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Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:00:00 - [31] Twink I used to hear alot in DAoC. Was easy to fit higher lvl armor/weapons on a alt and power lvl them up in record time Also first heard "Zerg" there, but it came from the starcraft series i think. those lil critters that the terrains used to fight. zerg and blob seem to be interchangeable... Trading 101
JoeT Amarr Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:08:00 - [32] Originally by: Taaketa Frist Gank would be "Gank squads" I don't believe you can "gank" by yourself in Eve - maybe you can and I am just ignorant. What would you call a zealot attacking a tristin and podding him? --- If i'm posting on the forums, it's mostly cause i'm at work :D
Soporo	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:21:00 - [33] Only time I ever use "Toon" is when I am trying to put off a creepyor annoying RP'er, you may know the type. It's guarranteed to aggravate the hell out of them. Sane rp is fine, but a probably fat balding 40 year old rp'ing a necrophiliac gallente chick is.....not. As for pk'er, hell that's what most socalled pVp in EVE is, PK'ing. Just various sized ganks,or PKing...it's the most accurate "industry" description of what happens here mostly.
Spigoe Infinity Shipyard Masters Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:23:00 - [34] Originally by: Kaaii Also first heard "Zerg" there, but it came from the starcraft series i think. those lil critters that the terrains used to fight. zerg and blob seem to be interchangeable... Right on!
Taaketa Frist The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.26 01:35:00 - [35] Originally by: JoeT What would you call a zealot attacking a tristin and podding him? An ass... eh I mean "pirating". -------------- Dang nabit
Sal Alo Minmatar The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:10:00 - [36] Please give me a fishing pole and some lakes! Whoever is afraid of death dies every day. Whoever isn't, dies only once.
Rasta Rocketman Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.26 05:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Fuujin I haaaate all those terms, especially twink. I've never heard of twink, but the term toon is absolutely annoying. Also, I'm think gank/tank and rat comes from eve as I've seen those words make their way into the vocabulary slowly over the past few year, but I can't be sure. _______________________________________________
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2006.11.26 06:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Baleorg Originally by: Verus Potestas Giving a new player loot far beyond his ability to get on his own. An Eve example would be that GM scorpion incident please tell me more, sounds interesting :) Lets just say, the person in question is no longer afiliated with Crowd Control Productions Iceland...... And we cant say anymore, cause the ever vigilant modes will come and spank us for bringing it up.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.11.26 06:35:00 - [39] Toon fits better than Avatar as the avatar depicts yourself in any none-real context (Forum-Avatar in environments where the avatar does not represent an ingame persona eg). The pilot mugshots in EVE aren't representing you (the player behind the Avatar). Character ... well, in EVE you do not develop a character in the classic way of role playing. You anhanced attributes and skill levels do not make you look more powerfull or important here. Toon is the term used for a 'player' driven avatar in any none-real environment that does not represent the player himself and it is a neutral one on top. That some relate the term to 'persons' from toontown, looney toons or any other cartoon is their personal problem as long as they relate cartoons in a 'bad' way to their ingame persona. Remember that cartoon is the whole envorinment the toon is part of, and cartoon is used in a much wider context than just 'funny' drawn pictures. Twink: a toon that makes the ground twinkle when you take him by the feet and shake him because his equipment is/was really twinkling. Stuffed like a turkey, beyond reason. I encountered it in a pen and paper playing session on gamecon some 20 years ago for the first time knowingly. PK has been used since the earliest games past tabletops. As soon as there've been the first player versus player games over any distance (anonymity), the term came up. Feel free to find your own point of view without giving words a totally new meaning. If you want to know what I mean, check the meaning behind a certain 3-letter word for a sexual preference that's often used in a negative way and that the forum filter catches. Most people think it doesn't mean happy, merry ... Welcome to the influence of the christian church. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.26 07:03:00 - [40] Use of the word 'toon' in relation to an Eve character makes me want to self harm using a spoon Blog
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Baleorg Originally by: Verus Potestas Giving a new player loot far beyond his ability to get on his own. An Eve example would be that GM scorpion incident please tell me more, sounds interesting :) One month old player cruising around 0.0 in a scorpion fitted with all the best officer modules (Estamel, Tobias, Chelm). A certain GM found a new job after that. Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Jennifer Payne	Posted - 2006.11.26 10:24:00 - [42] Edited by: Jennifer Payne on 26/11/2006 10:24:00 Originally by: Baleorg Originally by: Verus Potestas Giving a new player loot far beyond his ability to get on his own. An Eve example would be that GM scorpion incident please tell me more, sounds interesting :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=373936
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Rasta Rocketman Originally by: Fuujin I haaaate all those terms, especially twink. I've never heard of twink, but the term toon is absolutely annoying. Also, I'm think gank/tank and rat comes from eve as I've seen those words make their way into the vocabulary slowly over the past few year, but I can't be sure. Gank is certainly an older term. It was/still is(?) a slang word for stealing something/grabbing/taking something. "Dude, he totally ganked your wallet.", etc. We were using that in the early 90's. :) ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Tsavong Lah Caldari Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:38:00 - [44] Originally by: Gothikia rofl, im assuming that twink in wow terms means something different to the twinks that I know of, hahaha qft. unless they're night elves, i guess I got a jar of dirt!
