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Ivo Cortes
Vision Inc
Hole Control
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:03:18 -
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So i came up with the idea of a dedicated hauler frigate, like a venture without a ore bay. The reason behind this is because there are several situations you may need a hauler frigate, to all the wormhole guys, imagine you manage it to tackle and take down 2 capitals over a frig hole, but you're unable to take back the loot because there's no way a ship can hold a minimum of 4000m3 for the capitals modules and jump through a frig hole (unless its something else than ore or gas). During the battle, which lasts over 1,5h, we also had some serious ammo and bomb supply issues, but we we where not able to carry enough bombs with us at the same time to instantly delete the chimeras cap.
There are alot more situations where a small hauler frigate with atleast 4000m3 could be usefull, and i want to know what you guys think about this idea. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:15:24 -
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Sounds like you discovered the down side to fighting through a frigate hole.
By the way, a Magnate, the cheap t1 Amarr frigate, can be fit to have a 1750m3 hold. More than enough to schlep a bunch of bombs and missiles out to you.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Apex Bex
Boundless Exploration
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:18:10 -
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Are you kidding me, I literally just posted this.
*sigh*
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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
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Posted - 2015.06.13 17:10:50 -
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sounds ok, bar i wouldn't allow capital stuff in there, its not like you should have capital stuff in frigate size wh's, which i suppose means making capital stuff much higher in volume if needed.
Tech 3's need to be multi-role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists.
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist, nerf sentries, -3 slots for droneboats
Nerf web strength, Make the blaster eagle worth using
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.06.13 21:47:08 -
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Hmm, let's imagine you need to move full fit for a single carrier. How much of cargohold that would require?
Plus ammo plus drones fuel for sure. So basically you want to bypass T1/2 industrials and have something fast with amazing cargohold.
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.13 22:41:47 -
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Maybe a T3 Frigate with cargo modules as sub-systems is what you need. The sub-systems would mount to the outside of the frigate which would therefore not need an increase in its own cargo hold volume.
The only drawback is that the modules could come off of the ship if it is attacked thus allowing anyone to scoop and loot them.
Each sub system module would have a volume of 500 m/3 with a total of four such modules being added to the sub-systems. The sub-systems would be varied and built around various types of ammo such as bombs, missiles, charges etc.
The ship would be an in between frigate and destroyer sized ship that would require a special type of engine to be used that would be based on the 50 series of engines.
When not fit with sub-system modules the hauler would become a new variant of T2 Assault Frigate, slightly less powerful than a Ishkur but still more deadly than a Catalyst. |
Specia1 K
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.14 09:58:49 -
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How about NO.
-1
The tools already exist, use them. |
Ivo Cortes
Vision Inc
Hole Control
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Posted - 2015.06.14 15:39:23 -
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Its not just that simple, who else wouldnt be pissed off if theres 600mil in loot but you cant take it back. There are so much situations where you need a fast hauler but bigger than a dedicatet magnate/cruiser but faster and lighter than a t2 hauler. It would definitely makes a difference for low skilled pilots and WH logistic. There are allreaday a few other ideas in the forum to spice the frigate sized space vessels to more effectiveness.
Iam allready aware of the "emergency measures", so you can fit a 1750m3 magnate, or a 2300m3 confessor, or a 2900m3 devoter, but still, the goal is to reach atleast 4000m3 to transport capital modules. |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.06.14 17:37:11 -
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Ivo Cortes wrote:Its not just that simple, who else wouldnt be pissed off if theres 600mil in loot but you cant take it back. There are so much situations where you need a fast hauler but bigger than a dedicatet magnate/cruiser but faster and lighter than a t2 hauler. It would definitely makes a difference for low skilled pilots and WH logistic. There are allreaday a few other ideas in the forum to spice the frigate sized space vessels to more effectiveness.
Iam allready aware of the "emergency measures", so you can fit a 1750m3 magnate, or a 2300m3 confessor, or a 2900m3 devoter, but still, the goal is to reach atleast 4000m3 to transport capital modules.
Scan way out that does allow transport of said loot. Profit?
That aside a frigate sized hauler is something I want to see too, but that up there is lazyness and not an incentive. |
Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.14 17:59:05 -
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-1 from me, ccp has done a great job of splitting combat ship classes from industrial with small exceptions for noobs like the venture.
A hauling frigate, even a t2 one is a step in the other direction
You are content to be content. This is not a jedi mind trick, you're just the game
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