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Trii Seo
Executive Outcomes
799
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:26:03 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: A little humility would also serve you well.
Rather, silence would suit one who carries the blood of a fallen race in her veins and the marks of their sins on her face. If such a lesser servant spoke of a True Amarr Holder of the merest parcel of land and slaves in such tones, I would have them shot. For speaking thus of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, I would have them impaled and flayed while their life's blood ebbed from their miserable body. This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
Hey look, Empire's lap dogs are here to mingle with us!
You know, you treat your own loyalists in such a nice way that we might never need to come up with a devious, barbaric and obviously brutal way to amuse ourselves with your demise. Just... throw you into a room and hand the nearest person you annoyed a knife.
Preferably dull.
The king is dead, long live the king!
Glory to Maximilian Singularity the Sixth, First of his Name!
Proud pilot of the Imperium
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7340
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:28:31 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:
This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
Royal Commodore Nomarya, an apology for the boldness, but a question from an outsider: is not the ideal of the Faith uplift? Isn't one doing service to god, who is not a slave, thus worthy of respect?
I suppose I answer this question myself, when I consider the preeminence placed on the True Amarr, whatever acts of devotion are done by others.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Kontrahage
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
99
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:29:45 -
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Max Singularity wrote:KOS is not WAR... KOS is simply NBSI as administered now.
You are red, you are engaged where ever possible. That is a state of war. Why do we not co to your territory to attack? You may ask. The answer is simple. We cannot be everywhere at once and while CVA is occupied with Operation Deliverance and PIE with the war against the rebels, you will have to wait.
Max Singularity wrote: I see NRDS as something more, something higher, something that "help is coming".
I know all about 'OUR' KOS... yes that's right I said "our" as in ours, yours and mine.
The difference being that everybody is by default on your KOS list while to get on ours one has to commit a crime. Also what help did you lend to those people in Domain when you murdered them?
Max Singularity wrote: I was a protector of Providence. As a resident member of Volt I protected the GATEWAY ENTRY system. We spent thousands of ships, no less crews and I witnessed first hand CVA's "no help is coming".
I thought you didn't care about the deaths of baseline crews.
I am still an Ambassador of Providence and you have no idea how I am functioning as a Protector yet... However, personal attacks against me and NOT discussing the matter at hand is doing much to sway my opinion and a dangerous diplomatic tact with one that has such say.
Are you a sanctioned, official, chain of command diplomat of CVA willing to negate mercies in place? [/quote]
I am not a sanctioned diplomat and you are as much an ambassador of Providence as I am Tibus Heth's twin. I responded to your outrageous claims of having CVA support and for what I have said I need no official mission for it is obvious: You are an enemy of the empire and will be opposed wherever, whenever and whatever the cost.
What other matters are the to discuss? That you don't think the empress is god's true chosen? - Not your decision to make. Different things the empress has failed at in your eyes? - Not your place to decide.
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Auris Black
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
1
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:33:17 -
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It is such a shame to see one of matari blood treated in such a fashion, a skilled and noble fighter belittled by those whom she protects? These actions are abominable. |
Quin Mansa
Mamelik Hurusiyyad
51
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:34:59 -
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A moving confession, Lord Vitellius. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and insight. |
Trii Seo
Executive Outcomes
802
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:42:21 -
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Kontrahage wrote: The difference being that everybody is by default on your KOS list while to get on ours one has to commit a crime.
You know, since you're bringing up the law...
...crossing the border of the Imperium without proper authorization - most of the time in the form of "blue" status - is actually illegal. For safety of the citizens of the Imperium, trespassing is considered an offense and those who commit it are to be shot on sight.
Dura lex, sed lex as the old saying goes.
And seconding Arrendis, you guys don't really do that "Unity" thing too well do you...
The king is dead, long live the king!
Glory to Maximilian Singularity the Sixth, First of his Name!
Proud pilot of the Imperium
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
512
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:54:27 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:I would strongly advise that Amarrians with more mouth than sense (and that descriptor applies to at least a small majority of Imperials on the IGS) never push her to the point where she might find it relevant to question those beliefs.
I strongly suspect you wouldn't like what happened next.
But I suspect I would. Lt. Kernher's public records show her to be a capable pilot, and her statements here demonstrate a clear capacity for well-thought-out, reasoned problem-solving and diplomacy. She would be an asset to any organization she chose to join.
We make no claims of perfection to rival those of the Amarr, we who dwell beyond CONCORD's reach, but I daresay we recognize a failure to appreciate talent when we see it.
Auris Black wrote:It is such a shame to see one of matari blood treated in such a fashion, a skilled and noble fighter belittled by those whom she protects? These actions are abominable.
Abominable, yes. Surprising... unfortunately not.
Kontrahage wrote:I am not a sanctioned diplomat and you are as much an ambassador of Providence as I am Tibus Heth's twin.
I thought you looked familiar. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
182
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:05:56 -
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When the enslaved finds freedom and lose faith, it tends to get rather... spectacular. Especially when the faith is as entrenched as it is in Little Kin's case. For her sake, I hope that doesn't happen. It's remarkably unpleasant, even if it would prove highly beneficial. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
960
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:12:35 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:
Rather, silence would suit one who carries the blood of a fallen race in her veins and the marks of their sins on her face.
If such a lesser servant spoke of a True Amarr Holder of the merest parcel of land and slaves in such tones, I would have them shot. For speaking thus of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, I would have them impaled and flayed while their life's blood ebbed from their miserable body.
