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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 19:47:38
Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 04:37:26
Today, while being hunted by CFS defenders, Macross Combat Corp was able to pod Brute Bear and pod kill Slaughter Bear, two members of a known indy hunting corp. Macross suffered no losses and ******* for pond scum like the Scare Bear Corporation.
Although Scare Bear typically pilot frigates, it was an extreme pleeasure to watch them squirm under the pressure.
On a side note, Darkstar78 is here by proclaimed an enemy of Macross Combat Coporation for exploiting and petty game play. Corporations are hereby warned, Darkstar78 is permanently placed on the Macross KOS list, as well as his former corp mates from Texas Syndicate.
edits: for the sake of concerned CFS members, I will removed the in negotiations portion of my statement, even though the statement is true in all facets of light. Additional edit, correction to Salughter Bears name.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:38:00 -
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Macross Combat Corporation are pirates themselves.
Today they (Dark Goddess) destroyed an Indie and podded its pilot (Ayane brutor) belonging to us.
Unless CFS is now taking the side of pirates I judge it highly unlikely MCC has a snowflakes hope in hell of operating in CFS space.
Either way MCC and its members are now KOS to BBBB and will remain so until retribution is achieved or compensation paid.
Appropriate CONCORD verification of the ship destruction and podding are available.
Be assured i will take every step possible to ensure that MCC and its pirating activities are made clear to CFS and any other regional parties by every means at my disposal.
Have a nice day.
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 03:55:22
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Macross Combat Corporation are pirates themselves.
Balderdash, we are not a pirate corp, we are a Combat Corporation. Deal with it. If want to do something about it, then come and try to kill us.
If the CFS choses not to utilize our services, that is their choice, we are not based in CFS space and go look for other clients.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:54:00 -
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So what do you call the podding of an indie pilot and the destruction of an unarmed indie by your own blackbird pilot then?
Overzealous handshake?
You support pirates and act as pirates - you are pirates.
Simple stuff really.
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:56:00 -
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The difference is, we act on contract as well as self interest. Pirates act purely on self interest. I am sorry though that your pilot lost his clone. He may have to buy a new one.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:58:00 -
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If the CFS choses not to utilize our services, that is their choice, we are not based in CFS space and go look for other clients.
Trust me - the CFS wouldnt touch you guys with a bargepole after this... you might want to just go run to the Forsaken boys now and save us all a lot of bother.
Macross Combat Corporation = Pirates.
(They'll be reading it with their cornflakes by morning time)
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:02:00 -
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The difference is, we act on contract as well as self interest. Pirates act purely on self interest. I am sorry though that your pilot lost his clone. He may have to buy a new one.
She.
And "too late, too little".
You may want to withdraw the "proud to announce" bit now btw.. saves a humiliating climbdown later.
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:04:00 -
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Just out of curiuosity, what do you want for 'compensation'? I think removing pond scum from CFS at no charge was very nice of us, accidents happen.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:05:00 -
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Why would I remove proud to annouce, I am not ashamed of MACC. I don't care if you like us, or what you think of us, or even what you want to label us as. I promise you, my life won't change one way or another.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:10:00 -
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It did just change sunshine...
but a settlement of 100 million isk will suffice to compensate for cargo and extras.
We will let you off the ship cost as its negligeable.
(And, yes, im serious.)
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:12:00 -
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A snow flake has better chance in hell than you ever seeing anything like that coming out of us. Nice try though.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Spawn El'Marr
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:14:00 -
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The difference is, we act on contract as well as self interest. Pirates act purely on self interest. I am sorry though that your pilot lost his clone. He may have to buy a new one.
I think removing pond scum from CFS at no charge was very nice of us, accidents happen.
So, could you try to decide, are your members doing piracy or accidents happen?
You don't podkill a Indy by accident...
So if for example Space Invader or BioMass gets a contract to kill a few other Pirates they would not be pirates anymore, but a respectable corporation with a contract?
Mmmpffhhhhh!!! You are so full of s*it ...
You cant try to be a respectable corp hunting pirates and at the same time have members who do their own business killing innocent travellers.
Well, Macross are on Absolut Profit's KOS now ...
Founder and Joint CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:15:00 -
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A snow flake has better chance in hell than you ever seeing anything like that coming out of us. Nice try though.
Yeah I know...i didn't think you could raise that sort of cash either.
Always worth checking though.
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:20:00 -
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Raising the cash is hardly the issue. That kind of money is more than doable, but will not just be handed over. Whoever Absolut are, your choice. We killed Scare Bear members, who are confirmed indy killers. As for being legitimate or not, I really could careless about which one you see us as.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Spawn El'Marr
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:22:00 -
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I guess "Macross Combat Corporation" also are confirmed Indy Killers after shooting down that BBBB indy then ... 
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:37:00 -
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I guess "Macross Combat Corporation" also are confirmed Indy Killers after shooting down that BBBB indy then ...
I am sure it is true an indy died, inconsequential.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 04:46:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 19:49:49
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So let me get this straight:
You claim to have killed another "indie killer" and because of that you "claimed" to be in talks with CFS to hunt other "indie killers" and at the same time you yourselves are "indie killers"?
