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Phellian
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Posted - 2003.11.14 02:44:00 -
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When are you, CCP, going to fix this exploit? There is no retalation or defense for it...with enough drones/containers every ship coming through can be killed...this is an EXPLOIT period...
the tactic has nothing to do with the game...but with opponents conection speed and computer speed...
CCP you will be losing a lot of players if this isn't stopped soon...
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2003.11.14 02:56:00 -
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Exploit? Dude.. if your going into 0.0 there is going to be some risk.. you cant expect to go into 0.0 and not have the probability of getting destroyed.
So if it were up to you, it would be impossible to catch somebody in 0.0 as hard as it is already. Stay in Empire space if you dont want to die and get real 
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Phellian
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Posted - 2003.11.14 02:57:00 -
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Sarum Prime isn't 0.0 space...
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:09:00 -
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I dream of a day where once, just once we have the 1st page of the forums clear of pathetic whingers moaning about jumpin camping, just stfu will you? CCP have made their decision about this issue so deal with it until the next patch.
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Doc Brown
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:25:00 -
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TomB has said that they are aware of it and are working on it.
From what I know, I think that the fix will take a while due to the complexity involved.
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Phellian
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:47:00 -
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not moaning...just stating facts...
Exploit = Cheat = Jump in Camping
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:46:00 -
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Exploit? Dude.. if your going into 0.0 there is going to be some risk.. you cant expect to go into 0.0 and not have the probability of getting destroyed.
So if it were up to you, it would be impossible to catch somebody in 0.0 as hard as it is already. Stay in Empire space if you dont want to die and get real
IT HAPPENS IN 0.4 SPACE AND DOWN FOR HOURS ON END, IT IS A ******* EXPLOIT!!!!
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:48:00 -
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I dream of a day where once, just once we have the 1st page of the forums clear of pathetic whingers moaning about jumpin camping, just stfu will you? CCP have made their decision about this issue so deal with it until the next patch.
Ya deal with it by using that "CANCEL" button on the subscription screen.......let the money talk!!!!
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:13:00 -
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Exploit? Dude.. if your going into 0.0 there is going to be some risk.. you cant expect to go into 0.0 and not have the probability of getting destroyed.
So if it were up to you, it would be impossible to catch somebody in 0.0 as hard as it is already. Stay in Empire space if you dont want to die and get real
what the **** is this? a pathetic attempt to justify entry point lag camping?
why don't you just come out and say what you mean? ("im sorry, I don't have enough skill to kill anyone when they can actually control their ship, i require them to not be present for me to destroy them")
only a moron, with little to no real pvp skill will go on to make such a retarded assumption as there being no way to get kills as a pirate other than lag camping spawn points.
you weak little newbie.
with that said, I will concur with the original poster.
fix the lag at the jump in points, faster.
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Skokeh
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:36:00 -
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CCp are working on it - it will be changed
whatever u say - in the meantime, its a fking ghey way of killing people tho, as they dont even get a chance to fight back
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:42:00 -
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Sentry Guns = Cheat = Exploit
Sentry guns -
- 300 Damage per 2 seconds
- No Accuracy Falloff
- Hitpoints of prolly 4-5 battleships if not more.
- Cannot be damped, after patch will not be jammable
- Range of 60km with no accuracy fall off
- Respawn every 2 minutes after destruction
- Sentry guns are GOD.
Camping Jump in points is a exploit to you carebears, Sentry guns are a exploit to us pirates, neither are considered a exploit to CCP, so where even, stfu.
No pirate camping a jump in is like this.
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Jonathon Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:50:00 -
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Camping Jump in points is a exploit to you carebears, Sentry guns are a exploit to us pirates, neither are considered a exploit to CCP, so where even, stfu.
Such wonderfully flawed logic; that you can't attack players within 60km of a stationary target inside empire space is somehow justification for the continued use of an clear-cut exploit.
Sorry, Tank CEO, but if you're camping jump-in points, you're an exploiter and deserve to be banned.
It really is that simple.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 14/11/2003 05:53:44
blah blah blah, shut up
Not a exploit confirmed by GM dumbass.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:58:00 -
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Which part of Empire Space dont you understand? There are no sentry guns out side of Empire Space.
Even without sentry guns, little gits like you would claim it is their right to use exploits. I could careless if you want to pirate, I do care that you abuse broken game mechanics.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 14/11/2003 06:01:10
NVA uses it, Fountain Alliance uses it, lets ban them all too ya. Everyone uses it, its a 'tactic'. What part do you not understand, aint nobody in 0.0 non-empire space.
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Jonathon Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:04:00 -
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blah blah blah, shut up
If that's the best argument you can formulate, Tank CEO, I'd strongly advise you to simply stop posting; and let someone brighter than you carry your side of the argument.
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Not a exploit confirmed by GM
The reason that CCP has not officially declared JIP camping as an Exploit; is because in the 5 minutes after the declaration was made, they would be swamped with hundreds of petitions from people who had lost ships to JIP camping demanding replacements as their loss was due to an Exploit.
Instead, the CCP devs make statements such as:
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TomB > Camping spawn locations in solar systems is not (what) we intended
and then start work on the "fix" to this Exploit.
Enjoy it while you can, Tank CEO.. this Exploit isn't going to last much longer.
