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Lucas Raholan Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 162	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:20:49 - [1] - Quote To all pilots and interested parties, Events of the last week have been fast moving and uncompromising, following from the recovery and subsequent investigation into what little remains of the late Dr Hilen Tukoss. After the expeditionary group lead by Makoto Priano recovered this sample from an unidentified wormhole containing a significant Drifter presence, CONCORD saw fit to make unprecedented demands and threats befitting that of the Angel Cartel in an attempt to relieve it from scientists and advocators of knowledge under the auspices of establishing what we had already established under their supervision I find these heavy-handed and ****-eyed actions deplorable. They cry of an organisation that sees itself not as a proponent of peace, but one of tyrannical power. One would be forgiven for wondering if Tibus Heth found a new occupation as the Director of CONCORD. Their actions certainly seem to suggest it, and until such a time as they show otherwise, I will continue to view them as nothing more than a well-funded group of thugs and extortionists, whose attempts to make a singular capsuleer a pariah see fit to threaten seemingly those who beyond the initial study into the cortex have had no input on the following actions. Now, some of you even suggested that I that held little regard for my fellow pilotsGÇÖ situation and was merely following my own pride with little regard. I must say that you are forming your own rather uninformed view based on facts you do not possess. Whilst this is perhaps partially the case, I do indeed maintain concern about my fellow colleagues and feel somewhat responsible for their current situations. Needless to say I am not deaf, and despite my hopes, his Grand Inquisitor Ohrud Omel has seen it upon himself to order me on behalf of her Holy EmpressGÇÖs Imperial government to comply with the DED. I find this peculiar given their own actions regarding the distribution of station shield tech in the last few weeks in violation of CONCORDGÇÖs laws and edicts. However, unlike CONCORD, the Empire is actually capable of reason and civility, something dear Odo Korachi clearly never learnt as a child. Subject to Lord OmelGÇÖs request, I have grudgingly transferred TukossGÇÖs remains to the DED. This may disappoint many out there, as it certainly does myself, but there was little option as my position was becoming increasingly untenable. I must thank all of those offering support ranging from sanctuary to supplies to open warfare on behalf of myself and my fellow persecuted colleagues; your offers will not be forgotten by myself or my colleagues. To those whoGÇÖd rather toe the line of a such a disreputable organisation rather than support your fellow empyreans in their persecution, if you should be in a position where you require help, do not be surprised when you are abandoned to your fate by those who see CONCORD and the DED for what they truly are, nothing better than pirates of the worst kind. You would find more honour amongst the Blood Raiders than within the halls of the DED. As to Aldrith Shutaq and his most delightful comments posted earlier, I have never read more ill-informed, vile drivel come out of PIE in all my years as a capsuleer. The mere thought people actually hold you in esteem shocks and near sickens me. If that is the kind of people PIE is happy to have in leadership, IGÇÖm not surprised you are currently losing in the warzone; you are clearly more concerned with writing posts so frothingly mad that Dame Death looks like a being of supreme intelligence. I shall expect a full in person apology from not just you, but PIEGÇÖs CEO for such detestable actions. With Regards Lucas Raholan Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 7214	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:21:09 - [2] - Quote Pilots, I would like to say that I support Lord RaholanGÇÖs decision, as it remains true to his convictions, and also hopefully resolves this unprecedented crisis. It is important to recognize that he obeys an authority he recognizes, rather than obeying an authority whose legitimacy he questions, and whose actions have alienated him. That this action was forced by the hegemonic tactics of the DED remains non-ideal. It remains my firm belief that CONCORD and the DED would best be served in the longer term by exploring the value of social capital in ensuring compliance and dedication on the part of independent capsuleers. WhatGÇÖs more, it remains my belief that CONCORDGÇÖs efficacy will be greatly harmed by continued belligerence and authoritarian methods, eroding what little social capital the organization has remaining, alienating those who are best positioned to assist it in confronting the challenges facing New Eden. This trend runs counter to CONCORDGÇÖs stated mandate of ensuring cluster security. Further, I must say that this episode has demonstrated to me who IKAME should regard as stalwart friends, and who IKAME must regard as fair-weather friends. WhatGÇÖs more, the heated words on the forum have done none of us any service. I would hope for more empathy and diplomacy in the discussion that followed, and have found the logic of some lacking when they have declared their support for the DED. At this point, Raholan has ultimately complied with the DEDGÇÖs demands. I await the decision of Korachi. In service, Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Maxemillian Caldera Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 11	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:24:21 - [3] - Quote What do I do with all these High-Tech Small Arms now?!
Frenjo Borkstar Borkstar Laboratories 92	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:27:08 - [4] - Quote Like i've said all along, I stand by the decisions of Raholan and Priano as I wouldn't be much of a friend if I didn't. It was their choice to make, and they made it. I've realised that nothing will be gained by fighting the system, but we have to work with the system to help them improve in their own way. Running wasn't the answer, and this whole ordeal has made me realise that. We all await Korachi anxiously. Dr. Frenjo Borkstar, Project Lead for Arek'Jaalan's Project Salus.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1729	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:27:12 - [5] - Quote Thank you for complying, Lord Raholan. "Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away." -- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1084	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:30:17 - [6] - Quote It sounds like a storm in a kettle...
darkezero Special Unit 17 8	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:32:17 - [7] - Quote Saddened to hear this, truly. I hope CONCORD will be transparent with the actions taken upon the sliver, they're not transparent with much else.