I'm not sure about pirates but im damn sure you aren't rocket scientists.
CFS have already stated this elsewhere and that you were escortedout of CFS space.
So... all this "proud to announce... negotiations with CFS" is children's fairy tales.
Whilst it may take a while to sink in wto your fantasy life your world just did change today. CFS space will be closed to you as I rather doubt Morkt will let CFS have a moments peace without a clear unequivocable statement that your entire corp is not welcome.
Knowing Morkt I imagine it wont just be the CFS...
Ironic that Macross class themselves as "Friends of MASS"... or is that another fairy tale story also?
I did indeed kill Slaughter Bear of Scare Bear Corp, and podded Brute Bear. Princess killed two others a few jumps away. To sooth your conscience, I will remove the fact that we are talking to CFS, negotiations does not mean that we will be contracted.
Still trying to figure out where rocket science came into the convo.
CFS space is not, has never been, or will ever be closed to MACC, as hostile as it may or may not become.
MACC was indeed asked to leave CFS space for the duration of 24 hours while our proposals were taken into consideration by the powers that be.
Morkt can go to hell and join his fallen comrade for all I care, and I guess you can too if you really want to.
MACC has friends in various different regions of space. We do not involve our friends in our differences.
edit: Correction to Slaughter Bears name.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:07:00 -
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"Today, while being hunted by CFS defenders, Macross Combat Corp was able to pod Brute Bear and pod kill Sacrifice Bear, two members of a known indy hunting corp."
Why were you being hunted by CFS? Was it because Dark Godess destroyed some CFS indy's as well?
Calladen 
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:13:00 -
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"Today, while being hunted by CFS defenders, Macross Combat Corp was able to pod Brute Bear and pod kill Sacrifice Bear, two members of a known indy hunting corp."
Why were you being hunted by CFS? Was it because Dark Godess destroyed some CFS indy's as well?
Calladen
It is my understanding that there were some misunderstandings in regards to DG.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:24:00 -
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Solo,
If some ships were attacked by your member and destroyed I would hope you'd look at restitution for the accidents. I believe Macross may have discussed this with another CFS represenative (from what I've read here) but clearly BBBB has a claim as well. While no one can confirm what the BBBB ship had as cargo its clear they were innocent and were accidently attacked. As accidents do happen its understandable but its also honorable to pay restitution.
I'm not aware of any formal relationship between CFS and Macross at this time. Like all honest corps if Macross wasn't a pirate corp (they were never known as one up to this point) they would've been free to access CFS space just as everyone else was. If Macross then had a member commit piracy (Dark Goddess incidents) earlier and the member was ejected from your corp its a start. The CFS charter is very clear that regardless of a corporations status with us (even a member corp) if someone pirates they're KOS here.
I hope you and Morkt can come to terms with this event and reach an amicable solution. It would really help the perception CFS has of Macross.
Thank you,
Calladen Nimitz 
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 05:41:58
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Solo,
If some ships were attacked by your member and destroyed I would hope you'd look at restitution for the accidents. I believe Macross may have discussed this with another CFS represenative (from what I've read here) but clearly BBBB has a claim as well. While no one can confirm what the BBBB ship had as cargo its clear they were innocent and were accidently attacked. As accidents do happen its understandable but its also honorable to pay restitution.
I'm not aware of any formal relationship between CFS and Macross at this time. Like all honest corps if Macross wasn't a pirate corp (they were never known as one up to this point) they would've been free to access CFS space just as everyone else was. If Macross then had a member commit piracy (Dark Goddess incidents) earlier and the member was ejected from your corp its a start. The CFS charter is very clear that regardless of a corporations status with us (even a member corp) if someone pirates they're KOS here.
I hope you and Morkt can come to terms with this event and reach an amicable solution. It would really help the perception CFS has of Macross.
Thank you,
Calladen Nimitz
Macross has/had no formal agreement with CFS nor are we a member of the alliance. I would be willing to pay for the cost of clone activation, ship loss, and a 1 million isk bounty, no futher attempts to compensate will be made. They can only be extracted, and I think that may be a chore BBBB is not prepared to take on.
There are not nor will be considerations in removing Dark Goddess from MACC as she is a valuable asset and friend. Considerations will be taken to avoid futher confrontations.
I have many associations in CFS, and know that there are several more that can be made, but any attempts to impede my non-violent movement in any space will be taken as hostile, and will result in such consequences that MACC deems necessary.
I like you Calladen, I and I look forward to future communications.
edit: By the way, if you need someone killed, we are accepting contracts.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
M Hoshi
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: SOL0 on 14/11/2003 04:37:26
Today, while being hunted by CFS defenders, Macross Combat Corp was able to pod Brute Bear and pod kill Sacrifice Bear, two members of a known indy hunting corp. Macross suffered no losses and ******* for pond scum like the Scare Bear Corporation.
And you sir and nothing but an outright coward. Killing frigates is nothing to brag about, or do you do it to counter-act downsizing in another department?
