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Alan Bell
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:31:00 -
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hello, im gettin a raven for PvP adn next patch, but this is my first ship with over 3 med slots(amarr and gallente only experience before) i plan on doin PvP, but i dont kno a very good load out wiht EW. I have basically all skills, i can use all guns of any siz also. i was thinkin soemthin around this:
High slots:
6X seige launchers
2X Proj weapons
Med slots:
1X shield booster (large or Xlarge, donno wich)
1X MWD (possibly during travel)
4-5 Multi spec ecm things (i got 4 initiated alrdy)
Low slots:
5X power cap relays
help is appreciated
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Nervar
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Posted - 2003.11.14 03:47:00 -
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First have you tryed runing 5 multispecs yet, Tey drain allot off cap. Second no point inn having all that ew if your enemy runs away from you.
Get a warp scrambler inn there
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:31:00 -
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Its better to use one specialize of each type then one multi, that gives -16 in all and saves alot of cap. Only thing is you give up one extra med slot.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 14/11/2003 11:56:10
You CAN do ecm with a raven. But really, it's not it's purpose. If you want to do ecm work, get a scorp. Raven is a dmg dealer. Use those 6 med slots to boost the ravens big shields. Hardeners, shield boosters, and amps are a beautiful thing. And since u will be using no cap on weapons to speak of, you can run em forever. 
And if you get jammed? Open up a can of FOF on em.
Just my 2c
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Toulak on 14/11/2003 12:33:01
If you can equip 6 siege launchers without needing a CPU or two, I'd be surprised.
I need 1 CPU and I have electronics 4.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 14/11/2003 12:47:13
I would recommend the scorp over the Raven anyday.
The only advantage I really found with the Raven was the natural rate of fire bonuses.
Siege launchers use too much CPU to make them useful.
If you're going for a Raven, try 3 turrets, and 5 heavy launchers. (heavy arbs are the best)
Heavys fit 6 cruise in an arb, and 5 in anything lower.
Also make sure you carry FOF in case you get target jammed.
Mid slot wise is a tricky one. There aren't enough slots to go ecm and defensive. A shield booster is always a must, and a sensor booster is pretty much mandatory.
I would recommend you get a Blackbird and practice with that before taking out your shiny new Raven. It's got the same amount of mid slots, and you can fit 3 heavy launchers with cruise or torps on it, and deal serious damage.
Go hunt some dirty player pirates until you're confident with it. Once you've mastered ew, then kit out your Raven.
I'd try the scorp though, whack 2 turrets and 4 launchers on it, fill it up with ew and go kick some ass 
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.11.14 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 14/11/2003 12:47:13
I would recommend the scorp over the Raven anyday.
The only advantage I really found with the Raven was the natural rate of fire bonuses.
Siege launchers use too much CPU to make them useful.
If you're going for a Raven, try 3 turrets, and 5 heavy launchers. (heavy arbs are the best)
Heavys fit 6 cruise in an arb, and 5 in anything lower.
Also make sure you carry FOF in case you get target jammed.
Mid slot wise is a tricky one. There aren't enough slots to go ecm and defensive. A shield booster is always a must, and a sensor booster is pretty much mandatory.
I would recommend you get a Blackbird and practice with that before taking out your shiny new Raven. It's got the same amount of mid slots, and you can fit 3 heavy launchers with cruise or torps on it, and deal serious damage.
Go hunt some dirty player pirates until you're confident with it. Once you've mastered ew, then kit out your Raven.
I'd try the scorp though, whack 2 turrets and 4 launchers on it, fill it up with ew and go kick some ass
Note - EW is getting badly nerfed b4 u go sell ure raven and buy a scorp...