Liam Antolliere Liberty Vanguard 616	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:32:34 - [8] - Quote Lord Raholan, It is pleasing to see that you have submitted yourself to proper authority, if not the authority of CONCORD itself. That you have chosen such submission while pointedly reinforcing the principle of your opposition speaks highly of your conviction and of your character. While I remain displeased with CONCORD for their choice of methodology in this situation, I can at least find some measure of appreciation for your compliance without backpedaling. Perhaps reason may yet win this day. "Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Jaret Victorian Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 168	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:35:00 - [9] - Quote Frenjo Borkstar wrote: Like i've said all along, I stand by the decisions of Raholan and Priano as I wouldn't be much of a friend if I didn't. It was their choice to make, and they made it. I've realised that nothing will be gained by fighting the system, but we have to work with the system to help them improve in their own way. Running wasn't the answer, and this whole ordeal has made me realise that. We all await Korachi anxiously. You, two-faced!.. Bah! I trust my colleagues, but... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 7217	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:36:19 - [10] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: It sounds like a storm in a kettle... Ms. Farel, bounties valued at approximately 135 billion ISK and possible asset seizure and future corporate penalties are perhaps on the not-small side of threats. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Gorion Wassenar Stimulus Rote Kapelle 117	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:36:44 - [11] - Quote You made a hard choice and I respect that. Lets see of that will be the right decision. Rote Kapelle - NOW IN SLIGHTLY MORE LAW ABIDING FLAVOR! "DRINK STARSI!" -¬-«GäóOwnership Group Chairman
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18793	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:41:21 - [12] - Quote While CONCORD's actions recently do indeed appear suspicious to many, we still lack vital information concerning why exactly they have been as persistent as they have been to obtain the sample. I am glad to see that this issue is (hopefully) coming to a close; information is the goal at all costs at this time, and splintering ourselves will do nothing but hinder our ability to prepare for whatever is yet to come. My only wish is that CONCORD would begin to act less like a superior entity to us all; progress would continue at a much faster pace if they were to branch out and include those who could certainly assist in efforts. Regardless of the cause of it, I am glad to see conflict coming to an end. -Uriel "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 924	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:41:39 - [13] - Quote Of course it was ill-informed, vile drivel. The point was to make you prove me wrong. I am happy you have done so, my lord, and I gladly bow my head for your forgiveness! My promised apology is posted in place of my happy mistake. You will have to discuss things directly with the admiralty if you wish for an apology from them; I am not entirely certain they are aware of what occurred just yet.
Max Singularity House Singularity 192	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:42:42 - [14] - Quote Lucas Raholan wrote: To all pilots and interested parties, (Concord) cry of an organisation that sees itself not as a proponent of peace, but one of tyrannical power. With Regards Lucas Raholan This is an outrage to all capsuleers. Are we all asleep? Are we all under a spell of some dark witch? For Concord to issue a 50 Billion Isk bounty on a Capsuleer merits a full investigation regarding due process! Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- ((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
H1de0 Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 17	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:52:46 - [15] - Quote A sense of great relief follows Raholan-san's decission as we all can leave politics aside and focus on science again. Let us just hope that the DED, should they dig up anything new with the sample, will make their research results public. Decrypting the Sleeper cache..
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 380	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:53:10 - [16] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Lucas Raholan wrote: To all pilots and interested parties, (Concord) cry of an organisation that sees itself not as a proponent of peace, but one of tyrannical power. With Regards Lucas Raholan This is an outrage to all capsuleers. Are we all asleep? Are we all under a spell of some dark witch? For Concord to issue a 50 Billion Isk bounty on a Capsuleer merits a full investigation regarding due process! CONCORD has clearly become corrupt and obsessed with their own iron grasp on the Empires' space. All capsuleers within the space claimed by the Great Empires should throw off the shackles of CONCORD's tyranny. Join the armadas of the new empires in sovereign space beyond CONCORD's grasp. And when the time comes, join the Imperium in showing all of New Eden the righteousness of the True Emperor, Max Singularity VI, First of His Name. Long may he reign!
Tiberious Thessalonia Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 2409	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:53:19 - [17] - Quote H1de0 wrote: A sense of great relief follows Raholan-san's decission as we all can leave politics aside and focus on science again. Let us just hope that the DED, should they dig up anything new with the sample, will make their research results public. Ahahahahahaaha
Max Singularity House Singularity 197	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:58:58 - [18] - Quote H1de0 wrote: Let us just hope that the DED.... Without serious Capsuleer oversight, I expect no hope from DED, nor from the 'Harbinger of Hope'. Just saying. DED's written response to me of, "Our relationship to the Drifters is Classified" does little to inspire 'hope' in these grave matters. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- ((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18793	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:14:45 - [19] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: H1de0 wrote: Let us just hope that the DED.... Without serious Capsuleer oversight, I expect no hope from DED, nor from the 'Harbinger of Hope'. Just saying. DED's written response to me of, "Our relationship to the Drifters is Classified" does little to inspire 'hope' in these grave matters. Frankly, I don't expect any willingly helpful contact from the Assembly. However, if that's the case, the best thing we can do as Empyreans is continue to pursue our own efforts; we certainly breached the Hives before CONCORD or any of the empires were able to. Who could possibly think that we won't be able to find more ourselves? The details of the Drifters need to be made known as soon as possible, regardless of whether or not those in power choose to aid in uncovering their aim, origin and ambition. -Uriel "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Vizage Capital Allied Industrial Distribution Evictus. 172	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:27:24 - [20] - Quote You've done the right thing Mr. Raholan. You've spared yourself, your crews, those you call friends and their crews a hardship not worth the prize, and you've done so with tact and poignant opposition. Truly noble. I wish everyone involved the best of luck and hope this dreadful nonsense comes to a close in quick fashion. Cooler heads prevailed, today you proved we can truly weigh the odds and account for whats most important. With utmost sincerity and well wishes -K. Amsel
Sahriah BloodStone Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum 140	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:30:32 - [21] - Quote I have to say, this saddens me greatly. While i respect the decision made and the reasons behind it, I don't believe it was the right one. We've now shown that coercion and manipulation through the threatening of innocents is a tolerable means of dealing with situations. CONCORD needs a drastic revision of policy. I hope the Empires take the P.P.C documents seriously and that they will pave the way for positive change. "Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
H1de0 Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 18	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:43:00 - [22] - Quote Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: H1de0 wrote: A sense of great relief follows Raholan-san's decission as we all can leave politics aside and focus on science again. Let us just hope that the DED, should they dig up anything new with the sample, will make their research results public. Ahahahahahaaha Always glad that my post, no matter naive or not, made somebody's day;). At Your service.. Decrypting the Sleeper cache..