Ysolde Xen Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:39:00 - [45] Toon is just plain stupid-sounding. I always use Alt. Luckily for me, the only other MMO I'm poking right now is AO and the term alt is used on there frequently as well. Mob always confused the living daylights out of it. I thought it meant a mob as in a group of NPC enemies so people using it to refer to a single entity would annoy me no end as I'd get the wrong idea about what was what. Luckily not used in EVE, replaced with 'rat'. On a related note, can anyone at all explain why boss monsters and the likes are referred to as 'dynas' or 'dynabosses' that drop 'dynaloot' in other MMOs? The more I see of other games the more I'm glad of EVE and that my first MMO was EVE. It has no concept of twinking beyond cash (and now the new rigs which you won't need the skills to fly as long as someone else fits them onto your ship) and for that I'll always love it dearly. Compare it to other games where twinking has become so common it's now the assumed way of life and difficulty levels have been upped to take it into consideration. ----- It's not a crap ship, you're just flying it all wrong.
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:40:00 - [46] FFS IIRC AFAIK In 4 years of Fighter Ace, 6 months of Planetside, 3 months of EQII, 1 year of SWG and 4 months in WoW I never ever saw these used by any one. Then I joined EVE and within my first few minutes they were there. Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Redart PK comes from UO. Actually, the term was used in tabletop RPGs long before MMOs. It was used to define a person who killed other party members. And yes, I am a nerd...with guns. Oh, wait, they're projectiles. FFS, I'm screwed. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:48:00 - [48] Toon is a character from stuff like Loony Toons and Anime. to properly use Toon in an mmo i depend my 'Arbalest' Anvil Launchers! when it comes to PKing, etc EVE is the only really sucessfull open pvp game. most others fail horribly outside of asia(Lineage and L2 being examples, almost no NA/EU but huge in asia).
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.28 00:49:00 - [49] Edited by: Wrayeth on 28/11/2006 00:49:02 Originally by: Blacklight Use of the word 'toon' in relation to an Eve character makes me want to self harm using a spoon Angry: "I'll cut 'is 'eart out with a spoon!" Puzzled: "But, cousin, why a spoon?" Angry and annoyed: "Because it's dull, you twit, it'll hurt more." -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
Nuala Reece Caldari Starlancers	Posted - 2006.11.28 01:00:00 - [50] Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. I think it was one of those serendipitous things that it happened to fit well with 'pirate' (pi-rat), which I guess is why the word started to almost make in-character sense and soon extended to cover players as well as npc's. Starlancers
Jarra Wixx	Posted - 2006.11.28 01:02:00 - [51] Every culture, subculture, organization, gaming group, has its own vernacular, so I really don't care about the lingos, except when people say: "I'll just roll a new character (or toon)" There is no rolling involved in any MMORPG I've ever played. It's a reference to pen and paper RPGs in which character stats are derived from the actual rolling of dice. Rolling implies some sort of randomness in starting stats, which for several reasons is not really advisable for a MMORPG style game. I'm sure there probably are some MMOs that are randomized at the start, but neither WoW nor Eve are one of them. You make a new character, you do not roll one.
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 01:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Jarra Wixx Every culture, subculture, organization, gaming group, has its own vernacular, so I really don't care about the lingos, except when people say: "I'll just roll a new character (or toon)" There is no rolling involved in any MMORPG I've ever played. It's a reference to pen and paper RPGs in which character stats are derived from the actual rolling of dice. Rolling implies some sort of randomness in starting stats, which for several reasons is not really advisable for a MMORPG style game. I'm sure there probably are some MMOs that are randomized at the start, but neither WoW nor Eve are one of them. You make a new character, you do not roll one. Yeah, I began hearing people use "roll" for all sorts of actions back in ShadowBane. "I'll roll another 500 swords on my vendor" "I'll roll some armor off those noobs." "I'll roll a new character today." Sucks.
