign up for a joint mission or having someone tag along would raise the profit a bit. Something like 190% for two players, 265% for three, 320% for four ect. the percentage gets smaller for each individual you add to the mission. This means that one player doing a mission with a reward for 2 million will make 2 million. Two players will make 3.8 mil or 1.9m each. Three players would make 5.3 mil or 1.76m each and so on until say 10 players where the bonus would be something like a flat 700% or 14m total/1.4m each. Over ten (or maybe even just five) the number would no longer increase.

It would make it more lucrative for each individual but only slightly and it would still heavly depend on their speed at finishing the missions.

This process could also be used for LP rewards from missions.

And I would put three alts in fleet with myself, solo the mission, and collect the 6.4mil reward all for myself.

See the issue yet?

And I would put three alts in fleet with myself, solo the mission, and collect the 6.4mil reward all for myself.

See the issue yet?

lol you dont see how your wasting your time and isk/hour with that at all?

If your going to multi box why would you run one mission with four earning 320% isk when you can run four missions with each earning 100% for each or 400% total profit. Then again if you think you can run them faster with four in one mission then it's on you to try and optimize it and vise versa.

This actually opens up missioning gameplay depth by giving players MORE options to try and make better isk, even if we're just talking about a multiboxer. Some might like the ease of running just one site with a few ships while others will want to maximize and pay a little more attention as they control three alts and their main at four separate missions.