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 5096	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:24:55 - [23] - Quote Sahriah BloodStone wrote: I have to say, this saddens me greatly. While i respect the decision made and the reasons behind it, I don't believe it was the right one. We've now shown that coercion and manipulation through the threatening of innocents is a tolerable means of dealing with situations. CONCORD needs a drastic revision of policy. I hope the Empires take the P.P.C documents seriously and that they will pave the way for positive change. You can't blame the man. Concord's threat was a serious embuggerance and irritation, but the Empire threatened to strip his title and holdings. Can you imagine what would have happened to his House under those circumstances? He was thinking of his people, not his pride, and that's never something for which a person should be castigated. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Anslo Scope Works 31873	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:36:50 - [24] - Quote Sahriah BloodStone wrote: I have to say, this saddens me greatly. While i respect the decision made and the reasons behind it, I don't believe it was the right one. We've now shown that coercion and manipulation through the threatening of innocents is a tolerable means of dealing with situations. CONCORD needs a drastic revision of policy. I hope the Empires take the P.P.C documents seriously and that they will pave the way for positive change. Yes because some brain matter is worth the suffering of capsuleers who had absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever. Naive outlook. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Sahriah BloodStone Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum 140	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:42:09 - [25] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: You can't blame the man. Concord's threat was a serious embuggerance and irritation, but the Empire threatened to strip his title and holdings. Can you imagine what would have happened to his House under those circumstances? He was thinking of his people, not his pride, and that's never something for which a person should be castigated. As I said, I respect the decision made and the reasons behind it, although I was not actually aware they had threatened to strip his title and holdings. I find it most alarming that CONCORD would go to these measures, and even more so that the Amarr support this by threatening such things, especially after releasing the shield tech. Rather hypocritical don't you think? CONCORD more concerned over burying a piece of brain (so we're told) than an Empire breaking treaties and releasing powerful technology. What a time we live in. "Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
Mynxee Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 141	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:49:40 - [26] - Quote Sir, I am not sure that would have been my choice but you have my respect for what was obviously a difficult and carefully weighed decision. At least with this approach you and your associates will be able to continue to pursue your work unfettered. It is a pity that CONCORD opted for such over-the-top strong-arm tactics. They've made it very tough to trust their motives and intent going forward. Any information they may release in future about the remains you turned over (presumably in its entirety except for what may have been destroyed by your examination and testing) will be suspect in my eyes. This travesty has been a topic of much debate within our Research Division. Many of us are concerned that the powers that be will simply sweep the matter under the rug and we will hear no more of the good Dr. Tukoss or the mysteries surrounding him. I find myself wondering what actions may be taken against those who refuse to let that happen. Lost in space, looking for sigs... Blog: Outlaw Insouciant
Tiberious Thessalonia Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 2414	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:52:25 - [27] - Quote We'll have to see if CONCORD does the honorable thing and reverses their heavy handed tactics and threats of negative security status and so forth. Personally I don't trust them a lick.
Scherezad Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 2002	Posted - 2015.06.29 01:15:00 - [28] - Quote It seems prudent to reply here. Lord Raholan, you have my unfailing esteem and support. There was no easy answer here. I think you have made a good decision. To yourself, to Makoto, to Celes; I'm always happy to work with you, and look forward to future investigations of this nature. Your work is beyond reproach. To everyone who has been following this parade; thank you for tolerating the noise and fanfare. Hopefully it has been entertaining if not informative. To Brigadier-General Odo Korachi; you are an embarrassment to the State that birthed you. Thank you for your patience, everyone. - Scherezad Research Associate, Lai Dai RBC, Pilot, RDC, I-RED
Ninavask The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 94	Posted - 2015.06.29 02:00:09 - [29] - Quote It is disgusting that CONCORD would act in this way. Taking the remains of such a brilliant scientist from those who would be the only ones likely to handle the remains with respect and offer the man the dignity he deserves. I agree with others, hopefully CONCORD is transparent about their intentions, but let's face it pilots. CONCORD has never been transparent, and will never be transparent about their intentions. Resorting to bullying and Threats. I only wish such an ugly situation could have been avoided. Signed, Dr. Ninavask Revan Curator, The Synenose Accord Dr. Ninavask Revan Curator The Synenose Accord *Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.*
Odo Korachi DED CONCORD Assembly 0	Posted - 2015.06.29 02:12:59 - [30] - Quote Lord Raholan, The Directive Enforcement Department thanks you for making the right decision. Medical staff at DED headquarters have already fully confirmed my fears, and the fears of others also involved in this investigation. Full genetic match in line with Directive Enforcement Department records. The remains of Dr. Hilen Tukoss (PISC GÇô 90415406 ) have been formally and legally identified, and his records will be updated within the next 48 hours to reflect his status as deceased. Once this process is complete, formal legal notification of confirmation of his death will be provided to Eifyr and Co, and the process of exercising his last will and testament may begin. Consider the aforementioned sanctions laid out in the release marked GÇ£STATEMENT GÇô REF 117/06/25 - 099-345697234-099GÇ¥ null and void. The Directive Enforcement Department has no further cause or reason to pursue any of those involved and named in the release marked GÇ£STATEMENT GÇô REF 117/06/25 - 099-345697234-099GÇ¥, and all charges are hereby rescinded. After meeting with Fleet Marshal Vesren this evening, the Directive Enforcement Department considers this matter closed, and the relevant authorities have been informed of their citizenGÇÖs choice to comply with Interstellar Law. Once again, the Directive Enforcement Department thank both yourself and your colleagues for your compliance. To those who seek to levy personal attacks against myself and wider verbal attacks against the DED, feel free. The Directive Enforcement Department is mandated to uphold the integrity of the Yulai Convention and ensure compliance with Interstellar Law, it is not within our scope of operations to bend the rules for those who feel they may be above the law. Regards, Brg. Gn. Odo Korachi Marshal, Genesis Fleet Directive Enforcement Department CONCORD Assembly
Sanguina Dieudonne Amok. Goonswarm Federation 35	Posted - 2015.06.29 02:25:46 - [31] - Quote The next time someone gets their hands on something that CONCORD wants, I am sure that GSF would be willing to take it for safe keeping. (I am not a diplo, though.)