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 02:01:00 - [53] Originally by: Patch86 I'm kinda assuming that "Rat" is an entirely EVE thing, as a word for "NPC enemy" or "mob". You are 100% correct. It is only an EVE thing. The poeple who say otherwise are confused and I'll explain why. Originally by: Jack Nodeal Actually rat was used in uo, as a refference to a certain type of mob. (humanoid type) But when used in UO it was literally used to either describe a normal rat (the rodent), a giant rat, or a ratman. Specific monster types. In EVE its a shortened form of pirate and is basically synonimous with NPC from other games (and eve). Saying that in UO people called NPCs rats how they do in EVE is totally wrong. Originally by: Shar Tegral Even just touch before UO usage. It was in a game from Sierra called The Realm. Everyone started by stepping outside of town and killing rats. UO came along a few months after The Realm did and alot of transplants took it with them. I feel old knowing that. Again, just because some of the NPCs in that game happened to be literal rodent rats (the dirty creatures with long tails) it does not mean in that game rat (the shortened form of pirate, or even the word for the rodent) was used to describe NPCs. Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. 99% of Eve is OOC? No its not. People stay in character WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO moreso in EVE than any other game I've ever seen. BTW, you are 100% wrong about being annoyed and thne learning to "live with it" concerning people using the term "ratting" in EVE to describe killing NPCs. No one is talking about killing rodent creatures when they use that term in EVE. Its the shortened form of PIRATING, killing pirates. The hostile NPCs in EVE are pirates. Not rodents. So no one is using anything OOC when they say they are "Killing rats in belt 4."
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 02:01:00 - [54] Originally by: Patch86 I'm kinda assuming that "Rat" is an entirely EVE thing, as a word for "NPC enemy" or "mob". You are 100% correct. It is only an EVE thing. The poeple who say otherwise are confused and I'll explain why. Originally by: Jack Nodeal Actually rat was used in uo, as a refference to a certain type of mob. (humanoid type) But when used in UO it was literally used to either describe a normal rat (the rodent), a giant rat, or a ratman. Specific monster types. In EVE its a shortened form of pirate and is basically synonimous with NPC from other games (and eve). Saying that in UO people called NPCs rats how they do in EVE is totally wrong. Originally by: Shar Tegral Even just touch before UO usage. It was in a game from Sierra called The Realm. Everyone started by stepping outside of town and killing rats. UO came along a few months after The Realm did and alot of transplants took it with them. I feel old knowing that. Again, just because some of the NPCs in that game happened to be literal rodent rats (the dirty creatures with long tails) it does not mean in that game rat (the shortened form of pirate, or even the word for the rodent) was used to describe NPCs. Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. 99% of Eve is OOC? No its not. People stay in character WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO moreso in EVE than any other game I've ever seen. BTW, you are 100% wrong about being annoyed and thne learning to "live with it" concerning people using the term "ratting" in EVE to describe killing NPCs. No one is talking about killing rodent creatures when they use that term in EVE. Its the shortened form of PIRATING, killing pirates. The hostile NPCs in EVE are pirates. Not rodents. So no one is using anything OOC when they say they are "Killing rats in belt 4."
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 02:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Patch86 I'm kinda assuming that "Rat" is an entirely EVE thing, as a word for "NPC enemy" or "mob". You are 100% correct. It is only an EVE thing. The poeple who say otherwise are confused and I'll explain why. Originally by: Jack Nodeal Actually rat was used in uo, as a refference to a certain type of mob. (humanoid type) But when used in UO it was literally used to either describe a normal rat (the rodent), a giant rat, or a ratman. Specific monster types. In EVE its a shortened form of pirate and is basically synonimous with NPC from other games (and eve). Saying that in UO people called NPCs rats how they do in EVE is totally wrong. Originally by: Shar Tegral Even just touch before UO usage. It was in a game from Sierra called The Realm. Everyone started by stepping outside of town and killing rats. UO came along a few months after The Realm did and alot of transplants took it with them. I feel old knowing that. Again, just because some of the NPCs in that game happened to be literal rodent rats (the dirty creatures with long tails) it does not mean in that game rat (the shortened form of pirate, or even the word for the rodent) was used to describe NPCs. Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. 99% of Eve is OOC? No its not. People stay in character WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO moreso in EVE than any other game I've ever seen. BTW, you are 100% wrong about being annoyed and thne learning to "live with it" concerning people using the term "ratting" in EVE to describe killing NPCs. No one is talking about killing rodent creatures when they use that term in EVE. Its the shortened form of PIRATING, killing pirates. The hostile NPCs in EVE are pirates. Not rodents. So no one is using anything OOC when they say they are "Killing rats in belt 4."