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Alan Bell
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:45:00 -
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Its better to use one specialize of each type then one multi, that gives -16 in all and saves alot of cap. Only thing is you give up one extra med slot.
dont race specific give 2 all adn 4 extra to one? so thast um 2X4=8+4=12 not 16......
i think ill stick to multi specs...im not usin much nrg.....plus im a big tiem laser user in my armageddeon, so i alrdy got good cap recharge
btw..i said after the patch
6X seige launchers (thermal/kenetic torps and FoF cruise
2X Proj. weapon (not sure whihc..)
4X initiated multi spec
1X large/Xlarge booster
1X med slot cap recharge or shield amplifier
5X cap power relay 1`s
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 14/11/2003 22:56:47
"dont race specific give 2 all adn 4 extra to one? so thast um 2X4=8+4=12 not 16......"
No, you are forgetting there's also one multi there; the race-specific ECM generates 6 point strong signal, plus 2 points for other signal types. So with additional multispectral module it's: 6 + (3*2) + 4 = 16
A setup like this takes 5 slots though, and it's easy to counter so isn't really a good idea, i think... ^^;;
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Iban Cortez
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Posted - 2003.11.20 19:38:00 -
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personally ask Greenhornet... i was in my Tempest and i was at the best PVP setup i could get... and he jammed me and ass****** me:( good thing he was using MWD and i had fof cruise missles otherwise he would have killed me rather fast.use sum dampeners and sensor boosters to jam target and seppen up lock distance and time |
Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:53:00 -
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You can also use 3x multispectral and one specialized (gravimetric) that gives you -14 to all sensors and -16 to caldari race.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.11.21 07:50:00 -
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If you got -16, you're not going to jam another scorp or raven (or battleships mounting ECCM or backup sensors).
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.11.21 08:02:00 -
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-16 jams anything not using ECCM.
It's not a good idea though.
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Ordo Abchao
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:45:00 -
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-16 jams anything not using ECCM.
It's not a good idea though.
If you want to jam caldari you need at least -18.
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Joe
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Posted - 2003.11.22 14:53:00 -
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lol @ you all.
Raven has the same mid slots as a blackbird 'EW' ship, why is a Raven any different. it even has more cpu, powergrid.
try 2x warp scramblers (the 20k type) and 2x Tracking disrupters (best are Balmer and DDO)
These should allow u to nullify your opponants large tuurets, and stop him from fleeing as your 6x Hvy launchers destroy him.
some peoples use warpcore stabilisers (rude) so remember to use 2 scramblers. a way to be ruder of course, is to take 2x warp scramblers, and 2x warpcore stabilisers yourself.
Don't forget your 6x ogres.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.11.22 15:12:00 -
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lol @ you all.
Raven has the same mid slots as a blackbird 'EW' ship, why is a Raven any different.
The Blackbird isn't made for jamming BATTLESHIPS.
If you use one of each race specific jammer, you'll get them all down to -12, enough to jam any frigate or cruiser.
However, if you need to jam all battleships, add a multispectral jammer, which drains a LOT of cap.
Besides, that'll only jam for -16 total.
Also, you may want a warp scrambler. A shieldbooster? MWD, maybe? Stasis web? Sensor booster? ECCM?
The list goes on.
6 medslots isn't enough for battleship EW IMHO.
You NEED 4 slots for the EW (3 is enough when using race-specific jammers, but I'd recommend using 4 or even 5 to counter pilots smart enough to use ECCM).
Then, you need 1 for the warp scrambler. You suggest two, which leaves you with no medium slots.
So:
- You're easy to jam unless you use all your lowslots for ECCM
- No defense (hardeners, shield booster)
- No easy way of escape (MWD)
- No way of keeping enemies with ABs/MWD where you want them (Stasis web)
Again, the list goes on.
Since I'm getting quite happy with my setup (Scorpion), I won't give it out. Of course, I can't use all of the modules I mentioned, though. 
If this post is nonsense, just ignore it. I'm tired.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.22 17:49:00 -
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try 2x warp scramblers (the 20k type) and 2x Tracking disrupters (best are Balmer and DDO)
These should allow u to nullify your opponants large tuurets, and stop him from fleeing as your 6x Hvy launchers destroy him.
