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Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 237	Posted - 2015.06.22 21:47:04 - [31] - Quote Sniper Smith wrote: Just be happy you are able to decline them without penalty of cooldown, and move on. You might be happy with a life full of accepting things passively even if you dont like them but I at least make an effort to change things in my life that i dont like. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 237	Posted - 2015.06.22 21:49:58 - [32] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Is there some way to permanently opt out of burner missions? If there isnt one already then im requesting that a permanent opt out option be added, it is getting tiresome rejecting burners. Just today i had to reject 6 burner missions in a row to get a normal one. Wrong forum section for this, but +100 from me. Burner missions are "no penalty for declining" , you should be able to opt out completely as they are optional. No, we shouldn't be able to opt out of other types of missions like faction missions, the cool down/standings loss mechanics are built around the penalties for declining too many, but burner missions have no decline penalty. It's annoying to have to click through so many burners when you have no intention of running burners at all. Wasnt sure where to put the request so i put it here thinking that the Mods would move it if I had placed it in the wrong area. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 237	Posted - 2015.06.22 21:52:56 - [33] - Quote Tarsas Phage wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Is there some way to permanently opt out of burner missions? If there isnt one already then im requesting that a permanent opt out option be added, it is getting tiresome rejecting burners. Just today i had to reject 6 burner missions in a row to get a normal one. Yes, clicking that one Reject button must be so tiring. Perhaps you could use the exercise. Perhaps you could learn to read !! I had to push that reject button 6 times not just once and im pretty sure they will be adding more burners in the future meaning more times when you will be pushing that button numerous times to get back to normal missions. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Nevil Oscillator 206	Posted - 2015.06.22 21:55:03 - [34] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Being a pirate isn't necessarily what gives you bad standings with Concord. Mission runners can develop bad standings with Concord, just because they run missions for the wrong faction. Nothing to do with them being pirates, just running missions. Really.. which ones ? and what does Concord Standing affect ?
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22044	Posted - 2015.06.22 22:19:32 - [35] - Quote [OP]: Nope. Nope. Nope. Ummmm no. No. No. No. Errrrrr..hmmm.. better not. Nope. Nope. Nuh uh. Noooope. Ho ho... definitely not. Nope. Nope. Maybe. Nope. LOL NO. Did that. Nope. Nope. ..How about.... this one. [Mission agent]: What makes you think you can cherry pick the work around here? YOU work for ME scrub! Get out of my office! [OP]: How dare you! CCP will hear about this! I pay (amount) of (currency) per (time period) and have (#) of accounts! Im entitled to have things my way! [Mission agent]: Hmmm. You have a good point. Here, take this card. [OP]: What is this?!?!? All it asks is 'Can I have your stuff?' [Mission agent]: Its UaE's business card. OP storms out of the office Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 38499	Posted - 2015.06.22 22:25:01 - [36] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: Really.. which ones ? and what does Concord Standing affect ? On the second bit first, Concord standing affects your ability to use services just the same as standing with any corporation/faction is affected. For example, highsec CONCORD stations, and by extension, highsec systems where there are only CONCORD stations (like those in the Sanctum constellation in Genesis), become very unattractive for mining as no one will be able to refine properly in them. The new POS mechanics (no standings required to construct) help overcome that, but not everyone wants to own a POS and that doesn't help NPC Corp characters. Similar effects occur for other station based services. Jump clones is the other impact, though I wouldn't personally rate that as significant. Similarly, having standing below -5 (standing with Concord, not sec status) opens you up to being attacked by the Concord equivalent of faction police (not the same as Concord police that respond to criminal activity). So poor standings with Concord make it difficult to operate in and around Concord held systems. There are 58 Concord held systems, with a good percentage of those being in highsec. Anyone wanting to operate in/around Yulai for example, also has to deal with Concord Assembly owning Kemerk, Ourepheh, Manarq, Tar, Tekaima, Tarta, Zoohen, Pakhshi and Emsar. Ourepheh is only 2 jumps from Dodixie. Bad standings basically lock highsec players out of those systems because they'll be attacked if they hang around there. Freighter movements, slow missioning ships, incursions ships, etc. basically have to avoid those systems if they have low Concord faction standings. As to how, running pirate faction missions (eg. to gain LP for BPCs, implants, etc.) reduces standings to Concord. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1518	Posted - 2015.06.22 22:32:19 - [37] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: [OP]: Nope. Nope. Nope. Ummmm no. No. No. No. Errrrrr..hmmm.. better not. Nope. Nope. Nuh uh. Noooope. Ho ho... definitely not. Nope. Nope. Maybe. Nope. LOL NO. Did that. Nope. Nope. ..How about.... this one. [Mission agent]: ok. Fixed. This is pretty much how skipping multiple burner offers works right now. No threats to quit, no loss or opposition from the agent, no transfers of stuff. Just a bunch of extra clicks.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22046	Posted - 2015.06.22 23:21:45 - [38] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: [OP]: Nope. Nope. Nope. Ummmm no. No. No. No. Errrrrr..hmmm.. better not. Nope. Nope. Nuh uh. Noooope. Ho ho... definitely not. Nope. Nope. Maybe. Nope. LOL NO. Did that. Nope. Nope. ..How about.... this one. [Mission agent]: ok. Fixed. This is pretty much how skipping multiple burner offers works right now. No threats to quit, no loss or opposition from the agent, no transfers of stuff. Just a bunch of extra clicks. It was the way agents should be.... *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1518	Posted - 2015.06.22 23:40:33 - [39] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Tyberius Franklin wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: [OP]: Nope. Nope. Nope. Ummmm no. No. No. No. Errrrrr..hmmm.. better not. Nope. Nope. Nuh uh. Noooope. Ho ho... definitely not. Nope. Nope. Maybe. Nope. LOL NO. Did that. Nope. Nope. ..How about.... this one. [Mission agent]: ok. Fixed. This is pretty much how skipping multiple burner offers works right now. No threats to quit, no loss or opposition from the agent, no transfers of stuff. Just a bunch of extra clicks. It was the way agents should be.... Considering most of the mission pool is not burner missions, it effectively is. What is being asked for is the ability to skip the few parts that aren't.
Nevil Oscillator 206	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:04:39 - [40] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: Scipio Artelius wrote: Being a pirate isn't necessarily what gives you bad standings with Concord. Mission runners can develop bad standings with Concord, just because they run missions for the wrong faction. Nothing to do with them being pirates, just running missions. Really.. which ones ? and what does Concord Standing affect ? Scipio Artelius wrote: As to how, running pirate faction missions (eg. to gain LP for BPCs, implants, etc.) reduces standings to Concord. Pirate faction mission are not as you put it ,, simply running missions for the wrong faction
Paranoid Loyd 5925	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:16:34 - [41] - Quote Someday you will learn to just ignore him Scip. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 38506	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:18:49 - [42] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Someday you will learn to just ignore him Scip. Maybe. The problem is some people might actually Google something down the track that brings up this thread and they might mistakenly take those posts as good advice. Piracy doesn't on its own affect standings with Concord at all as far as I am aware. It affects security status, which can be bought back quite easily. Concord standings are much harder to adjust if someone takes them down running the wrong missions and then finds that good standings might be useful. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 5975	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:27:25 - [43] - Quote Removed some off topic/troll posts. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1438	Posted - 2015.06.23 10:10:09 - [44] - Quote Tarsas Phage wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Is there some way to permanently opt out of burner missions? If there isnt one already then im requesting that a permanent opt out option be added, it is getting tiresome rejecting burners. Just today i had to reject 6 burner missions in a row to get a normal one. Yes, clicking that one Reject button must be so tiring. Perhaps you could use the exercise. Imagine every so often you need to click "undock" 2-6 times before actually being allowed to undock. That **** would be pretty annoying.
Baljos Arnjak Dark Praetorian Order 88	Posted - 2015.06.23 15:24:38 - [45] - Quote What CCP really needs to do is separate Burner missions into a new category of agent. So normal missions have their normal agents and burner missions have burner agents, maybe call them Bounty Hunter agents or something. Then those that want to do burners and only burners can, and people who want to do normal and only normal missions can. Those that want to do both just hop in a shuttle and run over to where you do burners or vise versa. This is something that has been brought up a few thousand times that they should have done from the get-go.
