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Jenna Tekitsu Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.06.25 21:39:07 - [1] - Quote So the ore capacity isn't that much difference for such an investment. My retriever has an ore hold of 27,500 at the moment, and according to the attributes of the info page of the mackinaw, it has 28,000. I'm sure I can boost it up a bit, but what is so good about the Mackinaw? I would love the Hulk, but I don't have a barge to haul all the jettisoned materials back home. Unless I'm missing something, could someone let me know if it is technically worth it to upgrade, or just save up in the Retriever and buy another pvp type ship. P.S. I just recently returned after a year or so break and am a little rusty on the changes/attributes of the ships. Thank you, and sorry if this is a noob question. Edit: I want to work my way up to an Orca or Charon, so would I acquire the currency faster with saving what I have and continue with a Retriever or spend 200 mil to get a Mackinaw. How big is the yield difference?
Hengle Teron Explosions Delivered with Love 54314	Posted - 2015.06.25 21:43:15 - [2] - Quote 28k + 25% = 35k That and with max skill a 10% cycle time reduction for harvesters. So 11% more stuff mined in same time.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22092	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:14:14 - [3] - Quote Go for the Mackinaw. Anything that costs 160mil more is always better. For me, for you, for the guy who sells it to you, everyone wins! *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
John E Normus The Conference Elite CODE. 571	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:16:09 - [4] - Quote Mackinaws are OP bro, get one ASAP! Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 243	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:22:40 - [5] - Quote Jenna Tekitsu wrote: So the ore capacity isn't that much difference for such an investment. My retriever has an ore hold of 27,500 at the moment, and according to the attributes of the info page of the mackinaw, it has 28,000. I'm sure I can boost it up a bit, but what is so good about the Mackinaw? I would love the Hulk, but I don't have a barge to haul all the jettisoned materials back home. Unless I'm missing something, could someone let me know if it is technically worth it to upgrade, or just save up in the Retriever and buy another pvp type ship. P.S. I just recently returned after a year or so break and am a little rusty on the changes/attributes of the ships. Thank you, and sorry if this is a noob question. Edit: I want to work my way up to an Orca or Charon, so would I acquire the currency faster with saving what I have and continue with a Retriever or spend 200 mil to get a Mackinaw. How big is the yield difference? The retriever is much more likely to be a gank magnet since you really have to pretty much give up its mining capabilities to make it even sorta gank resistant. And you'll find you love the better fitting capability of the Mackinaw, the retriever has for a long time needed a bit more lenience in its fitting profile. Also, unless you are going to be a perfect ORCA pilot and boost a regularly organized mining fleet the CHARON is a far superior option to the ORCA (ive used both and the orca seems cool till you start flying it realize that it really only shines as a fleet assistance ship). I had an orca for a couple months before i sold it, ive had my Charon for about 2 years and use it almost every single day. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Paranoid Loyd 5995	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:31:40 - [6] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: The retriever is much more likely to be a gank magnet Confirming if I had my choice between ganking a 40 mil isk barge and a 200 mil isk barge I would choose the cheaper one. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Marsha Mallow 2270	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:43:47 - [7] - Quote What they are trying to tell you, in trollspeak, is to buy the most cost efficient tanky ship. Even if it means losing a small amount of cargo, a well tanked t1 ship makes you less of a target for gankers and if it dies it's not excruciating to replace. You might find the NC forums more helpful, returning players are welcome there too. If you want this topic moved, click the flag symbol next to the time in the top line of your post [Report] and when the reason popup box comes up request the topic is moved there. Mods might move it anyway. Welcome back btw Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing' Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13509	Posted - 2015.06.25 22:46:59 - [8] - Quote It absolutely is worth it to buy a Mackinaw, and make sure you fill the lowslots with cargo expanders too. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
ashley Eoner 481	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:21:02 - [9] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: The retriever is much more likely to be a gank magnet Confirming if I had my choice between ganking a 40 mil isk barge and a 200 mil isk barge I would choose the cheaper one. Yeah that was my first though too. A retriever can be tanked to survive against one catalyst in .5 space with merely an adaptive mid, cheap t1 tank rigs, and a DCU in the low leaving 2 spots for mining laser upgrades.
