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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:56:00 -
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I am sorry if any new player to eve ever loose their ships and their clones durring an NVA security force operation. As everyone here knows, Enemy fleets OFTEN use noob alts for scouting purposes. They are cheap and easy to operate and hey, we use them too. We just don't complain when they are turned into space junk.
I wish that everyone could read the debate and discussion in the NVA military command channel whenever a noobship is discovered in or around the war zone that is Venal and Pure Blind. We really try to give the benefit of the doubt most of the time, while still keeping the safety of our security forces a top priority. Unfortunately, the safest route to take is to simply destroy the ship and its pilot. It's a sad fact of war, but a neccessary one.
I would like to take this opportunity to appologize to all actuall noob pilots that may have strayed into our unwanted warzone and were destroyed. You were not pirated, you were removed from a war zone. (believe me there is nothing to pirate on a noobship)
However, if you are one of those poor, lost souls that strayed into our gunfire, there is a course of action for you to reclaim your losses. Simply contact me in in game. I will then give you instructions on how to obtain a new low end frigate and clone from Oberon-inc FREE OF CHARGE. All we will ask is a screenshot of your character loggin screen and confirmation from the NVA pilot that destroyed you.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 18:58:00 -
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Heavens above, do we need a flip-chart with coloured crayons to illustrate this point?
"Jehutty" outed her/hiself in another thread ... the main is a Biomass player that posted a rant about NVA spec ops running around in FDZ.
As a rule its easy to spot pointless cowardly alts and you know how?
1. Yes its their first post ever.
2. They have no pics (obviously)
3. They jump in at the deep end of alliance politics (not like honest noobs, who often begin their forum usage with more neutral and modest beginnings)
4. They generally make an anti-personality flame.
5. They often sound identical to their main.
6. Once "outed" they generally fade away.
As a rule ... I hate alts. I can see why some people use them ingame. But I don't think people should ever use alts to argue game politics or make personal attacks.
To my taste it is cowardly rubbish and shows that the alt-user is a person of marginal esteem and fleeting worth.
If you are going to say something, say it with your main.
Anyone doesn't like what *I* say or think or express on the boards they know where to find me in-game to hold me to account.
Eve would be a better place if everyone played by these rules.
Love and peace (and death to all pointless numpty alt posters).
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2003.11.15 20:08:00 -
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Lol,excuse me as i stil chuckle to myslerf a sec over Jades pointless points.......anyway,Jade IM AT WORK....cant get my pic from here....AHAHAHAH figure it out check my second reply in this thread as to me saying,Im at work.OMFG figure it out.Look Ill be on tonight and Ill msg you.I have played for 7 months now and never had the point to file in a thread but now I do.You seem to know so much over alts I wonder how many you have!**** wanna call me to to make sure......look me up on eve and see if im an alt.Hell ask the turn coat Levia if Im an alt,she seems to be able to spew info over everything else.And I try not to post too much becuase I am a miner,not a fighter I mine and observe.Hence why I say I have seen you as a hypocrite the entire time and so is the Nva!
No matter how big
No matter how strong
It always boils down to name calling !!! |
raggaman
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Posted - 2003.11.16 03:32:00 -
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you all smell
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.11.16 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 16/11/2003 04:14:50
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NVA spec ops
ROFL 
Probably the most amusing thing ive ever seen jade write!
"spec ops"
And theres me thinking it was a bunch of boulder bashers who traded their miner II's for Tachyons
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.19 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/11/2003 01:00:54
softcore wobble-cheeked wormlings and belly crawlers I have to put up with!
???
I guess it's worse than the HARDCORE wobble-cheeked wormlings?
Where does she get this stuff?
Hi Jade. I took some time away. But now I am back.
Miss me? XOXOXOXO 
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.19 14:27:00 -
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Yep we're all pirates. Kind of like it too. In fact were all SI alts and the entire SI vs NVA thing has been a total scam from day one. It was just a easy way to gank a lot of noobs.
Feel better?
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AndoJin
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Posted - 2003.11.19 16:07:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yur are Pathetic M,Dear..... NVA-anyone who is part of that CULT, might as well move to Waco TX and call themself davidians. They believe that they aer doing something better than anyone else, they hide they secs ratings by attacking defenseless miners in 0.0, they hide like cowards in stations when the odds are not 3-1 in there favor and the one they fight isn't a miner.. GUys you are a JOKE. I know your looking to have a little fun, but take some VIAGRA and giddie up, because I know you need it.