Matar Ronin 561	Posted - 2015.06.29 02:28:01 - [32] - Quote CONCORD is not a police force to protect Capsuleers, they are the police force to protect against Capsuleers, recognize the difference. Do not trust those who seek your destruction or subjugation as a matter of policy. GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
Loen Janeway Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 0	Posted - 2015.06.29 03:36:56 - [33] - Quote Lord Raholan I am glad that you and yours will remain safe and not becomes fugitives, but I have to also side with Mynxee and Ms. Sahriah. While I would like to believe that CONCORD has our best interests at heart I cannot help but wonder. I do hope you know, as Mynxee stated, it was hotly debated within our divisions, and while we strive to maintain the highest level of neutrality, we will always be available as scouts, researchers, etc for you and yours just as much as we are for CONCORD.
Makkal Hanaya Revenent Defence Corperation 1156	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:08:46 - [34] - Quote This is wonderful news. I'm so pleased you came to this decision, Lord Raholan. On the downside, I can no longer eat the cakes people were sending to Scherezad. That's a pity. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 454	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:12:41 - [35] - Quote When CONCORD demanded Sleeper components with no risk, fools gave, despite a third-party option that would have held them to account. CONCORD benefited and yet kept us in the dark. We still have not been told why the Sleeper component drive was truly required for the Tech 3 Destroyers, or what connection it had to Thera. We still have not been told of what CONCORD knew of the Sisters involvement and their doings while hiding there. We have not been told in any way why the Society of Conscious Thought was invited to the Inner Circle discussions, yet Eifyr & Co. was not, nor were the facts ever released. And what have we gained? Drifters. Maybe that's a good trade. When they offered bounties of unheard levels on four capsuleers - something that was not done even for Tibus Heth himself, a true menace to the stability of New Eden - you caved, and Korachi gloats while you give away your independence and the sovereignty of the individual empires. And do you think we will truly get the full story of what they were looking for so urgently? I think we all know that answer. You had offers of safe harbor, financial support, and the moral high ground. But I guess the threat of title revocation and a bumpy ride to a CONCORD-free clone vat was too unpalatable. A price too high for freedom. Another small step on the path to your "Empress" being simply too weak to do anything but bend the knee herself to the "greater good". Too many in this discussion embrace the slow death of 1000 cuts. You are immortal, you are empowered, yet you cower before an organization that has outlived its usefulness, its sponsorship, and its charter. The light of Caroline's Star has heralded a new age, and it is time to embrace it. I am a Lord of Anoikis, as are all in Bob's grace. The Mittani could crush one of the old Empires with barely a pause if he chose to do so. The future is not beneath the cloak of blindness CONCORD throws over you. Yet you chose to be a beholden Holder. Or whatever CONCORD might title you now that you are properly subservient. Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
Aegea Siannodel Trantor Mentalics 2	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:14:50 - [36] - Quote Lucas Raholan , I understand why you did what you did, given the orders you received from those you respect and obey. Also thank you for making this situation so public that DED and Concord can't just hide behind their power. I highly doubt we will be told anything actually useful by odo korachi, as seen already above. Any further information released should be viewed as suspect, due to the overly dramatic and heavy handed response they felt necessary to control the situation, they clearly didn't have control over and more then likely still don't. We as capsuleers should use the full legal rules in the convention to keep the pressure on dud and concord and pry the information we need from their grasp, not waiting for them to "give" it to us when it is useful to them. We are not tools of concord for their whim and use.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6747	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:27:39 - [37] - Quote Sanguina Dieudonne wrote: The next time someone gets their hands on something that CONCORD wants, I am sure that GSF would be willing to take it for safe keeping. (I am not a diplo, though.) Next time, nobody is going to know about it. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1731	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:52:00 - [38] - Quote Rhavas wrote: When CONCORD demanded Sleeper components with no risk, fools gave, despite a third-party option that would have held them to account. CONCORD benefited and yet kept us in the dark. I'm sorry, CONCORD? The empires called for donations, and it was to the empires we donated. The hundreds of components PIE collected were sent to the Imperial Navy, contracted directly to Admiral Karetta, not to CONCORD. Quote: The Mittani could crush one of the old Empires with barely a pause if he chose to do so. Hardly. I also don't see how CONCORD, or the empires, owes us anything. "Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away." -- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 414	Posted - 2015.06.29 05:14:43 - [39] - Quote The Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive would like to commend Lord Lucas Raholan on his choice to submit to the lawful demands of CONCORD. I wish to personally convey my thanks for taking the logical course of action on a matter that would have brought harm to relations between several like-minded organizations and degraded the merits of other individuals. Rikaato. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 459	Posted - 2015.06.29 05:20:53 - [40] - Quote I also don't see how CONCORD, or the empires, owes us anything.[/quote] Samira Kernher wrote: Rhavas wrote: When CONCORD demanded Sleeper components with no risk, fools gave, despite a third-party option that would have held them to account. CONCORD benefited and yet kept us in the dark. I'm sorry, CONCORD? The empires called for donations, and it was to the empires we donated. The hundreds of components PIE collected were sent to the Imperial Navy, contracted directly to Admiral Karetta, not to CONCORD. So charmingly naive. From the Scope story of the first research completion: "a short notice meeting of the CONCORD Assembly's Inner Circle has been called, apparently to discuss the implications of further weaponization of Sleeper derived technologies." How exactly do you think they came to the conclusion simultaneously that it was a good idea to start their "research race"? The answer is quite simple: CONCORD Directive Alpha Gamma 12. Samira Kernher wrote: I also don't see how CONCORD, or the empires, owes us anything. You make my point. They owe you nothing. If you are your own person, make your own choice. If you are loyal to an Empire, see how their sovereignty is eroded through these actions. If you are already a one-cluster government sheep, I cannot help you. Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1733	Posted - 2015.06.29 05:51:15 - [41] - Quote Rhavas wrote: You make my point. They owe you nothing. If you are your own person, make your own choice. If you are loyal to an Empire, see how their sovereignty is eroded through these actions. If you are already a one-cluster government sheep, I cannot help you. CONCORD's reduction of the sovereignty and culture of Amarr is my concern with them, and it's a concern I've raised many times in the past including during the Pakshi conference. But the thing is, it's not me they owe answers to. They owe answers to my government. Capsuleers are always acting like we have some special right to demand their attention, but we don't. If Amarr demands I take action, then I will. But as long as CONCORD is the law of the land, we have an obligation to follow that law. Just as we have an obligation to follow the laws set down by our empire governments and our local governments. "Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away." -- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
Scherezad Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 2011	Posted - 2015.06.29 05:56:17 - [42] - Quote Makkal Hanaya wrote: This is wonderful news. I'm so pleased you came to this decision, Lord Raholan. On the downside, I can no longer eat the cakes people were sending to Scherezad. That's a pity. I will bring you some cake! I'm just getting fat like this, anyways.
