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Mennox
Amarr New Triad
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:38:00 -
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Im after a new ship after a month break...and both these ships are around 60mil each on market.
Which of these ships is best to do LVL 2-3 missions with ease? and wats a good possible setup?
cheers
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Segmentor
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Segmentor on 01/12/2006 13:16:25
Personally, i dont fly Amarr ships, but i would suggest the Armageddon for lvl3 missions. Youll be able to tank it all pretty well, and will kill things easily. For lvl2 missions, just take a cruiser a or destroyer.
Harbingers are good ships overall, but they are VERY expensive atm. So unless you wanna spend ~100mil on a shiny new ship that hasnt yet been tested properly, and honestly not worth those money, you'd better still go with the Geddon. ---
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Itzena
Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:43:00 -
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My suggestion: Get a Prophecy now, and a Harbinger once the prices normalise. The giant gold chickens are half-decent ships now. -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be. |

Mennox
Amarr New Triad
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:50:00 -
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My last ship was a prophecy which when i left i gave to my guildie and he got it blown up within days haha
was looking for something that could handle 2-3 without probs...maybe i had wrong setup on my prophecy
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Soraya Kha'marr
Amarr Gun Metal Priests The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:21:00 -
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i use a prophecy for lvl 3s (had arbitrator for lvl 2s) and have no major problems except for the occasional mission like mordus headhunters and the like, and thats mostly because my tanking skills are still mediocre. i could have them good enough to laugh through any lvl 3s within two weeks. about what ship to get (the way i would): - Prophecy with its good resists for missions - Harbinger for pvp - Geddon for pvp and some lvl 4s
This space is mine, mine alone!!!oneoneeleven! (You can rent it for cookies though.)
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:22:00 -
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Harbinger prices are already down to 50m in Jita and still falling, so they're not too bad. They're much better against cruisers than an Armageddon, I would think.
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God forbid
Amarr Mithril Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:31:00 -
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Well Harbinger is really a fun ship, You gonna use it for lvl 2-3missions I would go for That and for solo pvp I think Harbinger is better of than the geddon, but I would still use the Geddon in pvp and for lvl 4 missions, But u Dont need a armageddon for lvl 2-3 missions..
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Orrin Danestarr
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:32:00 -
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Consider this, the hp of a tier 2 bc is about what a tier 1 is and the mission npc's are at the same hp....
So in essence, a bc should, in theory, be able to do all lvl 3's now. "Imagination is the key that unlocks the door." - ME |

Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Orrin Danestarr Consider this, the hp of a tier 2 bc is about what a tier 1 is and the mission npc's are at the same hp....
what?!?!? 
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Wild Rho
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 01/12/2006 15:05:14 After flying the Harbringer with a few experimental setups I have to conclude that its name is totally inappropriate.
It should be called the HardonBringer.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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Mennox
Amarr New Triad
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho After flying the Harbringer with a few experimental setups I have to conclude that it's name is totally inappropriate.
It should be called the HardonBringer.
LMFAO!! I love it! may be tempted to buy it 2nite
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Arshes Nei
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Orrin Danestarr Consider this, the hp of a tier 2 bc is about what a tier 1 is and the mission npc's are at the same hp....
So in essence, a bc should, in theory, be able to do all lvl 3's now.
What the ... Dark-Rising |

Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:10:00 -
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considering im -5 atm, attempting to bring it down, im gonna wait for the market prices to get to 40mill. then i'll buy one..... im cheap 
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Ambre Blanche
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2006.12.01 16:06:00 -
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I was able to do ALL level 3 missions in my Prophecy (including Massive Attack and the Spy Tash) BEFORE this BC was upgraded by Revelations.
So it's just a pb of skills (I have about 11 millions SP).
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Luskin
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Posted - 2006.12.01 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn considering im -5 atm, attempting to bring it down, im gonna wait for the market prices to get to 40mill. then i'll buy one..... im cheap 
Surely if you plan to NPC in it, you'd more than make up the 10mil isk difference if you purchased one now and got to NPCing..?
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.01 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Luskin
Originally by: Commander Thrawn considering im -5 atm, attempting to bring it down, im gonna wait for the market prices to get to 40mill. then i'll buy one..... im cheap 
Surely if you plan to NPC in it, you'd more than make up the 10mil isk difference if you purchased one now and got to NPCing..?
i don't recall saying anything about npcing. its got a rof bonus, the proph is much better at npcing. im gonna use this for pvp.
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Scordite
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Posted - 2006.12.01 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ambre Blanche I was able to do ALL level 3 missions in my Prophecy (including Massive Attack and the Spy Tash) BEFORE this BC was upgraded by Revelations.
So it's just a pb of skills (I have about 11 millions SP).
I was able to do all lvl 3s in the proph with about 5.5mill in combat and fitting related skills, with very rare warp-outs. Heavy pulses + heavy launcher, ab, web, cap recharger, mar, 3x active hardeners, 1x eanm, cap relay. Could have been faster with a dmg mod, but that would have meant warpout more often on the hard missions I think.
Originally by: Commander Thrawn i don't recall saying anything about npcing. its got a rof bonus, the proph is much better at npcing. im gonna use this for pvp.
It has damage bonus listed in ship info. Probably changed to go along with abaddon change.
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Borasao
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Posted - 2006.12.01 17:14:00 -
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Quote: So in essence, a bc should, in theory, be able to do all lvl 3's now.
Now? I was doing *all* L3s in a BC without warping out with less than 3m SP six months ago... there's no "in theory" about it. BCs are even stronger/better now and the NPCs aren't...
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 17:39:00 -
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Both the Prophecy and the Harbringer are excellent ships. I can speak for the Prophecy from personal experience and I fought a Harbringer the other night. It was doing very good damage despite my omni-tank.
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