Do you even pilot a raven?!?!
You'd push him outa damn range of the warp jammers for a start..
Ive found tracking distruptors to be total crap, try sensor dampners cause he sure as hell aint ever gonna get back into range to lock you while your knocking him away.
The missiles are your warp jammers, as long as u can keep a constant stream your laughing, he'll never be able to align warp..
Oh and dont look at the raven as an EW vessel, look at it as tho its a tank.
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Joe
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Posted - 2003.11.24 07:48:00 -
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Toulak, really dude, push them away? wow. magic? Missles are not good warp scramblers, but yeah, they slow your escape
ummm.... Raven as a tank? not enough med slots for tanking, sorry
jarjar....
I never sead use 4x ecm + 2x warp scrambler, thats silly, I listed 4 modules, leaving 2 for shield booster, mwd, asteriod scanner or what ever else u have on your ship normally.
personally, I believe there is only one concern when in combat, will they flee, or can you. ecm is a novelty.
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kolobos
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Posted - 2003.11.24 11:27:00 -
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the raven can both have 6 seige launchers on and have a tank set up. in med what you need are an xl-shield booster, em and thermal hardeners a shield boost amplifer, sensor booster and dampener. for high, you dont mount any turrets at all, this frees up a lot of cpu/pwrgrid.instead use something like cap neturalizers, or smartbombs to take out the drones, low you definitly need the cap relays to keep the shields going. and if you want to go for major defence, you could change the dampener for a rare armour repairer, cause the armour on that ***** of a ship will take as much as a beating as the shields will.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.24 12:54:00 -
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"Toulak, really dude, push them away? wow. magic?"
... No, EVE physics; the missile explosions knock your opponent back, if it's the constant stream they will send the heavy vessel flying faster than a battleship with AFB (i think i was pushing friend's ship away at ~400 m/sec, and that's just with 4 launchers)
"ummm.... Raven as a tank? not enough med slots for tanking, sorry"
pffft. He said tank, not secure cargo container... ;s
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:32:00 -
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ummm.... Raven as a tank? not enough med slots for tanking, sorry
Hahahahahahaha
Try it dude -
2x EM wards
1x Thermal
1x Xlarge shield booster
1x Shield amplifier
1x F90 sensor booster
Ive been in 2 vs 1 battleships skirmishs and won, theyve been unable to get past my shields. Hell ive tanked a scorp, caracal, and blackbird launching torps / cruise missiles constantly and my shields never went below 50% and my cap never dropped below 50% either, and that was a constant bombardment for a good 6, 7 mins if not more, before my warp alignment kicked in and I warped out, ask Azz Meakstone from Merc cruisers, or Carthago, they'll soon tell u.
Ive been the bait for JIP campers, to distract em then after a minute the rest of my corp warps in and suprises em, works most of the time. Not lost my ship once to this..
4x cap relays keeps your cap going all day long. As long as your stupid and dont waste cap you've won.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:15:00 -
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Think you will find that the raven is one of the best tanks in game. Although the key to it aint to use mid slots, although they just add to the bonus. For example my sheilds are around 7000. Cant think of many bs's that will have stats like that. Then since you use bugger all cap on fireing launcher most if not all your cap can be used on mid slots to keep your sheilds at 7000. And dont use XL sheild boosters.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:27:00 -
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And dont use XL sheild boosters.
Why?
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Dawson
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Posted - 2003.11.24 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dawson on 24/11/2003 17:06:31
Compare them with a medium c5-L *edit* think I said to much. Although you should be able to work it out with checking the specs of things.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.24 18:15:00 -
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With a shield amp the Xlarge owns..
Ive tried a medium C5L and it doesnt replenish fast enough. Plus I have the cap to keep an xlarge running a hell of a long time.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2003.11.25 01:57:00 -
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Ok. Although I think you should take another look and then think for a while. you can also get the c5's larger counter parts if you must. but there again, autorepeat, x2.
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