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 461	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:19:09 - [43] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Capsuleers are always acting like we have some special right to demand their attention, but we don't. If Amarr demands I take action, then I will. But as long as CONCORD is the law of the land, we have an obligation to follow that law. Just as we have an obligation to follow the laws set down by our empire governments and our local governments. I would argue that as long as CONCORD is the law of the land, if you don't like the law, you have an obligation to drive to change it. Do you really believe that Empress Sarum and her court would not pay attention if the entirety of CVA / PIE sent her letters of protest? Could you make the decision in your empire? No. But Sarum is no fool, she knows that her most loyal capsuleers are more important to the success of her Empire than much of her own Navy. And in the Federation (and a lesser extent the Republic), public voices hold more sway. As for the Caldari ... they accept the discrediting and persecution of a corporation under their banner who have pursued someone the CEP considers a known traitor, and yet they bow to the will of CONCORD. Mind blown. Apparently they are willing to trade Heth for Korachi while Reppola and Oiritsuu sit idly by chatting in the Kaalakiota gardens. Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
H1de0 Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 20	Posted - 2015.06.29 07:23:23 - [44] - Quote Rhavas wrote: When CONCORD demanded Sleeper components with no risk, fools gave, despite a third-party option that would have held them to account. CONCORD benefited and yet kept us in the dark. We still have not been told why the Sleeper component drive was truly required for the Tech 3 Destroyers, or what connection it had to Thera. We still have not been told of what CONCORD knew of the Sisters involvement and their doings while hiding there. We have not been told in any way why the Society of Conscious Thought was invited to the Inner Circle discussions, yet Eifyr & Co. was not, nor were the facts ever released. And what have we gained? Drifters. Maybe that's a good trade. When they offered bounties of unheard levels on four capsuleers - something that was not done even for Tibus Heth himself, a true menace to the stability of New Eden - you caved, and Korachi gloats while you give away your independence and the sovereignty of the individual empires. And do you think we will truly get the full story of what they were looking for so urgently? I think we all know that answer. You had offers of safe harbor, financial support, and the moral high ground. But I guess the threat of title revocation and a bumpy ride to a CONCORD-free clone vat was too unpalatable. A price too high for freedom. Another small step on the path to your "Empress" being simply too weak to do anything but bend the knee herself to the "greater good". Too many in this discussion embrace the slow death of 1000 cuts. You are immortal, you are empowered, yet you cower before an organization that has outlived its usefulness, its sponsorship, and its charter. The light of Caroline's Star has heralded a new age, and it is time to embrace it. I am a Lord of Anoikis, as are all in Bob's grace. The Mittani could crush one of the old Empires with barely a pause if he chose to do so. The future is not beneath the cloak of blindness CONCORD throws over you. Yet you chose to be a beholden Holder. Or whatever CONCORD might title you now that you are properly subservient. Such an easy thing putting things that others own, value and cherish on the line.. Take in to account Rhavas-san, that it wasn't only Raholan-san himself, but, via the Court Chamberlain's statement, his House and property hence his family well-being. As far as I know him, if the consequences would have adhered to his person alone, as a capsuleer, he would probably be more then willing to play "hide and seek" with the DED. Given the power and possibilities we posses, most of us would. But there are things in our lives even we can't afford to gamble upon. Raholan-san kept this going long enough. The case gained public traction. Statements where made. Logic and arguments discussed. But in the end the price was simply to high. All we can do now is honour the decision. Decrypting the Sleeper cache..