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Laby
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Posted - 2003.11.19 18:36:00 -
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Cheese should be free!
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.19 21:30:00 -
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This jehutty feeb is yet another Biomass/Crice alt-muppet. Check out the "oops-I-forgot-to-change-back-to-my-main-before-posting" screw-up on the "too many anti-pirates thread."
You have no idea what your talking about. But yes NVA are just mad, because they can't hurt Biomass so thye come after a NON-related corp that is in the FA. Although this is changing that is not your concern, nor would you care since your just bitter and angry for GOD ONLYS KNOWS WHAT. Your probably as bored as I am, so I guess I would go pick the weakest link and try to blow up the miners also.... NOTHING MORE THAN A PIRATE, but hey... Your Pirates in Denial.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.19 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/11/2003 01:00:54
Why oh why can't I get a hate post from someone with a little courage every now and then? It's an endless conveyour-belt of gutless anonymouse nithling sub-muppets on the menu these days ... lordy, what a shower of softcore wobble-cheeked wormlings and belly crawlers I have to put up with!
Jade,
Do you really think your funny? I mean seriously?
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.19 21:36:00 -
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Ever get the feeling there's at least four people from the nva patrolling the boards constantly in order to hijack every non-nva thread that comes along just to try and save face? It's getting old. All Alliances should just put them on their KOS list and let's get it on.
Its certainly less sad than biobuddies and space mupperts doing the same patrolling by their lonesomes and numerous alts used to support their own arguments.
Ryoko you are a prat for speaking in support of this Jehanni alt trying to pull a biomass confidence trick.
Jade,
What do you do in RL? Flip Burgers or something? The wife cheat on you? Your really Really bitter... And childish. Grow up. It's a game. People do what they must. I don't give a crap about your issues with M3G4 or your imputency problems. Tell Levi hi...
Your pathetic and so are these boards... Bye Bye...
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.19 21:53:00 -
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resorting to making "rl" insults is like admitting defeat on the real battlefield, which is the here and now, in eve.
as if it wasn't already obvious that crice was a biomass alt corp anyhow.
im not stepping in just to defend jade, cus she doesn't need defense. im just saying dissin on someone's rl shows how weak your in game character is. |
Ryoko
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Posted - 2003.11.19 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoko on 19/11/2003 22:01:47
I was just trying to be funny :/
I laughed.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.19 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 19/11/2003 22:04:39
"What do you do in RL? Flip Burgers or something? The wife cheat on you? Your really Really bitter... And childish. Grow up. It's a game."
... Listen to your own advice; it is indeed a game. Roleplaying game to boot. How someone treats "you" in character, in game has little if anything to do with their RL persona, occupation and habits.
Btw, calling someone childish and telling them to grow up right after you insult them like a kid... priceless.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.19 23:44:00 -
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Crice dribbled (from the corner of his mouth)
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What do you do in RL? Flip Burgers or something? The wife cheat on you? Your really Really bitter... And childish. Grow up. It's a game. People do what they must. I don't give a crap about your issues with M3G4 or your imputency problems. Tell Levi hi...
Ummmm none of your freakin business muppet-man ;)
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Your pathetic and so are these boards... Bye Bye...
Actually Crice, I think its pretty obvious who is pathetic here.
ta-ta and toodle-pip!
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2003.11.20 02:58:00 -
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"pirates"? "hipocrisy"??
Go read this thread and tell me you weren't just talking smack.
How about this argument: I have seen you kill a PC ship, griefers kill PC ships too. OMG, you must be a griefer! Let me go inform CCP...
Topic of the day: "flawed logic".
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Mikael Redenko
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Posted - 2003.11.20 04:19:00 -
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Wow, these forums are quite entertaining! I'm just sitting here, letting patches update on my computer, and this is making the time go by so much quicker. Jade, I had a run in with you a long time ago on my way to FDZ, I was in a Moa, and you msged me asking what our affiliation was with M3G4-and I said we pay for a mining pass, at that point you said I should sever all connections with then M3G4 or you would shoot me. LOL, I sit back, and ponder that, and I'm just wondering, I was fitted with mining beams on my moa, a harmless little cruiser, and you were going to attack me? I think you should come to grips that you are a pirate. Why don't you come to .3 space and do the same things you do in Venal,and lets see what your security rating ends up looking like. And to all the other NVA currently scouting FDZ and that area, when you attack us 3 vs 1, don't run when we come back with even odds, quit hiding behind the fact Biomass are pirates, that's no excuse for your chickens**t actions. Come in force or stay where you are. Actions speak louder then words.