Trader Hansen Failure Assured Fail Nation 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:21:08 - [46] - Quote What CCP needs to do is completely overhaul the entire mission system. It was pretty poor when they introduced it years ago, and it hasn't gotten better with age. But they won't, because it's not pushing players to low-sec/0.0 so isn't part of The Vision(tm).
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 4226	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:46:28 - [47] - Quote Baljos Arnjak wrote: What CCP really needs to do is separate Burner missions into a new category of agent. So normal missions have their normal agents and burner missions have burner agents, maybe call them Bounty Hunter agents or something. Then those that want to do burners and only burners can, and people who want to do normal and only normal missions can. Those that want to do both just hop in a shuttle and run over to where you do burners or vise versa. This is something that has been brought up a few thousand times that they should have done from the get-go. This. I want a "Headhunter" agent where I can do these harder missions. They could be like level 4.5 missions. Or maybe make them into 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, and 4.5 level missions The existing frigate burners be toned down to let newbs do them and cut back on their rewards to keep them from being too farmed. Do the same for the cruiser burners, make some BC burners, and make some battleship burners and you're solid. The Drake is a Lie
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 11535	Posted - 2015.06.23 17:02:21 - [48] - Quote Trader Hansen wrote: What CCP needs to do is completely overhaul the entire mission system. It was pretty poor when they introduced it years ago, and it hasn't gotten better with age. But they won't, because it's not pushing players to low-sec/0.0 so isn't part of The Vision(tm). I looked at your post and noticed it's tinfoil tone, then glanced over and noticed your corp and alliance. It fits.
Nevil Oscillator 206	Posted - 2015.06.23 17:27:21 - [49] - Quote This is such a carebear whimsical gripe. Total adds maybe 10 seconds to your mission time per day. Why not ask for something really useful like a hotkey for salvage drones instead of having to use a context menu. The current drone controls have been proven to cause tennis elbow and rickets.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 239	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:16:43 - [50] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: This is such a carebear whimsical gripe. Total adds maybe 10 seconds to your mission time per day. Why not ask for something really useful like a hotkey for salvage drones instead of having to use a context menu. The current drone controls have been proven to cause tennis elbow and rickets. Why dont you ask for it and I'll ask for things that i actually care about. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Nevil Oscillator 206	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:30:32 - [51] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Nevil Oscillator wrote: This is such a carebear whimsical gripe. Total adds maybe 10 seconds to your mission time per day. Why not ask for something really useful like a hotkey for salvage drones instead of having to use a context menu. The current drone controls have been proven to cause tennis elbow and rickets. Why dont you ask for it and I'll ask for things that i actually care about. You care about your time being wasted or just being offered missions you don't want to do because you find it insulting that they offered it to you ?
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 239	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:33:39 - [52] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Nevil Oscillator wrote: This is such a carebear whimsical gripe. Total adds maybe 10 seconds to your mission time per day. Why not ask for something really useful like a hotkey for salvage drones instead of having to use a context menu. The current drone controls have been proven to cause tennis elbow and rickets. Why dont you ask for it and I'll ask for things that i actually care about. You care about your time being wasted or just being offered missions you don't want to do because you find it insulting that they offered it to you ? Da fuk are you talking about? Take your crazy some place else and let the adults with their faculties in order do the talking here. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Nevil Oscillator 206	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:47:04 - [53] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Da fuk are you talking about? Take your crazy some place else and let the adults with their faculties in order do the talking here. I don't see your issue as unique, there are lots of things in Eve that could be faster.. but this is the one you care about.. I do have a point, it's been made.. good luck