I spoke/watched 4-5 guys of the Bear corp last night, and they we're nothing but pleasent fellows, they struck me as nothing more than a bunch of guys having fun in frigates.
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"We can smell the sea"
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:40:00 -
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Impede my nonviolent movements????
I can't believe you can say that, and at the same time admit you guys are popping innocent indies. Your not a Combat corp, your a freaking JOKE. This entire post has done nothing more then make yourself look like a muppet. WTF you think alt scouts fly around in bestowers?
In summary..
Your corp is a joke.
You are a muppet.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Spawn El'Marr
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Posted - 2003.11.14 14:13:00 -
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At least have the guts to admit that you are pirates and don't try to hide behind some "We are a combat corp".
Killing ONLY by contract may be one thing, acting as assasins, contract killers.
But destroying innocent indys who you don't have a contract on is pure Piracy and nothing else. And trying to brag about killing other Indy Pirates does NOT make you a less pirate.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.14 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 14/11/2003 14:37:36
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I would be willing to pay for the cost of clone activation, ship loss, and a 1 million isk bounty, no futher attempts to compensate will be made.
Clone 1 million ISK
Ship hull: 750,000, fittings 13 million (Expanders, abs and shield looted by Dark Goddess)
1 million compensation
Total: 15,750,000 ISK
(Cargo reperations we will make other arrangmeents for.)
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I have many associations in CFS, and know that there are several more that can be made, but any attempts to impede my non-violent movement in any space will be taken as hostile, and will result in such consequences that MACC deems necessary.
lol - I imagine any CFS "associations" you did actually have are dissapearing fast. Btw there are half a dozen hostile acts on their way down to your corp right now.
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Marsalla
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Posted - 2003.11.14 15:30:00 -
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Macross has/had no formal agreement with CFS nor are we a member of the alliance. I would be willing to pay for the cost of clone activation, ship loss, and a 1 million isk bounty, no futher attempts to compensate will be made. They can only be extracted, and I think that may be a chore BBBB is not prepared to take on.
There are not nor will be considerations in removing Dark Goddess from MACC as she is a valuable asset and friend. Considerations will be taken to avoid futher confrontations.
I have many associations in CFS, and know that there are several more that can be made, but any attempts to impede my non-violent movement in any space will be taken as hostile, and will result in such consequences that MACC deems necessary.
I like you Calladen, I and I look forward to future communications.
edit: By the way, if you need someone killed, we are accepting contracts.
Well youre KOS, any activities in CFS Space will be problematic at best for you
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 18:44:00 -
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At least have the guts to admit that you are pirates and don't try to hide behind some "We are a combat corp".
Killing ONLY by contract may be one thing, acting as assasins, contract killers.
But destroying innocent indys who you don't have a contract on is pure Piracy and nothing else. And trying to brag about killing other Indy Pirates does NOT make you a less pirate.
Why would I admit to being something that isn't true.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.11.14 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylon Syi on 14/11/2003 19:16:03
I was policing with the navy at the time Macross what fighting the Bears. Dark Goddess was in a Black Bird guarding a gate and I was in a vigil running recon and irritation runs on that gate to see what they were all about.
I am not CFS but I defend with CFS the Khanid and JK-FIX region when I am able. Macross was asked to leave and they did. The bears were asked to leave and they did. Macross was about 1 minute from being caught and podded ( especially Solo ) via 2 CFS members when the the order to let them leave was given.
CFS doesn't mind non-CFS members helping to protect the area. However, if your a PKer of freindlies then your nothing but a KOS candidate to them. When a valid report of your wrong doings is given to them... garanteed you will be KOS. If you want to do CFS and yourself a favor... clean the reputation up with actions and not words.
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.14 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylon Syi on 14/11/2003 19:16:03
I was policing with the navy at the time Macross what fighting the Bears. Dark Goddess was in a Black Bird guarding a gate and I was in a vigil running recon and irritation runs on that gate to see what they were all about.
I am not CFS but I defend with CFS the Khanid and JK-FIX region when I am able. Macross was asked to leave and they did. The bears were asked to leave and they did. Macross was about 1 minute from being caught and podded ( especially Solo ) via 2 CFS members when the the order to let them leave was given.
CFS doesn't mind non-CFS members helping to protect the area. However, if your a PKer of freindlies then your nothing but a KOS candidate to them. When a valid report of your wrong doings is given to them... garanteed you will be KOS. If you want to do CFS and yourself a favor... clean the reputation up with actions and not words.
Kaylon Syi,
You were no where near catching me. 4 other people had been chasing me all over the place and I escaped them all without any problems. We did honor the request to leave CFS space though. The Bears really had little reason to stay, I killed Slaughter Bear, and sent Brute Bear packing home in a pod. Princess killed two others and sent their clones home too.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.11.15 04:28:00 -
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I confirm and attest to BBBB's story.
Macross are indeed pirates, our corporations industrial pilot was attacked by Dark Goddess's BB. His indi, with valuable mods, his clone with implants, and his cargohold full of bistot was lost.
For this unforgivable act of piracy, your coporation has been placed under KOS until you repay our pilot and corporation for damages.
50 million isk.
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