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Ryoko
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Posted - 2003.11.20 04:32:00 -
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"pirates"? "hipocrisy"??
Go read this thread and tell me you weren't just talking smack.
How about this argument: I have seen you kill a PC ship, griefers kill PC ships too. OMG, you must be a griefer! Let me go inform CCP...
Topic of the day: "flawed logic".
You know, he is talking smack, but my thread actually goes through the logic of how if you shoot noob#2853 just for being in Y-4CFK, you are just as much the player killer as I am. The term griefer was used only in the beginning of the thread to get the ball rolling, but that's also explained there. I fail to see how my thread does anything but support his original post.
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2003.11.20 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: xeno calligan on 20/11/2003 06:15:09
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You know, he is talking smack, but my thread actually goes through the logic of how if you shoot noob#2853 just for being in Y-4CFK, you are just as much the player killer as I am. The term griefer was used only in the beginning of the thread to get the ball rolling, but that's also explained there. I fail to see how my thread does anything but support his original post.
Essentially, his initial post boils down to "NVA are pirate hypocrites". I was under the impression that we had established that being an aliance pilot does not imply neither "griefer" nor "piracy", non?
If you're simply saying that alliance pilots are just as much PKers as you are for shooting noob#2853, I completely aggree. But "pirate" is simply an incorrect label to use.
In either event, I'm still hoping for a reply from you on the "hypocrisy" part in the other thread 
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Ryoko
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Posted - 2003.11.20 07:06:00 -
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I think that thread is ready to die so I'll just give you a brief summary.
Alliances are saying they are against pirate acts and then commit the same acts, feeling justified however by saying it is for defensive purposes.
Letting anyone into 'your territory' without incident, and then going to kill Space Invaders is not being a hypocrite. Saying you are against the type of player killing Space Invaders participate in and then firing on Space Invaders is, however, being a hypocrite. Please don't take this as a nva vs. si thing. I'm only using our name as an example.
Alliance claims some region.
Alliance says to enter means death.
Space Invaders claims all .4~ space.
Space Invaders says to enter means death.
Since our actual justifications for having the right to 'claim' a territory are equally invalid, then no one is actually in a 'defensive' position because your 'homeland' is a figment of your imagination.
If you attack ANYONE first, then you are just as much a player killer as anyone you can name.
Hope this helps,
Ryoko
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2003.11.20 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: xeno calligan on 20/11/2003 07:53:02
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I think that thread is ready to die so I'll just give you a brief summary.
Alliances are saying they are against pirate acts and then commit the same acts, feeling justified however by saying it is for defensive purposes.
Letting anyone into 'your territory' without incident, and then going to kill Space Invaders is not being a hypocrite. Saying you are against the type of player killing Space Invaders participate in and then firing on Space Invaders is, however, being a hypocrite. Please don't take this as a nva vs. si thing. I'm only using our name as an example.
Alliance claims some region.
Alliance says to enter means death.
Space Invaders claims all .4~ space.
Space Invaders says to enter means death.
Since our actual justifications for having the right to 'claim' a territory are equally invalid, then no one is actually in a 'defensive' position because your 'homeland' is a figment of your imagination.
If you attack ANYONE first, then you are just as much a player killer as anyone you can name.
Hope this helps,
Ryoko
Well, it's quite rarely put exactly like that when ppl pull out the flamers.
Still the main problem is that you have to look at intent as well if you want to use words like "pirate". A soldier killing in defense of his country and taking the spoils of war, a terrorist attacking innocents and collecting "trophies" and a pirate robbing modules off a frozen corpse are all committing the same act: murder. But that doesn't mean that soldiers, terrorists and pirates are the same. Most allicances are against attacking pilots with the intent to rob the victim, since it doesn't fit with their sense of morality. So, saying you (as an alliance) are against piracy is not hipocrisy, but saying you're against PKing is.
If Space Invaders claims all .4~ space, then that makes you a 1 corp "alliance" rather than the other way around IMO. 
I think validity is in the eyes of the beholder and that generally most ppl would think a large alliance claiming a region would be more "valid" than a small corp claiming all 0.4~ space (no offense to si, ofcourse).
Finally, I aggree that if you attack anyone first, then you are just as much a player killer as anyone you can name. But it doesn't make you the same type of player killer either.
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