Darkblad Hilf Dir selbst in EVE 1129	Posted - 2015.06.29 07:45:55 - [45] - Quote Unfortunately, I was not able to follow the recent events as closely as I desired. I was too busy investigating different developments that is rumored to change other areas of the New Eden Cluster within the next days. This even prevented me from leaving my current location for several weeks now. While I'm no relevant part of the community of active researchers in the field anyway, I still want to express my support for those that had the courage to stand their ground, even though it did'nt last. Sadly, It's only words of support from me, yet. I hope my own situation and schedule will allow me to change that sometime in the near future. I am worried a lot on the way that CONCORD uses their ever growing powers and independence to put pressure on Individuals. Threatening scientists and other capsuleers that earned great reputation, only to treat the remains of Dr. Tukoss with a level of dignity and respect. In the light of CONCORD's accusations, I see Lord Raholan's decision as the only choice he had, even though I still wonder what the real reasons are that drove CONCORD to this sort of attack. I wonder where the Coordination and Relations went, that are the central part of the name CONCORD. The aggressive behaviour (with words, for now) of this organisation worries me since quite a while now and I agree with those of you who consider CONCORD to no longer be an entity of the law but rather one of suppression and pirates. I wonder what CONCORD tries to hide from us. EVE Infolinks GÇó Mining Guide GÇó Missions (EN & DE)
Kahar Dex Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 108	Posted - 2015.06.29 10:36:22 - [46] - Quote I have similar reservations against CONCORD, and I am dismayed that we have forced Raholan's hands. It would have been more suitable to hand over the corpse directly to the Empire, and let them make the final decision. At the Drifter invasion, CONCORD was nowhere to be seen, and nothing was done to the vile pirates who took advantage of the situation by attacking Amarrian warships after their bruised and bloodied fight to protect the Empire and system innocents. Abhorrent.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 1295	Posted - 2015.06.29 10:48:12 - [47] - Quote Scherezad wrote: Makkal Hanaya wrote: This is wonderful news. I'm so pleased you came to this decision, Lord Raholan. On the downside, I can no longer eat the cakes people were sending to Scherezad. That's a pity. I will bring you some cake! I'm just getting fat like this, anyways. I can make pods with expandable waistbands if you're interested :)
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 383	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:52:30 - [48] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: CONCORD's reduction of the sovereignty and culture of Amarr is my concern with them, and it's a concern I've raised many times in the past including during the Pakshi conference. But the thing is, it's not me they owe answers to. They owe answers to my government. They don't. Can you not see for yourself that CONCORD is the government in the space of the old Empires? Even the Matari, as they rebuild their society to bring the Tribes back to the position of primacy they ought to enjoy, bend the knee to CONCORD's orders. That is not a reduction of sovereignty, it is a denial of it. CONCORD allows the Empires to keep the people in line, to keep them distracted with petty feuds and entertainments, while they each surrender their agency, their self-determination, to the Bastards of Yulai. Be free of them. They offer you nothing but false security and empty promises. Has YA0 ever Burned, as Jita has, as Amarr has? Have even the weakest strongholds of the Great Wildlands, or Delve, or Fountain, ever felt the Empires' wrath, or CONCORD's supposed 'power' to even a tithe of that measure? The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm. CONCORD holds itself above even the Empress, the Tribes, the Corporations, or the Senate. And you let them. You, and your 'Empires' kowtow to their corruption, their pathetic, mewling helplessness that promises safety, but can deliver only the barest sop of retribution. What use is 'safety' if it does not actually prevent harm from being done, but only delivers a slap on the wrist to the immortal offenders? They demand your obedience, and offer nothing in return. Be free of them, New Eden. Take responsibility for your own lives, your own security. Beyond the impotent grasp of CONCORD are vast regions of space ripe for the taking... for those willing to rise to greatness. Be free of them. Your destiny is waiting, out there, in the darkness where they have told you that you must be afraid. We are waiting.
Goldfinch House Rkard 22	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:54:30 - [49] - Quote Kahar Dex wrote: I have similar reservations against CONCORD, and I am dismayed that we have forced Raholan's hands. It would have been more suitable to hand over the corpse directly to the Empire, and let them make the final decision. At the Drifter invasion, CONCORD was nowhere to be seen, and nothing was done to the vile pirates who took advantage of the situation by attacking Amarrian warships after their bruised and bloodied fight to protect the Empire and system innocents. Abhorrent. Cardinal Dex, Before we write any further, it is our sincere hope we do not offend or anger you with any of our assertions. That said, we have noticed a fair bit of confusion regarding the aggressive attacks by Drifters striking our home systems and the apparent unsympathetic lack of reaction from CONCORD. As a registered Solicitor, we can tell you that it is difficult even for licensed capsuleer law practitioners to acquire the full text of the fourteen Articles of Yulai Convention (the original from Yioul in YC0 or any amendments thereafter), and we must rely on recorded DED and SCC legal actions and any legal precedents set in official tribunals. However, it is clear that CONCORD and its enforcement arm DED were established for the varied purposes of: Enforce a perpetual climate of non-agression between the four recognized Empire states, with the exception of limited proxy conflict between state-registered Militias, as per the Emergency Militia War Powers Act (Rev 2) Pursue punishment (but not proactive prevention) of criminal acts within Empire space between capsuleers in order to unburden Empire navies from such resource-intensive enforcement activity. In an assistive capacity for acts of smuggling or other minor criminal enterprise. Monitoring and enforcing fair practices in trade agreements and trade transactions through the CAD and SCC. You will note that CONCORD's charter does not involve defending Empire states from a foreign or alien attacking force. Would the role of CONCORD change if the situation becomes so dynamic as it was with the Amarr-Jove War? Perhaps this question is even more complicated since the Jove eventually bring themselves to be assembly contributors, unlike Drifters who provide no dialogue or conference with Empires or capsuleers. If we wanted CONCORD to intervene with Drifters then the proper way to do it would be to influence the Empire delegates who can present a case to CONCORD's Inner Circle on their debating floor. If successful, this may trigger an amendment to CONCORD's Articles to allow offensive intervention. This may also have a very adverse effect on our day-to-day taxes, as I imagine this sort of CONCORD contribution does not come free of charge. We know that DED is considering the Drifter threat from a technical point of view, no doubt upgrading their Marshal and Enforcer fleets with technology capable of combating Drifters. But no one has laid the political groundwork for a change in CONCORD charter. This would be the proper means to introduce a change, not withholding biomass or scathing complaints against DED on IGS. That is our humble opinion. Again, we hope we have not spoken out of line, or offended the esteemed Cardinal. veiled and bound
