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Florindel	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:55:00 - [1] xls seems to be like that
Florindel	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:07:00 - [2] 1. broken drone transceiver 2. burned logic circuit 3. charred micro circuit 4. conductive polymer 5. contaminated lorentz fluid 6. contaminated nanite compound 7. damaged artificial neural networ 8. defective current pump 9. fried interface circuit 10. malfunctioning shield 11. scorched telemetry processor 12. smashed trigger unit 13. tangled power conduit 14. thruster console 15. tripped power circuit
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:22:00 - [3] Can you explain what this is?
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:27:00 - [4] wrong forum, but such spreadsheet is much welcomed. also use eve-files for it. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.01 06:39:00 - [5] yep, i'm sure it will get some use at least till someone makes one that shows every rig bpo - component - quantity - skills - research combo possible
mr passie Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 06:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Florindel 1. broken drone transceiver 2. burned logic circuit 3. charred micro circuit 4. conductive polymer 5. contaminated lorentz fluid 6. contaminated nanite compound 7. damaged artificial neural networ 8. defective current pump 9. fried interface circuit 10. malfunctioning shield 11. scorched telemetry processor 12. smashed trigger unit 13. tangled power conduit 14. thruster console 15. tripped power circuit they changed material needs for minmatar ships? I'm a reversed paranoid schizophrenic. I have voices in my head I just think I don't hear them!
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.01 10:36:00 - [7] Originally by: mr passie they changed material needs for minmatar ships? nah, these are the rigs minmatar ships are still duct tape, scrap metal and ship wrecks
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.01 12:41:00 - [8] The passive shield tanking rigs are not the same as the shield rigs on your chart. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Qual Gallente Cornexant Research	Posted - 2006.12.01 13:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Florindel seems to be like that Then it seems wrong. Do more research. "The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf
JeanPierre	Posted - 2006.12.01 17:08:00 - [10] Originally by: franny Originally by: mr passie they changed material needs for minmatar ships? nah, these are the rigs minmatar ships are still duct tape, scrap metal and ship wrecks Wouldn't it be a neat feature to allow those of us who can salvage the ability to salvage a Minmatar ship while it's still being piloted? That would rock.
Florindel	Posted - 2006.12.01 17:16:00 - [11] Really, three riggs from the shield class require the other set of components for manufacturing. I corrected the table and added the column of the components frequency use. All the information in the table is from the (market -> manufacture & research -> blueprints -> ship modifications -> info of all blueprints -> bill of materials -> manufacturing -> materials) IÆve just tabulated it.
Malena Perpetual Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.01 17:40:00 - [12] Is there a spreadsheet showing what each rig boosts, drawbacks calibration points and components required? Basically an updated item database is what I am looking for, but given how hard CCP must be working on other stuff I don't expect to see that anytime soon.
Florindel	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:11:00 - [13] I salvagered Asteroid Blood Raiders a couple of nights. Components dropped in the following proportion: ~31.%Melted Capacitor Console (not use for manufacturing riggs) ~21.%tangled power conduit ~16.%contaminated nanite compound ~16.%defective current pump ~ 8.%charred micro circuit ~ 3.%burned logic circuit ~ 2.%damaged artificial neural networ ~ 2.%fried interface circuit ~ 2.%tripped power circuit Due to the table all the three components for manufacturing of Armor, Electronics Superiority, Energy Grid, Energy Weapon, drop from Blood Raiders May be the dropping of components not in the least depend on the NPC type. IÆd like greatly to see the results of Salvager of other types of NPC.
Kella DelRae Ammu-Nation	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:19:00 - [14] No use for Alloyed Tritanium Bar? Quote: Tritanium based alloy for use in applications requiring extremely high strength and temperature resistance. Some examples are thruster mounts or afterburner nozzles. Drop like candy off of angels cruisers.
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.01 22:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Kella DelRae No use for Alloyed Tritanium Bar? Quote: Tritanium based alloy for use in applications requiring extremely high strength and temperature resistance. Some examples are thruster mounts or afterburner nozzles. Drop like candy off of angels cruisers. charts incomplete, I can think of 1 rig that uses it
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.02 00:04:00 - [16] Originally by: franny Originally by: Kella DelRae No use for Alloyed Tritanium Bar? Quote: Tritanium based alloy for use in applications requiring extremely high strength and temperature resistance. Some examples are thruster mounts or afterburner nozzles. Drop like candy off of angels cruisers. charts incomplete, I can think of 1 rig that uses it Cargohold rig. Speaking of which, I could use some ATBs if someone is selling. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Ventoro Roliata Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.02 00:20:00 - [17] I have done a bit of salvaging and would concur with Florindel's rough percentages of item yields. This leaves me VERY concerned if these rig components are accurate. Two of the most widely used components, the burned logic circuit and the fried micro circuit, are some of the rarest drops. As you need 110 logic circuits to make several of the rigs, and it drops only 3% of the time (it has dropped less than that for me), then you would need to have collected over 3600 items to get enough of this component to build one rig!!! Of course the number of salvage attempts would be much higher. I surely hope they change this. The way it stands many of the rig recipes don't seem to make sense. I have gotten many of the malfunctioning shield emitters as drops, but they aren't even used in many of the shield rigs, but instead the logic circuits are I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the boards. Is anyone else as concerned as I am about this and are there plans to look at the rig ingredients?
CptEagle Gallente Stargate Command...	Posted - 2006.12.02 00:45:00 - [18] Well maybe they are ment to be rare?
Ventoro Roliata Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.02 01:02:00 - [19] Edited by: Ventoro Roliata on 02/12/2006 01:10:00 The rareness of rigs is a related but different matter and has been debated in other threads. It has also been stated that people have gathered roughly 100 salvage parts in a day of constant salvage. If it takes 3600 parts to find the ones you need you are talking about 36 full days of salvage to make one rig. As I have been involved with salvage and have bought several rig bpo's, I am interested in them keeping a high value, and thus thus completely espouse the idea of them remaining rare, but I think this goes beyond rare and is reaching into the impossible. Additionally, people will be winding up with hundreds of unused component parts that are dropping frequently but dont have much use in the rig recipes. This does not make sense to me.
Actanna Levh	Posted - 2006.12.02 10:13:00 - [20] Yeah, I to am wondering about how I am going to get enough Charred Micro circuit, Tripped power circuit and especially fried interface. I've been salvaging Angels in hostile 0.0 space for a couple of days. Results: Alloyed Tritanium Bar1635.56% Burned logic circuit36.67% Charred micro circuit24.44% Smashed trigger unit2044.44% Thruster console36.67% Tripped power circuit12.22% You'd get more if you were following friendlies obviously. No rigs for me till I find a source of other components then. I can't be sure but I think the "common" types I can pick up from small wrecks and rarer only the "better" wrecks. Still trying to work that out.
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.03 03:33:00 - [21] Originally by: CptEagle Well maybe they are ment to be rare? Speaking of rare parts, has anyone compiled a list of what salvage parts are common, and what's factional. It would be nice to know what else besides ATBs are only found in certain space.* * I'm assuming shield emitters are the Caldari drop, so that would leave 1 for each Gallente and Amarr, assuming there's 1 for each race ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic

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