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eXaro
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:11:00 -
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nullIf the devs could do this:
*Fix the market.
*Make factions work the way they should.
*To get certain items you will need good faction standings.
*To fly certain ships you need good faction standings. (want to fly the apoc. Kill a lot of minmatars. Npc and pc)
*fix the sec system.
*want to see some more race corps. Make multiracial corp skills expensive like hell and let it take a very long time to train. We need some RACE VS RACE WARS IN EVE!
Atm there are only pirates vs rest and alliance vs alliance (what I want to say. You will need a extremely good ceo to run a multiracial corp. (maybe let amarr and caldari / minmatar and gallente have it easier to start a corp together.)
*Give ships a balancing overhaul.
*Get us some new drones.
*add 0,0 space between the empires. Were the different races can battle each other if they like to.. minmatars in amarr system should be attacked by amarr npc. But weak npc. That you can kill/run away from. (not concord like we have now)
*add new content to the game. fix other stuff you could not fix before.. make 0,0 mining alot more profitable etc.
im sure there are other problems that need to be fixed. But those are just the basics.
If those problems are fixed. Then I would agree for a char whipe.
(note: im not a n00bie screaming about reboot because I donĘt have stuff like older players do. I got skill points implants 3 bships. Rare modules.)
my spelling sucks? = im tired.
[i]Innocent child how you thought you knew me
understood my ways my dark needs
the hunt is not the thrill Im after
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eXaro
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:14:00 -
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dont take me long i like the game and all but i think it could be ALOT better. i want to see race wars. i want to see people having REAL PVP. (when starting combat with another pilot you cant just warp away.)
the game can only be improved in such a drastic way thru a charwhipe... thats my thoughts about it..
(ccp maybe start a alternative server.. were we start working on the new eve 2.0 when its done and working. all people can join. )
[i]Innocent child how you thought you knew me
understood my ways my dark needs
the hunt is not the thrill Im after
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylon Syi on 12/11/2003 19:27:30
1) do you ever read the patch reports and dev blogs?
2) why do we need more drones? For for lag exploits? Fix the lag first before you go asking for another one.
3) Market is currenty being worked on.
4) Roleplaying a war into a "roleplaying game" takes time.
5) Its not only up to the devs but to the players to instigate content. So wars between races are happening from the SMALL amount of role playing.
6) I role play an Intaki. My race have genious as a middle name. And born out of 0.1 space we do have a knack for war though it takes us time to get the ships. But our dedication to perception training and with our highly disciplined minds... we deserve to fly an Apoc or whatever ship we feel we want to use. Faction standing has nothing to do with it. Its all about dedication and decipline ( I'm a GAL, Minm and soon Amarr BS pilot and I've only been playing since the beginning of August ) and my other skills are also properly trained. Thus, its about finding a training path and doing it.
7) Im awaiting Tech 2 and 3 then I will make my decision on the future of EVE. Seems they are fixing the problems now but we shall see. Seems an Icelandic week = 3 for everyone else... so Im still awaiting that bug fix too.
Grasshopper... be patient... I know its hard... but try!
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Teeth
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:34:00 -
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Apoc and Scorp BP's shouldn't even be on the market according to the descriptions. You'd think a high level agent would be the only way to buy one in the game. A character wipe's not gonna happen. But if they opened a new "hardcore" server I'd join.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:41:00 -
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"if they opened a new hardcore server id join" after a lot of thinking, i would do. lets do a fresh start.
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Jolo
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:45:00 -
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a second server? great, does that mean I can play with 700 people at once and not 1400 like normal?
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Ilyana
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ilyana on 12/11/2003 19:53:25
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Edited by: Kaylon Syi on 12/11/2003 19:27:30
we deserve to fly an Apoc or whatever ship we feel we want to use. Faction standing has nothing to do with it.
Just to pick out one point...and a bit off-topic perhaps  ..
I don't agree at all (re faction standing has nothing to do with it). The ship description of the Apocalypse mentions that 'only those in high esteem with the Amarr Emperor' can fly the ship. Same goes for the MOA cruiser for example: only those with high standing with the Caldari (Navy) can hope to fly one.
So you indeed 'deserve' to fly an Apocalypse after you've proven yourself to the Amarr Emperor, through eg., your standing or actions taken in favor of the Amarr Empire or whatnot.
As it stands now, I as a Minmatar, can raid Amarr convoys, pirate in Amarr space, totally drop my standing with Amarr and still buy and fly an Apoc. It kills any immersion whatsoever.
Back to the pwipe....a pwipe would prolly go too far and cost them too many people. But they do get the closest thing to a pwipe with the introduction of tech 2. If they screw that up....