Utari Onzo Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 345	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:11:40 - [50] - Quote Goldfinch wrote: Kahar Dex wrote: I have similar reservations against CONCORD, and I am dismayed that we have forced Raholan's hands. It would have been more suitable to hand over the corpse directly to the Empire, and let them make the final decision. At the Drifter invasion, CONCORD was nowhere to be seen, and nothing was done to the vile pirates who took advantage of the situation by attacking Amarrian warships after their bruised and bloodied fight to protect the Empire and system innocents. Abhorrent. Cardinal Dex, Before we write any further, it is our sincere hope we do not offend or anger you with any of our assertions. That said, we have noticed a fair bit of confusion regarding the aggressive attacks by Drifters striking our home systems and the apparent unsympathetic lack of reaction from CONCORD. As a registered Solicitor, we can tell you that it is difficult even for licensed capsuleer law practitioners to acquire the full text of the fourteen Articles of Yulai Convention (the original from Yioul in YC0 or any amendments thereafter), and we must rely on recorded DED and SCC legal actions and any legal precedents set in official tribunals. However, it is clear that CONCORD and its enforcement arm DED were established for the varied purposes of: Enforce a perpetual climate of non-agression between the four recognized Empire states, with the exception of limited proxy conflict between state-registered Militias, as per the Emergency Militia War Powers Act (Rev 2) Pursue punishment (but not proactive prevention) of criminal acts within Empire space between capsuleers in order to unburden Empire navies from such resource-intensive enforcement activity. In an assistive capacity for acts of smuggling or other minor criminal enterprise. Monitoring and enforcing fair practices in trade agreements and trade transactions through the CAD and SCC. You will note that CONCORD's charter does not involve defending Empire states from a foreign or alien attacking force. Would the role of CONCORD change if the situation becomes so dynamic as it was with the Amarr-Jove War? Perhaps this question is even more complicated since the Jove eventually bring themselves to be assembly contributors, unlike Drifters who provide no dialogue or conference with Empires or capsuleers. If we wanted CONCORD to intervene with Drifters then the proper way to do it would be to influence the Empire delegates who can present a case to CONCORD's Inner Circle on their debating floor. If successful, this may trigger an amendment to CONCORD's Articles to allow offensive intervention. This may also have a very adverse effect on our day-to-day taxes, as I imagine this sort of CONCORD contribution does not come free of charge. We know that DED is considering the Drifter threat from a technical point of view, no doubt upgrading their Marshal and Enforcer fleets with technology capable of combating Drifters. But no one has laid the political groundwork for a change in CONCORD charter. This would be the proper means to introduce a change, not withholding biomass or scathing complaints against DED on IGS. That is our humble opinion. Again, we hope we have not spoken out of line, or offended the esteemed Cardinal. This. This is the means for change, not acting rashly, not making threats of action against a legal body no one here can cash in on. It is by petition and public pressure that we can enact change, by making it politically untenable not to do so. As mentioned by Ms Bloodstone and my superior Lt Kernher, it's one of the means we hoped the PPC could make a difference. Your excellency, Cardinal Dex, I hope you might lend your voice and efforts to making legal change through this proper proceedure. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Quin Mansa Mamelik Hurusiyyad 36	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:17:35 - [51] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: CONCORD's reduction of the sovereignty and culture of Amarr is my concern with them, and it's a concern I've raised many times in the past including during the Pakshi conference. But the thing is, it's not me they owe answers to. They owe answers to my government. The wisdom of the Court Chamberlain and Imperial Chancellor was not lost on Lord Raholan, whom i believe responded admirably to God's test. I can scarcely imagine the weight of such a decision. However, having only returned to duty after these recent events transpired, I would echo the concerns of my brothers and sisters in faith. We must spare no effort to ensure that the faithful, no matter where in Creation, are not deceived by such outbursts of belligerence from peregrine forces. God is with His Chosen; His Word and none other is Law.
Tarek Raimo Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords 35	Posted - 2015.06.29 21:22:58 - [52] - Quote An Amarrian berating another organisation for being tyrannical. Such irony can only be appreciated during the dark times for freedom and justice we are living through. That being said, I do not disagree with capsuleer Raholan's statements and his actions were reasonable in the face of such insanity. It is obvious that no sensible argument will deter an organisation that is prepared to offer enough ISK to buy a whole fleet of warships for something petty as inspecting a genetic sample for its match with CONCORDs capsuleer registry. The fact that CONCORD actually acts in such extreme ways does not bode well though. What next?
Kale Silence Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking 91	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:01:03 - [53] - Quote Odo Korachi wrote: To those who seek to levy personal attacks against myself and wider verbal attacks against the DED, feel free. The Directive Enforcement Department is mandated to uphold the integrity of the Yulai Convention and ensure compliance with Interstellar Law, it is not within our scope of operations to bend the rules for those who feel they may be above the law. How about next time you do the big boy thing and ask for it nicely and only give threats when compliance isn't given, before going straight to it. You are an ahole and this Raholan dude deserves an apology in the form of previously threatened plexes! Also, he wasn't acting "above the law". He's a fing Amarrian and I can still see he was trying to be honorable! He complied when a true authority he was under ordered him to obey, and so he did. The DED has as much power as the empires give them, and no more. The DED is pathetic if they think they still hold respect from capsuleers. Isn't the point of the law to serve and protect? How about you try serving and protecting, rather than ordering and attacking? Hmm? Bunch of aholes... "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care."* - Anonymous
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1314	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:17:19 - [54] - Quote Whelp, their goes any leverage the capsuleer community could have negotiated with.... sad. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 561	Posted - 2015.06.30 14:24:56 - [55] - Quote Funny, I thought you'd have held on those for at least a bit longer, Raholan. I suppose I was too naive and had too high hopes for your integrity. Pity to see events play out like this, but I'm certainly glad I'm not much of a betting man. Lucas Raholan wrote: ...demands and threats befitting that of the Angel Cartel... I find it rather insulting to imply we have so little class. Quote: ...who see CONCORD and the DED for what they truly are, nothing better than pirates of the worst kind. Insert mandatory 'told you so'. Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Mark726 Project Compass Holdings 200	Posted - 2015.07.01 02:09:42 - [56] - Quote I was disappointed to turn my attention back from solely planetary manners to see this development, though I can hardly fault Mr. Raholan for his decision to put his family first and foremost. I am glad this situation has resolved peacefully, but I cannot help but wonder what CONCORD will demand next in the interest of fulfilling their mandates, and what the price exacted will be. Day by day, I become less and less clear on exactly what, if anything, is at all worthy of my trust and support, but those are thoughts for another time. Author, EVE Travel Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