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dumbass.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:06:00 -
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Personally, I don't like it either but its the only place to actually pirate and get 'traffic'. I was just saying and trying to prove a point and I already explained my thoughts many posts ago and will not do it again.
Im done argueing
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:07:00 -
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Cool, so all those alliances have no players. Oh, my bad, I almost forgot it was you talking, turning my Tank translator on..."CCP will not let me kill noobies and I dont want to go against the PvP players."
JIP camping is a lame tactic that every other MMORPG I have ever seen has banned for using that type of exploit. It is sad that CCP has so many problems, like mining in high security area, that they cannot get around to fixing it.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:09:00 -
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See my post 
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:11:00 -
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Funny, I thought Space Invaders camped gates with sentry guns quite profitably for a while...
Sorry, but there isn't a single sentry gun in 0.0 space. None. Zero. Nada. You want to pirate in 0.4 space? Maybe you should get the hint that you aren't supposed to camp there! Is it SO hard to figure out that CCP's intentions are something like:
1.0-0.5 = safe from random killing but not wars
0.4-0.1 = gates are safe, belts and points of interest are not
0.0 = unrestricted PVP
In other words, IF YOU WANT TO CAMP GATES GO TO 0.0 SPACE or at least bring a large enough force to deal with the guns. Otherwise camp 0.0 or <gasp> DON'T CAMP AT ALL! There ARE other ways to pirate than sitting around waiting for someone to blunder into a blockade you know... (and if you don't know, I'm certainly not telling you how because I don't LIKE pirates  )
But if you can't think of a way to make piracy work without lame 'tactics' like lag camping maybe you need to consider a change of careers. Or just declare war on , oh... MASS, Evolution, and Xanadu... you'd get all the action you could ever want without camping anything! 
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 14/11/2003 06:14:43
Anyone in a .4 or lower security space is NOT a newbie, get threw that your head already. CCP shouldnt interfer with my killing, why dont you get in a ship and come prevent me from killing your so called precious noobs in battleships.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 14/11/2003 06:17:28
Yea right, wars are like tug of wars. No one fights unless they have more numbers, at least the non-pirate corporations are like that. O btw, if i hadnt said it before or if you didn't see, NO ONE IS IN 0.0 SPACE. NO Trade Routes, Nothing, im a pirate, i camp places that have trade routes going threw. DUH,
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Jonathon Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:24:00 -
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Personally, I don't like it either but its the only place to actually pirate and get 'traffic'. I was just saying and trying to prove a point and I already explained my thoughts many posts ago and will not do it again.
JIP camps are not the "only place to pirate".
I've warped around the galaxy quite a bit since beta 7.. there are gates with a 35km warp in; (and some stations with up to 60km warp ins), there are weapons with 80?90?km optimal range, and as you kindly pointed out, sentry guns have a 60km range.
I look at player piracy in the same manner as I do NPC hunting, though on a reverse scale .. hunting NPCs in 0.0 is much harder than hunting NPCs in 0.8.
In the same manner, hunting PCs in 0.4 is much harder than huting PCs in 0.0 due to the sentry guns.
Blaming CCP for your own inadequacies doesn't justify the continued use of an exploit.
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Im done argueing
Probably wise.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:31:00 -
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Yeah, Tank, send people to your JIP camp with all the mining drones out and cans floating around.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Stuart Ward
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:36:00 -
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The thing is Tank, your tactic as you call it involves no skill, and isn't pirating in the true sense. Its like taking the Marie Celeste by storm. "Theres no-one there !!!".
Basically you are attacking a ship with no-one at the helm, the least you could do is jam it before the player enters, then Hail the pirate demanding a payment or the ship will be destroyed. Give the guy an option instead of an instant egg to ride home in. (But knowing you, the egg will be gone too) And what benefit do you get from pod kill if the guy has no bounty ?
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.14 06:36:00 -
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chill dude tank. I haven't seen you this worked up in a long time and this is an old and very tired repeat of a thread already posted a dozen times. where is redundancy when you need her.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.14 07:52:00 -
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everyone notice how adamant tank is when he defends jump in camping.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.14 08:29:00 -
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When will both sides learn that calling eachother dumbass wont get you to win any argument or create sympathy for a cause.
When I feel like it I might write a long post why we camp JIPs, and dont see a better way to pirate.
This is not a hijack
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2003.11.14 08:56:00 -
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Everyone that got killed at a jump in is just an idiot, cause its inpossible to catch somone at jump in if u use the rigth method. Just set your course to one system farder then your target system. Then since the last serverside patch it is impossible to target somone at jump in when he gots autopilot activated even if the laag lasts 40 seconds.
On the warp to stargate u can then deactivate your autopilat and do what ever u want in this system.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.14 08:59:00 -
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We camp jump-ins but we go up against experienced CA pilots - they do it, we do it, and everyone accepts the risks when they approach a system with an orange glow on the map.
SA/CA forces don't WANT to camp jump-ins, to be honest, but it's a tactic enforced by the immunity timer and neither side will cease using it until it's fixed.
The problem with Tank camping jump-ins is the fact he does it right next door to a n00b 1.0 system.
I have absolutely no respect for Tank, as a player, and would rather we had 50 n00b carebears in the game than one chicken-**** Tank CEO.
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