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 02:01:00 - [56] Originally by: Patch86 I'm kinda assuming that "Rat" is an entirely EVE thing, as a word for "NPC enemy" or "mob". You are 100% correct. It is only an EVE thing. The poeple who say otherwise are confused and I'll explain why. Originally by: Jack Nodeal Actually rat was used in uo, as a refference to a certain type of mob. (humanoid type) But when used in UO it was literally used to either describe a normal rat (the rodent), a giant rat, or a ratman. Specific monster types. In EVE its a shortened form of pirate and is basically synonimous with NPC from other games (and eve). Saying that in UO people called NPCs rats how they do in EVE is totally wrong. Originally by: Shar Tegral Even just touch before UO usage. It was in a game from Sierra called The Realm. Everyone started by stepping outside of town and killing rats. UO came along a few months after The Realm did and alot of transplants took it with them. I feel old knowing that. Again, just because some of the NPCs in that game happened to be literal rodent rats (the dirty creatures with long tails) it does not mean in that game rat (the shortened form of pirate, or even the word for the rodent) was used to describe NPCs. Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. 99% of Eve is OOC? No its not. People stay in character WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO moreso in EVE than any other game I've ever seen. BTW, you are 100% wrong about being annoyed and thne learning to "live with it" concerning people using the term "ratting" in EVE to describe killing NPCs. No one is talking about killing rodent creatures when they use that term in EVE. Its the shortened form of PIRATING, killing pirates. The hostile NPCs in EVE are pirates. Not rodents. So no one is using anything OOC when they say they are "Killing rats in belt 4."
Darcie Wray	Posted - 2006.11.28 02:01:00 - [57] Originally by: Patch86 I'm kinda assuming that "Rat" is an entirely EVE thing, as a word for "NPC enemy" or "mob". You are 100% correct. It is only an EVE thing. The poeple who say otherwise are confused and I'll explain why. Originally by: Jack Nodeal Actually rat was used in uo, as a refference to a certain type of mob. (humanoid type) But when used in UO it was literally used to either describe a normal rat (the rodent), a giant rat, or a ratman. Specific monster types. In EVE its a shortened form of pirate and is basically synonimous with NPC from other games (and eve). Saying that in UO people called NPCs rats how they do in EVE is totally wrong. Originally by: Shar Tegral Even just touch before UO usage. It was in a game from Sierra called The Realm. Everyone started by stepping outside of town and killing rats. UO came along a few months after The Realm did and alot of transplants took it with them. I feel old knowing that. Again, just because some of the NPCs in that game happened to be literal rodent rats (the dirty creatures with long tails) it does not mean in that game rat (the shortened form of pirate, or even the word for the rodent) was used to describe NPCs. Originally by: Jasper De'tami Rats in fantasy based RPGs, online, single player offline, text based and table top pencil and paper, are a very common first enemy. When I started eve it drove me nuts that people would use such an insanely out of character term for NPCs(being its space, not fantasy) but I quickly learning 99% of eve is OOC, so I let it go. 99% of Eve is OOC? No its not. People stay in character WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO moreso in EVE than any other game I've ever seen. BTW, you are 100% wrong about being annoyed and thne learning to "live with it" concerning people using the term "ratting" in EVE to describe killing NPCs. No one is talking about killing rodent creatures when they use that term in EVE. Its the shortened form of PIRATING, killing pirates. The hostile NPCs in EVE are pirates. Not rodents. So no one is using anything OOC when they say they are "Killing rats in belt 4."
Avyendha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.11.28 16:06:00 - [58] Originally by: Rasta Rocketman Originally by: Fuujin I haaaate all those terms, especially twink. I've never heard of twink, but the term toon is absolutely annoying. Also, I'm think gank/tank and rat comes from eve as I've seen those words make their way into the vocabulary slowly over the past few year, but I can't be sure. gank, tank is not eve related. It was at least used from EQ on. Especially tank.
Avyendha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.11.28 16:06:00 - [59] Originally by: Rasta Rocketman Originally by: Fuujin I haaaate all those terms, especially twink. I've never heard of twink, but the term toon is absolutely annoying. Also, I'm think gank/tank and rat comes from eve as I've seen those words make their way into the vocabulary slowly over the past few year, but I can't be sure. gank, tank is not eve related. It was at least used from EQ on. Especially tank.
Avyendha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.11.28 16:06:00 - [60] Originally by: Rasta Rocketman Originally by: Fuujin I haaaate all those terms, especially twink. I've never heard of twink, but the term toon is absolutely annoying. Also, I'm think gank/tank and rat comes from eve as I've seen those words make their way into the vocabulary slowly over the past few year, but I can't be sure. gank, tank is not eve related. It was at least used from EQ on. Especially tank.

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