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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
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Posted - 2015.07.02 22:31:56 -
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Tacct wrote:The re-acceptance has me curious, did anything actually change? Its still dated as last being updated in 2012.
Also, a quick search of the portion mentioned in the original post shows that companies just copy sections of each other's ToS / EULA word for word. And in CCP's case, apparently they do so even when it doesn't make sense.
A good case for that section of the EULA to be updated with EVE specific information.
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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.02 22:45:10 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:I really think everyone in this thread should just admit they don't have a ******* clue what it says and demand clarification from CCP.
But yeah, good catch. Whenever they change the EULA they should explicitly state what they changed. Having to read the whole thing again just to figure that out is a gigantic pain in the ass.
Providing Change Logs as summary information for revised contractual documents like EULAs? 
Shirley you jest. 
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
"Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied."
EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
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Lugia3
The Africans
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Posted - 2015.07.02 22:47:56 -
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I believe that is Lawyer-speak for "Don't glitch any CCP Polaris items into your hangar, we won't like it."
"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Remove Sov!
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Areen Sassel
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Posted - 2015.07.03 01:13:11 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:There is a reason 99.999% of us didnt read the EULA change. If you play with no intention of abusing game mechanics those rules will never be a problem for you, either stop worrying or stop cheating.
Or if you engage in a scam involving impersonating another character. I'm sure no-one ever tried that with no intention of cheating at EVE.
Or if you did something entirely outside the game on TeamSpeak, say. How does one cheat at EVE on TeamSpeak?
Or if you have some things "that are inappropriate for the level or rank of the character contained in the Account", like - for example - a level or rank. I have never had a level or rank in EVE. How do I get one? Is this text copied wholesale from some sort of generic MMO paperwork (hint, yes, as Google will tell you)? |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.07.03 01:27:55 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:There is a reason 99.999% of us didnt read the EULA change. If you play with no intention of abusing game mechanics those rules will never be a problem for you, either stop worrying or stop cheating. Or if you engage in a scam involving impersonating another character. I'm sure no-one ever tried that with no intention of cheating at EVE. Or if you did something entirely outside the game on TeamSpeak, say. How does one cheat at EVE on TeamSpeak? Or if you have some things "that are inappropriate for the level or rank of the character contained in the Account", like - for example - a level or rank. I have never had a level or rank in EVE. How do I get one? Is this text copied wholesale from some sort of generic MMO paperwork (hint, yes, as Google will tell you)?
Lol just copy pasting other MMOs legalese imto the EvE Eula
Lol
Wow these Eve lawyers are top notch.
If you doubt just see how they handled the Alliance logo aubmission.....
Can The Mittani just take over as CCPs top Law Dog Lawyer? We need some competence in there |
Xiantra
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Posted - 2015.07.09 06:48:47 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:I really think everyone in this thread should just admit they don't have a ******* clue what it says and demand clarification from CCP.
But yeah, good catch. Whenever they change the EULA they should explicitly state what they changed. Having to read the whole thing again just to figure that out is a gigantic pain in the ass.
Totally agree. Someday when I have money to burn, I'm going to mount a legal challenge to all EULAs (a) longer than two pages, and (b) which are unable to be understood by a high school senior with an average grade point. There is no way these ridiculous pieces of work are binding in their current literally unreadable form. The entire notion of needing a trained lawyer to understand an agreement to simply play a game defies the intent of a functioning legal system - and thus it is most likely unconstitutional (or insert your country's core bill of rights here) and non-binding. We probably just need to mount the challenge.
Yeah, I know, the choir is bored ...
Seriously, CCP lawyers, for once do something with the slightest though toward your target audience: post an update to the EULA with **CHANGE BARS**!
Oh, and why does it say on the last line "Updated April 16, 2012" if we are having to sign it over 3 years later? |
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