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:47:00 -
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a second server? great, does that mean I can play with 700 people at once and not 1400 like normal?
I take that as whining... Currently 4000 users (3999) logged on.
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:51:00 -
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They wont do a Character wipe, but I think they WILL have to open a new server inventually. Ninja mining for Ark in the first month plus the skill cheat plus insurance cheat plus plus plus
The BP limitations are a good idea. BPs should never have been sold on the open market in the amounts that they were sold. The faction ratings should be more game involved. There SHOULD be a area of lawless between Empires. I would imagine after they start releasing stuff into the game, maybe use the new Asian market as an excuse, but they will have to start a new server.
(IE the fact that you NEED a Battleship to PVP is ridiculious... those should be FLAGSHIPS ... NOT STAPLES!)
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:55:00 -
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We don't need race wars, we need NPC corporation wars with massive fleets of NPC mingled with PC mercs.
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Zinke
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Posted - 2003.11.12 20:51:00 -
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You need to get of your asses and start playing game for yourself without npc telling you what to do.
Create your own content and have fun.
-i don't understand how factions are not working, you do missions for level 1 agent and can get his faction to 2.0, level 2 to 4.0, level 3 to 6.0.
-by doing missions for said agent some of faction standings go up and some go down
-you can work for agents from all factions and try to keep them all happy.
As for people not deserving to fly ships i would state:
-that npcs don't build nothing higher than frigates so its all up to playerbase.
-soner or later somebody would earn BPs for Moa or Apoc and would be able to start building them (just recently Ecliptical won Amarr championship, wouldn't he deserve to have BP for Apoc as he gave emperor chance to be emperor)
This being said i don't like idea of npc telling me what to fly or not if corpmate of mine can make ship for me.
That leads us to market which is fine if it wasn't for gready people trying to undercut so much that they will sell at loss just to sell.
As you can see there is nothing that can be done (or needs to be) to fix these issues as issues are not of technical nature but rather of players attitudes that are not used to this kind of game (i know that many of you are more comfortable with games like EnB where NPC tells you what to do, whne to do it and how to do it).
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.11.12 21:08:00 -
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we do...thats why all the carebears whine about it...
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.12 21:25:00 -
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-i don't understand how factions are not working, you do missions for level 1 agent and can get his faction to 2.0, level 2 to 4.0, level 3 to 6.0.
-by doing missions for said agent some of faction standings go up and some go down
-you can work for agents from all factions and try to keep them all happy.
Excellent! So you have a little number on your character sheet. I guess to you that means "factions are working." Well, I suppose so if you just wanted them to be a calculator that does addition and subtraction.
Seriously, factions are vacuous at best. They exist, but aside from getting blown up if they drop to low, they offer nothing in the way of benefits or penalties for those players who take the time to bring them up or knock them down.
Factions shouldn't simply exist, they should actually do something.
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That leads us to market which is fine if it wasn't for gready people trying to undercut so much that they will sell at loss just to sell.
You contradict yourself with that sentence. The market is indeed not fine, because so many people are able to produce so many items so cheaply that selling them at just a smidge above production cost doesn't phase them one bit - hence every item "crashes" if more than 5 people are able to produce it.
Further, the reason "so just make it so only 5 people can produce it" is not a good solution is that there aren't enough valuable items in the game to provide a variety of corporations with production power while still maintaining the Market balance.
Do I have a working solution? No. That's what I pay CCP to come up with.
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issues are not of technical nature but rather of players attitudes that are not used to this kind of game
Players attitudes are shaped by the technical aspects of the game. Why do you think so many people view PvP so poorly right now? Do you think it could be because it's full of holes, bugs and exploits while offering very little reward at the cost of very high risk and large amounts of time invested?
Fix the technical problems with the game, and player's attitudes will follow suit.
As for limiting player's abilities to fly certain ships; I would say it's a bad idea for one major reason: a lack of variety in the ships themselves. As it stands now there's a "one role, one ship" setup in EVE. Want a missile boat, buy a Rave; want EW, buy a Scorpion; want Energy Weapons, buy an Apocalypse, etc., etc.
In this sense, choosing a race or starting faction would essentially also be choosing the role you would eventually be playing in the game. Pigeon-holing people like this is a bad thing in EVE, which strives on its diversity of choices in character development. Being able to be and do whatever you want is one of the things that makes EVE such an amazing game despite its shortcomings. If you tell a player a month after creating their character "Oh, sorry, you're Caldari you can only do x or y," you will sour that feeling very quickly.
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