Jenna Tekitsu Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:33:58 - [10] - Quote Thank you all so much for the help haha, this is why I love Eve - Fantastic and committed community!. Thank you all, and very much appreciate your help!

Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13512	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:04:56 - [11] - Quote Jenna Tekitsu wrote: Thank you all so much for the help haha, this is why I love Eve - Fantastic and committed community!. Thank you all, and very much appreciate your help! No problem. Make sure you pick up a mining permit from an authorized New Order agent. For only 10 million isk, you will be granted the dispensation to mine in highsec for an entire calendar year. That's a bargain, if you ask me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Freya Sertan Ministry of War Amarr Empire 224	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:17:09 - [12] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Jenna Tekitsu wrote: Thank you all so much for the help haha, this is why I love Eve - Fantastic and committed community!. Thank you all, and very much appreciate your help! No problem. Make sure you pick up a mining permit from an authorized New Order agent. For only 10 million isk, you will be granted the dispensation to mine in highsec for an entire calendar year. That's a bargain, if you ask me. Best damn 10m I have ever spent... ...and I don't even mine!! New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face. Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13512	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:20:25 - [13] - Quote Freya Sertan wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Jenna Tekitsu wrote: Thank you all so much for the help haha, this is why I love Eve - Fantastic and committed community!. Thank you all, and very much appreciate your help! No problem. Make sure you pick up a mining permit from an authorized New Order agent. For only 10 million isk, you will be granted the dispensation to mine in highsec for an entire calendar year. That's a bargain, if you ask me. Best damn 10m I have ever spent... ...and I don't even mine!! That's the best part about permits, actually. While ostensibly just for miners, they have a myriad of applications in both the hauling and mission running fields. It's the gift that keeps on giving. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Freya Sertan Ministry of War Amarr Empire 224	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:21:18 - [14] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Freya Sertan wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Jenna Tekitsu wrote: Thank you all so much for the help haha, this is why I love Eve - Fantastic and committed community!. Thank you all, and very much appreciate your help! No problem. Make sure you pick up a mining permit from an authorized New Order agent. For only 10 million isk, you will be granted the dispensation to mine in highsec for an entire calendar year. That's a bargain, if you ask me. Best damn 10m I have ever spent... ...and I don't even mine!! That's the best part about permits, actually. While ostensibly just for miners, they have a myriad of applications in both the hauling and mission running fields. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Truly. New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face. Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Wendrika Hydreiga 400	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:02:31 - [15] - Quote If you can fly an Exhumer, then you should always pick the superior choice! Which is the Skiff! Ore hold and yield are overrated anyways.
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 176	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:28:19 - [16] - Quote John E Normus wrote: Mackinaws are OP bro, get one ASAP! CODE. - Helping people in to and out of Mackinaws. Serious answer is... what will you do if (or when) it gets popped?
Svenja Timofeyeva Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 125	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:49:49 - [17] - Quote Are you planning on playing afk? If not send me mail. No need wasting time with mack.
Pixie Tickle Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:49:49 - [18] - Quote Are you planning on playing afk? If not send me mail. No need wasting time with mack.
ashley Eoner 481	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:56:07 - [19] - Quote Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: If you can fly an Exhumer, then you should always pick the superior choice! Which is the Skiff! Ore hold and yield are overrated anyways. Last I knew the skiff had barely better yield over a mack excluding oops I mined 500 ore from that last cycle cause the roid was almost dead.
Damnskippy Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel 48	Posted - 2015.06.26 02:14:18 - [20] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: If you can fly an Exhumer, then you should always pick the superior choice! Which is the Skiff! Ore hold and yield are overrated anyways. Last I knew the skiff had barely better yield over a mack excluding oops I mined 500 ore from that last cycle cause the roid was almost dead. Where the skiff shines is the fact it's annoyingly difficult to suicide gank. A tanked skiff will usually be ignored in preference of an easier target. If you're always at the keyboard and taking necessary steps to avoid getting popped, the mack is a better choice. The question is; are you prepared to bet 200 mil that you will be able to outplay a suicide gank squad when the time comes?

Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 273	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:04:06 - [21] - Quote Shovel vs. Excavator
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1233	Posted - 2015.06.26 07:04:51 - [22] - Quote Op, just remember to only fly what you can afford to lose. the Code ALWAYS wins
Tyler Startide Furor Teutonicus Lux Aetherna 0	Posted - 2015.06.26 07:44:49 - [23] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Op, just remember to only fly what you can afford to lose. A helpful and serious advice from a CODE member?
ashley Eoner 481	Posted - 2015.06.26 08:45:21 - [24] - Quote Damnskippy wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: If you can fly an Exhumer, then you should always pick the superior choice! Which is the Skiff! Ore hold and yield are overrated anyways. Last I knew the skiff had barely better yield over a mack excluding oops I mined 500 ore from that last cycle cause the roid was almost dead. Where the skiff shines is the fact it's annoyingly difficult to suicide gank. A tanked skiff will usually be ignored in preference of an easier target. If you're always at the keyboard and taking necessary steps to avoid getting popped, the mack is a better choice. The question is; are you prepared to bet 200 mil that you will be able to outplay a suicide gank squad when the time comes? Security status of the system really comes into play at this point. A well tanked mack can have +60k ehp vs void. That would survive quite a bit more in a .8 then it would in a .5.
Kiddoomer ScrewWork Inc. 62	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:21:59 - [25] - Quote Whatever is your choice, don't forget the Higgs Anchor rig, and mine while at least 3/4 of your max speed all the time aligned to a bookmark (previously made with a fast frigate) or celestials around your favorite belts. And if you choose the Mack (best ship evuur :D) don't even dare undocking her without a damage control unit and thermal+kin shield resistances. Depending on your skils and if you have a cpu implant, you can fit 2 MLU with that. A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3716	Posted - 2015.06.26 13:42:02 - [26] - Quote Whatever you fly, bear this table in mind. 73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
Petre en Thielles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2015.06.26 13:55:07 - [27] - Quote Damnskippy wrote: Where the skiff shines is the fact it's annoyingly difficult to suicide gank. A tanked skiff will usually be ignored in preference of an easier target. If you're always at the keyboard and taking necessary steps to avoid getting popped, the mack is a better choice. The question is; are you prepared to bet 200 mil that you will be able to outplay a suicide gank squad when the time comes? Or, you simply join a null corp and mine in 100% safety in the blue doughnut. Null is infinitely safer than HS for mining/industry.
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet 1187	Posted - 2015.06.26 14:04:27 - [28] - Quote Always keep an eye in local and always fly a flight of EC-300 ECM Drones. CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 428	Posted - 2015.06.27 10:34:26 - [29] - Quote Jenna Tekitsu wrote: So the ore capacity isn't that much difference for such an investment. My retriever has an ore hold of 27,500 at the moment, and according to the attributes of the info page of the mackinaw, it has 28,000. I'm sure I can boost it up a bit, but what is so good about the Mackinaw? I would love the Hulk, but I don't have a barge to haul all the jettisoned materials back home. Unless I'm missing something, could someone let me know if it is technically worth it to upgrade, or just save up in the Retriever and buy another pvp type ship. P.S. I just recently returned after a year or so break and am a little rusty on the changes/attributes of the ships. Thank you, and sorry if this is a noob question. Edit: I want to work my way up to an Orca or Charon, so would I acquire the currency faster with saving what I have and continue with a Retriever or spend 200 mil to get a Mackinaw. How big is the yield difference? Buy a Mining permit first. Only 10 mil for a whole year of undisturbed mackinaw mining. I have them on offer with a 10% discount; evemail me.
Svenja Timofeyeva Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2015.06.27 10:37:27 - [30] - Quote Max yield covetor with hauler all the way. lol afk players with low yield.

Cyborg Girl86 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2015.06.27 11:03:43 - [31] - Quote Procurer or Skiff. With an Orca fitted for pure shield & hull tank boosting if available. But its all a matter of personal choice. I prefer tank-ability.