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 470	Posted - 2015.06.23 21:38:23 - [54] - Quote Kind of funny how many people here like to pretend like they should be so up in arms and offended that anyone would stoop to such levels as to asking for such a thing. How dare someone else ask for something that would be an improvement for them but not me, right? It'd be one thing if was something that would be a detriment to others, but I guess since this would largely be something mission runners would like, that makes this a bull-**** request anyways, huh? Makes me wonder how many people actually know what is -- or that there even is -- a difference between "convenience" and "laziness". "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Nevil Oscillator 208	Posted - 2015.06.24 05:08:59 - [55] - Quote Sobaan Tali wrote: Kind of funny how many people here like to pretend like they should be so up in arms and offended that anyone would stoop to such levels as to asking for such a thing. How dare someone else ask for something that would be an improvement for them but not me, right? It'd be one thing if was something that would be a detriment to others, but I guess since this would largely be something mission runners would like, that makes this a bull-**** request anyways, huh? Makes me wonder how many people actually know what is -- or that there even is -- a difference between "convenience" and "laziness". I think you are imagining some kind of passionate tone in our replies maybe even a delek or something,. You are the doctor, you will get burner missions like everyone else or you will be exterminated. Burner missions are mixed with the other missions which means you can't just go to a burner mission agent and have as many burner missions as you like. Perhaps it is like that for that reason.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 240	Posted - 2015.06.24 06:23:10 - [56] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: Sobaan Tali wrote: Kind of funny how many people here like to pretend like they should be so up in arms and offended that anyone would stoop to such levels as to asking for such a thing. How dare someone else ask for something that would be an improvement for them but not me, right? It'd be one thing if was something that would be a detriment to others, but I guess since this would largely be something mission runners would like, that makes this a bull-**** request anyways, huh? Makes me wonder how many people actually know what is -- or that there even is -- a difference between "convenience" and "laziness". I think you are imagining some kind of passionate tone in our replies maybe even a delek or something,. You are the doctor, you will get burner missions like everyone else or you will be exterminated. Burner missions are mixed with the other missions which means you can't just go to a burner mission agent and have as many burner missions as you like. Perhaps it is like that for that reason. Dude, this is the second time today i have read a post from you where you quote someone but your response has little or nothing to do with what the person said. The only thing you said that is relevant to the quote is that Sobaan seems to think and i believe rightly so, that there is a whole lot of troll going on in this thread where really little or not controversy should exist. They are trolling because they like trolling; the discussion is irrelevant to them they just hop from thread to thread trolling as they go so yes there is a harsh tone in some of the posts that is unwarranted given the rather mundane request being made. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Nevil Oscillator 208	Posted - 2015.06.24 11:56:35 - [57] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Dude, this is the second time today i have read a post from you where you quote someone but your response has little or nothing to do with what the person said. t. Dude Burner missions are like they are so you can't farm them.. that's all I said and it is entirely relevant to this topic. If you want to crap on your own thread by pulling out the troll card rather than having an answer that is entirely up to you.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 243	Posted - 2015.06.25 06:57:03 - [58] - Quote Nevil Oscillator wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: Dude, this is the second time today i have read a post from you where you quote someone but your response has little or nothing to do with what the person said. t. Dude Burner missions are like they are so you can't farm them.. that's all I said and it is entirely relevant to this topic. If you want to crap on your own thread by pulling out the troll card rather than having an answer that is entirely up to you. I wouldn't mind seeing CCP remove the right to decline burners without penalty. okay you are 3 for 3 on confusing as hell commentary. wtf does framing burners have to do with rejecting them forever. You cant farm a burner if your NEVER RUNNING THEM !?!? Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Tyler Nietzsche Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic 87	Posted - 2015.06.25 07:03:35 - [59] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: okay you are 3 for 3 on confusing as hell commentary. wtf does framing burners have to do with rejecting them forever. You cant farm a burner if your NEVER RUNNING THEM !?!? Adding the burner missions to level 4 agents was a lazy move by CCP. It was ok after the first batch of missions, but now its getting annoying. They could have treated it as on opportunity to add some new interesting things to the game, or at least other agents.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 243	Posted - 2015.06.25 08:28:29 - [60] - Quote Tyler Nietzsche wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: okay you are 3 for 3 on confusing as hell commentary. wtf does framing burners have to do with rejecting them forever. You cant farm a burner if your NEVER RUNNING THEM !?!? Adding the burner missions to level 4 agents was a lazy move by CCP. It was ok after the first batch of missions, but now its getting annoying. They could have treated it as on opportunity to add some new interesting things to the game, or at least other agents. im going to guess based on your comfusing as hell comment that you are actually nevil oscillator posting on an alt. im not sure how to put this but you do know that my request is intended to remove the annoyance of burner mission rejection spam for those that choose to never run them. in short, you are some how arguing at the same time both for and against my proposal, hence my confusion. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

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