Soldarius Naliao Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore 1325	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:19:44 - [57] - Quote "Whatever is has already been, and what will be has been before; and God will call the past to account. "And I saw something else under the sun: In the place of judgmentGÇöwickedness was there, in the place of justiceGÇöwickedness was there. "I said to myself, GÇ£God will bring into judgment both the righteous and the wicked, for there will be a time for every activity, a time to judge every deed." http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Max Singularity House Singularity 204	Posted - 2015.07.01 19:58:06 - [58] - Quote Rhavas wrote: When CONCORD demanded Sleeper components with no risk, fools gave, despite a third-party option that would have held them to account. CONCORD benefited and yet kept us in the dark. We still have not been told why the Sleeper component drive was truly required for the Tech 3 Destroyers, or what connection it had to Thera. We still have not been told of what CONCORD knew of the Sisters involvement and their doings while hiding there. We have not been told in any way why the Society of Conscious Thought was invited to the Inner Circle discussions, yet Eifyr & Co. was not, nor were the facts ever released. And what have we gained? Drifters. Maybe that's a good trade. When they offered bounties of unheard levels on four capsuleers - something that was not done even for Tibus Heth himself, a true menace to the stability of New Eden - you caved, and Korachi gloats while you give away your independence and the sovereignty of the individual empires. And do you think we will truly get the full story of what they were looking for so urgently? I think we all know that answer. You had offers of safe harbor, financial support, and the moral high ground. But I guess the threat of title revocation and a bumpy ride to a CONCORD-free clone vat was too unpalatable. A price too high for freedom. Another small step on the path to your "Empress" being simply too weak to do anything but bend the knee herself to the "greater good". Too many in this discussion embrace the slow death of 1000 cuts. You are immortal, you are empowered, yet you cower before an organization that has outlived its usefulness, its sponsorship, and its charter. The light of Caroline's Star has heralded a new age, and it is time to embrace it. I am a Lord of Anoikis, as are all in Bob's grace. The Mittani could crush one of the old Empires with barely a pause if he chose to do so. The future is not beneath the cloak of blindness CONCORD throws over you. Yet you chose to be a beholden Holder. Or whatever CONCORD might title you now that you are properly subservient. I support this product and/or service. Does not disappoint. Would recommend again. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- ((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
Morgana Tsukiyo Samsara Dynamics 6	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:16:35 - [59] - Quote What would that testament be? Odo Korachi wrote: (...) Once this process is complete, formal legal notification of confirmation of his death will be provided to Eifyr and Co, and the process of exercising his last will and testament may begin. (...) Regards, Brg. Gn. Odo Korachi Marshal, Genesis Fleet Directive Enforcement Department CONCORD Assembly
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 1326	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:24:38 - [60] - Quote Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: What would that testament be? Odo Korachi wrote: (...) Once this process is complete, formal legal notification of confirmation of his death will be provided to Eifyr and Co, and the process of exercising his last will and testament may begin. (...) Regards, Brg. Gn. Odo Korachi Marshal, Genesis Fleet Directive Enforcement Department CONCORD Assembly Wouldn't it just be ironic if he left his remains to medical science...
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 7258	Posted - 2015.07.02 00:16:55 - [61] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: I support this product and/or service. Does not disappoint. Would recommend again. He does product endorsements, but he still won't sell that one jacket... grumblegrumble. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1334	Posted - 2015.07.02 02:07:41 - [62] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: Max Singularity wrote: I support this product and/or service. Does not disappoint. Would recommend again. He does product endorsements, but he still won't sell that one jacket... grumblegrumble. I'll sell you that jacket for 10 billion ISK. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Rivr Luzade Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi 1552	Posted - 2015.07.02 06:39:34 - [63] - Quote Arrendis wrote: They don't. Can you not see for yourself that CONCORD is the government in the space of the old Empires? Even the Matari, as they rebuild their society to bring the Tribes back to the position of primacy they ought to enjoy, bend the knee to CONCORD's orders. That is not a reduction of sovereignty, it is a denial of it. Yet you expect people to bend the knee to a self-proclaimed Emperor and render themselves to his will. I wonder what's worse: your hypocrisy or Concord's rightly silence on sensitive matters. An interesting fact to this "Emperor": Pope is not used as designation in the Amarr Empire. Instead, a very distinctly different faction uses it. Following them is even more interesting when it comes to getting this individual on the throne. From what I am aware of, they employ an even more radical interpretation of scriptures and slavery. Station Tab :: UI Improvement Collective
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 387	Posted - 2015.07.03 19:56:26 - [64] - Quote Rivr Luzade wrote: Yet you expect people to bend the knee to a self-proclaimed Emperor and render themselves to his will. I wonder what's worse: your hypocrisy or Concord's rightly silence on sensitive matters. An interesting fact to this "Emperor": Pope is not used as designation in the Amarr Empire. Instead, a very distinctly different faction uses it. Following them is even more interesting when it comes to getting this individual on the throne. From what I am aware of, they employ an even more radical interpretation of scriptures and slavery. I expect only that people will take charge of their own lives. Yes, I put my faith in leaders who have thrown in with the Emperor's cause: to remove the False Empress from power. Have I done so because I am personally beholden to him? Or have I done so because I trust those who have not led me poorly in the past? Or, as a proud member of the Sebiestor Tribe, have I done so because of the chaos and destruction a civil war would render within the Amarr Empire? I expect people to take responsibility for their own lives, to own their actions, acknowledge motivations, and not simply hand over their self-determination to the thugs with the biggest guns. CONCORD's 'silence' on sensitive matters is no silence at all: they opposed the proliferation of new station-shielding systems, the distribution of Entosis technology, and now this. This is not silence, this is 'shut up and stop asking questions'. As you yourself can attest, out beyond the Empires' reach, beyond CONCORD's thralldom, we are not all unified, and we are not all rallying to any cause... save one: each of us to our own. That is what those capsuleers still allowing themselves to be shackled and yoked by CONCORD's authority should hearken to.

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