Svenja Timofeyeva Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2015.06.27 11:10:19 - [32] - Quote Cyborg Girl86 wrote: Procurer or Skiff. With an Orca fitted for pure shield & hull tank boosting if available. But its all a matter of personal choice. I prefer tank-ability. Choice not important, but reason behind choice. If you can not guarantee being atk, you sacrifice.
Cyborg Girl86 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2015.06.27 11:12:48 - [33] - Quote I never play afk. Playing afk is the equivalent of letting a trained helper monkey play EVE for you while you go jerk off or something. I don't do it because its dumb
Svenja Timofeyeva Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2015.06.27 13:47:57 - [34] - Quote Cyborg Girl86 wrote: I never play afk. Playing afk is the equivalent of letting a trained helper monkey play EVE for you while you go jerk off or something. I don't do it because its dumb Then you don't need mine in skiff or proc because its dumb.
Atomic Virulent Dark Matter Industrial 127	Posted - 2015.06.28 01:02:04 - [35] - Quote If you have 2B ISK in your wallet that you plan to dedicate to replacing one every time DOUCHE. ganks you in highsec, then yes, it's worth it.. or if you have the fluffy carebear borders of any null entity then yes, it may be well worth it except for when wh spawn in your area. If I could get everyone to just treat the mack and hulk as if they didn't even exist in the game to counter the ganking lolz.... things would change.. but there are too many "it'll never happen to me.. " morons in the game so the cycle continues... kind of like when a corporate exec said, "HEY, lets take the same shtty game and just change like 2 things and add 3 levels the same time every year and call it 2,3,4, etc... and charge full price" and people kept buying it in ever growing numbers causing the corporation to get even more and more jewier each year with map packs, skins and weapons.... well you bring it on yourselves.. You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE.
Svenja Timofeyeva Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 134	Posted - 2015.06.28 08:07:01 - [36] - Quote You mental case. It's a game, not real. You die because you deserved it. Get lost.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 600	Posted - 2015.06.28 08:44:59 - [37] - Quote Moved to Ships & Modules. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1104	Posted - 2015.06.28 10:46:13 - [38] - Quote Atomic Virulent wrote: If I could get everyone to just treat the mack and hulk as if they didn't even exist in the game to counter the ganking lolz.... things would change.. but there are too many "it'll never happen to me.. " morons in the game so the cycle continues... This is how the game is suppose to work; risk vs. reward. Some players will see that increased yield and take a chance that they will be able to avoid the gankers. Other players see another player do that and decide to call them on it and destroy their ship. This constantly shifting balance of risk vs. reward is what keeps the game interesting, interactive and full of conflict. If everyone was required to fly (nearly) invulnerable Skiffs the game would be terribly boring. The option to fly something with more yield, but with greater risk, is at the core of this game. Choosing more risk for more reward does not automatically make you "a moron". Suicide ganking is an intended mechanic by CCP and is one of the few things makes any player decisions regarding mining in highsec meaningful. Without it the gameplay would be fit max-yield Exhumer, warp to belt and press F1, go make sandwich - literally no player decisions to make or any player engagement. To the OP, the Mackinaw provides more reward but at more risk. Only you can decide if you are willing to tolerate that risk and can afford the loss if a ganker comes along and takes your shiny Exhumer. That is quintessential dilemma in most aspects of Eve.
Elinarien Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2015.06.28 15:26:36 - [39] - Quote Whilst the overall level threat from CODE is massively overplayed, it is well worth making use of DOTLAN and zKillboard to find systems where ganking activity is low - and believe me there are plenty of nice quiet corners of 0.6 and 0.7 high sec away from the obvious hubs, trade tunnels etc where the odd CODE presence is the exception rather than the rule.
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 335	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:33:50 - [40] - Quote Stick with the Retriever and spend your time training some PvP, exploration, etc. -- unless you know you love mining. The usual strategy with a Retriever is to fit it strong enough to ward off a solo ganker and cheap enough that it's not a bother to lose it (this requires a cheapish clone too). For example: [Retriever, Ore Balanced] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Damage Control II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I ~15K EHP with moderate skills. 63% shield resist against Kin/Therm ~950 ore yield - you can swap the DC for another laser upgrade if you don't mind the extra risk Get a procurer to mine with if you lose your ship or know that trouble is around.

HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 884	Posted - 2015.07.03 12:00:43 - [41] - Quote Damnskippy wrote: Where the skiff shines is the fact it's annoyingly difficult to suicide gank. A tanked skiff will usually be ignored in preference of an easier target. If you're always at the keyboard and taking necessary steps to avoid getting popped, the mack is a better choice. The question is; are you prepared to bet 200 mil that you will be able to outplay a suicide gank squad when the time comes? LOVL (Laughing out VERY loud). Until I stopped mining some months ago I had approx. 8-10 ganking attempts on my Retrievers and my Mackis. I died not even once as you can see from my killboard. And there was even one time a guy pulling away Concord in system for a longer spawn time. But I survived even that attack in a Retrievern and he seemd to be full skilled Catalyst Ganker (All T2 stuff and so on. I remember it because he left 3x quite nice loot / extra income^^). And that was usually afk mining. When mining actively I had Hulks and Covetors! Know what to do and do not just bother with how you maximise your mining yield. Don't get me wrong. Skiff and Procurers are well worth to be choosen, but just for the lazy people who do not care for efficiency and have no idea on how to maximise it! !!! BITTE MEINE ANTWORTEN IM LIKE THEMA NICHT MÖGEN!!! !!! DO NOT LIKE MY POSTS IN THE LIKE IT THREAD!!!! With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 884	Posted - 2015.07.03 12:15:54 - [42] - Quote Shiloh Templeton wrote: The usual strategy with a Retriever is to fit it strong enough to ward off a solo ganker and cheap enough that it's not a bother to lose it (this requires a cheapish clone too). For example: [Retriever, Ore Balanced] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Damage Control II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I If that is the strategy, you have a lot to improve. [Retriever, Ore Balanced] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Damage Control II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Transverse Bulkhead I Medium Transverse Bulkhead I Medium Transverse Bulkhead I Same yield. 20.6k EHP against Catalyst. !!! BITTE MEINE ANTWORTEN IM LIKE THEMA NICHT MÖGEN!!! !!! DO NOT LIKE MY POSTS IN THE LIKE IT THREAD!!!! With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 342	Posted - 2015.07.05 03:23:33 - [43] - Quote HoruSeth wrote: If that is the strategy, you have a lot to improve. I like it. Your fit increased the EHP on a skilled char from 16,651 to 19,442 with better cap.
GordonO Wide Open Throttle 133	Posted - 2015.07.07 00:40:57 - [44] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: ove the better fitting capability of the Mackinaw, the retriever has for a long time needed a bit more lenience in its fitting profile. Also, unless you are going to be a perfect ORCA pilot and boost a regularly organized mining fleet the CHARON is a far superior option to the ORCA (ive used both and the orca seems cool till you start flying it realize that it really only shines as a fleet assistance ship). I had an orca for a couple months before i sold it, ive had my Charon for about 2 years and use it almost every single day. If you are running 2 accounts and mining, you better of in 2 mack's. If you running a 3 man team an orca with 2 hulks is the way to go, even with t1 boosts it makes a difference. Running a freighter in a mining fleet will always be in addition to having an orca and you will need more than half a dozen miners to make it even profitable. ... What next ??
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 889	Posted - 2015.07.07 08:05:40 - [45] - Quote GordonO wrote: If you are running 2 accounts and mining, you better of in 2 mack's. Not really. I would always prefer 1 orca and 1 Hulk if you mine actively. If not you are of course better with 2 Macks. Orca + Hulk (ALL relevant V) generates theoretically, but more important realistically more income! DC Mackinaw against DC Hulk = 6% plus income with the Hulk DC Mackinaw against max-yield Hulk = 17'% more income in reality you will gain more income from Hulk as well because you have less empty cycles! A DC Hulk is not necessary as you can gain a lot of tank from using Siege and Armor Warfare Links, because with one Hulk, you only need Laser Optimization Link! And/Or use several other possible tactics to counter solo gankers. So effectively I would say, that an Orca+Hulk Team generates approx. 20% more income. Surprised? Guess yes :) With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me. Praise Bob!


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