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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:09:00 -
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I'm not here to start an argument about pirating or alliances policies or anything like that......that said i was wondering if anyone knows whom i need to contact to get a license/permit/pass whatever to get into curse/gw regions for a short period of time????
Are these things available....and will they be honored???? I'm willing to pay because CA does control the area at the time so if they demand a fee then i'm willing to pay.....but i want to be able to believe that they will be honored as well.
what would happen to a member of the alliance if they attacked me while in the region on a license????
I don't check the forums often so if someone could contact me by eve-mail or chat in game that would be awesome.....if not i'll try to get back on the forums later on.....ty 
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.14 05:51:00 -
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These issues are being brought up at the next meeting. For now, I'm afraid that there's nothing we can offer you along the lines of hunting passes.
We'll keep everyone updated on the issue, though.
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Panzermensch
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:03:00 -
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you don't need any passes for your daily business in curse.
just go there and be quick if needed...
panzermensch
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semp
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: semp on 14/11/2003 11:09:34
We hunt CA, no passes needed.
CA cant and never will be able to keep Curse safe for themself, never mind be in a position to sell passes.
Fighting to keep Curse Free and Safe
Semp
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wacko
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:08:00 -
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This is the kind of action that I have been talking about in the past and other threads... We have players begging and asking and hoping that "groups" in there so called claim, allow them to have passage... What and how are we suppose to fucntion as producing part of the econ when we are worring about, if we are even going to be able to get passage to areas that should be and open or areas that should contribute to the even econ.
Instead that are taking away from it, they are monopolizing it. Take advatage of undermanned, underfunded corps... This is insane, this type of action would not be tolerated in a free market world and would now allow for these type of things to happen and this is why I can again for corps to ban together and create some sort of Senate that will allow for these issues and others to be sorted out.
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DaSaint
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:13:00 -
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[cut] Instead that are taking away from it, they are monopolizing it. Take advatage of undermanned, underfunded corps... This is insane, this type of action would not be tolerated in a free market world and would now allow for these type of things to happen and this is why I can again for corps to ban together and create some sort of Senate that will allow for these issues and others to be sorted out.
LOOOL, cmon,get outta your igloo, man. Don't you know big corps and lobbies rule the world's economy in RL? Not that I'm happy about it, but that's the way it is. Make do.
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:42:00 -
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Those lowlifes that succumb to the oppression of CA by getting passes will be shot by other alliances in the GW region. How about joining the fight instead of bending over and taking it in the
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wacko
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Posted - 2003.11.14 11:44:00 -
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I will not disagree that corps are a large part of the world econ and even if they do control the world econ they do not go un-checked. Here in the US we are contanstly coming down on corps and companies for there actions. I mean just because someone has a product that sells does not mean that its doing wrong....
But sadly that is not the case here... people are not allow to sell there products because these large corps will just undercut them. Even in the US we may cut prices to be competing with competition... BUt i ask you to name company that is still around that is willing to cut prices below cost... or telling me of a company that has not bee locked up in court cases or legal sctions for monopolizing there are of the market.... Staples not included...
I think you will find it hard to find some and I think that if you did your homework and looked into any companies you did name... you would see that its the case they are watched; they are locked up in legal battles.
You may be right in that corps control the economy... but thats true in any case and we don't have to be ruthless and careless in how we allow these corps rule our econ.
So i ask again, I hope that players will see this as an issue and I know they will and they take some sorta of action on it.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:22:00 -
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As far as the Eve- rela world comparison goes it might be better to compare Eve with the real world a few hundreds of years ago as far as power distribution is concerned. Fact is that those with any form of power to their name get to set the rules. Wether this power is economic, militairy, social or other does not matter much.
Empire space is largely comparable to a UN controlled, nearly total free-market-economy society.
0.0 space is comparable to nothing really. It lacks any political structure and is essentially in anarchy. Since people and nature detest a vacuum, and since it is economically and socially rewarding, groups of people move in to establish a social and political structure in this area. Since a considerable force is required to do so, this is only done my alliances.
A totally other thing is the moral attitude of these alliances. Since Eve's structure rewards one particular (realpolitik) view of the world more then others, the alliances tend to reserve the potential wealth in the claimed space for themselves. The only way to change this is by:
a) appealing to their social consience.
b) kicking them out
c) agreeing to a mutually beneficial solution.
Since A seems to be hampered by your pride and zeal, and B is only possible for an even mightier alliance (which still brings you nowhere), C is the option for the small-medium corps and individuals. JUST MAKE A FRIGGIN DEAL, that is a requirement for what you want to do as a corp anyway isn't it ?
Since you now seem to have chosen path B, by trying to assemble a political force that might change things (your economic senate), option C might not be in store anymore...
Just be real, Eve is not a democracy, and it never will be untill one democratic alliance is able to control all of eve space effectively. (so... never)
again, i have no official capacity, so i really have no business saying this with my corp tag attached.
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Posted - 2003.11.14 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/11/2003 12:24:31
P.S.
wacko, shall we move back to your economic senate tread once more ? Read the first line of the original poster and you should know that we are not welcome in this thread m8
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.14 16:04:00 -
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Whee boy, after I gave such a nasty response, I can see why the flaming persisted. |:
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.14 19:50:00 -
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Like CA is the only ones who do this. How about some love for Fountain, NVA, Stain?
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