This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
I assure you that will not be necessary. Harsh words between friends and allies are sometimes exchanged, but we remain friends despite them. I will be hopeful that this is one of those cases. The matter will be sorted. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
694
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:23:35 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: A little humility would also serve you well.
Rather, silence would suit one who carries the blood of a fallen race in her veins and the marks of their sins on her face. If such a lesser servant spoke of a True Amarr Holder of the merest parcel of land and slaves in such tones, I would have them shot. For speaking thus of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, I would have them impaled and flayed while their life's blood ebbed from their miserable body. This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path. Commodore Nomarya
Your depictive suggestions serve as inspiration and command to those blessed enough to call themselves humble subjects of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, and a stern warning to all those who dare to defy and insult His Majesty in words and deeds (even if they might call him by his honorary title of Lord Councillor).
Unfortunately, gross defamations like the prematurely freed Kernher enjoys to entertain are not singular incidents. There are elements in the Empire that pride themselves in continuously insulting the institutions of our Kingdom and our King. It will need many poles and hooks to reply.
Long live the King! and may Grace be with you! Odelya dGÇÖHanguest, Begum etc. pp. |
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Anslo
Scope Works
32056
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:24:29 -
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One way to settle this.
Jello match. One Amarr rep. One Khanid rep. Winner take all.
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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
694
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:25:07 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:I assure you that will not be necessary. Harsh words between friends and allies are sometimes exchanged, but we remain friends despite them. I will be hopeful that this is one of those cases. The matter will be sorted. Shutaq, I heard these words before. I have come to understand their unidirectionality.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
514
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:25:37 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:When the enslaved finds freedom and lose faith, it tends to get rather... spectacular. Especially when the faith is as entrenched as it is in Little Kin's case. For her sake, I hope that doesn't happen. It's remarkably unpleasant, even if it would prove highly beneficial.
It could be helped, though. If she comes to it not as a result of being pushed to the breaking point, but rather the natural progress of self-discovery and exploration of the universe within and without, having some among the Tribes who are willing to offer welcome and support, rather than simply channel her energies against their own enemies...
She would remain herself, as do we all. She would simply need time and room to realize that who she is has never been dependent on others or their words, but only on her responses to them. One whose nature compels them to serve a cause greater than themselves, to put the needs of those they see as 'their people' ahead of their own needs? That is not at all unknown among us, eh?
If that time comes, she is Matari. She will endure, as we have endured. And she will come out the other side stronger for it. But even a little guidance can make the suffering along the way more bearable. A hardship, not a trauma. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
961
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:38:46 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Shutaq, I heard these words before. I have come to understand their unidirectionality.
And it is well known that your understandings are to be disregarded. You may be smug now, but your hot-headed separatist drivel is an impediment to the interests of both the Empire and the Kingdom you claim to serve and adore. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
184
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:42:43 -
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She knows - even if she does not currently trust - that I consider her closer kin than those in the Republic. Same upbringing, same blood, different lives leading to polar opposite sides in an ancient war. She knows - even if she does not currently trust - that she would not be the first to learn how to stand and walk on her own, or that there is help to be found until balance is learned. Or taught.
She is as welcome at Deck23 as any other Minmatar, whether she is Matari or not.
I have little interest in pushing her further. That path leads to unnecessary pain. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
469
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:50:49 -
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Arrendis wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:When the enslaved finds freedom and lose faith, it tends to get rather... spectacular. Especially when the faith is as entrenched as it is in Little Kin's case. For her sake, I hope that doesn't happen. It's remarkably unpleasant, even if it would prove highly beneficial. It could be helped, though. If she comes to it not as a result of being pushed to the breaking point, but rather the natural progress of self-discovery and exploration of the universe within and without, having some among the Tribes who are willing to offer welcome and support, rather than simply channel her energies against their own enemies... She would remain herself, as do we all. She would simply need time and room to realize that who she is has never been dependent on others or their words, but only on her responses to them. One whose nature compels them to serve a cause greater than themselves, to put the needs of those they see as 'their people' ahead of their own needs? That is not at all unknown among us, eh? If that time comes, she is Matari. She will endure, as we have endured. And she will come out the other side stronger for it. But even a little guidance can make the suffering along the way more bearable. A hardship, not a trauma.
Yes it could be helped but she would need to want the help, which she clearly doesn't. She has her own path she chooses to follow, just as you, Mizhara and myself have our own paths. Until she realizes on her own what is right there really is no place for any guidance. She can live with her kin looking down upon her, the guilt she seems to hide or whatever. But when and if that time comes where she realizes the errors in her ways she will seek guidance on her own, and for her sake hopefully someone answers her cries. In the end its her own path she follows and she very well can do it on her own. Really I hope for her sake the destination is worth the struggle. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
524
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:10:14 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote: I have little interest in pushing her further. That path leads to unnecessary pain.
Agreed. And so long as she knows, then she is lucky indeed.
Deitra Vess wrote:She can live with her kin looking down upon her, the guilt she seems to hide or whatever.
I have no reason to look down on her. She endures.
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Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
183
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:17:22 -
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It seems Samira has run into a spot of trouble with the authorities, is it at this point I'm supposed to launch vindictive insults at her about my superiority whilst languishing in her supposed upcoming doom. perhaps I should ask Aldrith as he's PIE resident expert on that matter.
In the mean time I would ask her to refrain from insulting those who past transgressions have been forgiven by the Empress. It would not be wise even for PIE to take on the entire Khanid Navy
Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
962
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:33:19 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Perhaps I should ask Aldrith as he's PIE resident expert on that matter. I would be more than happy to discuss such matter with you, my lord, but it would be a conversation best held in private. It would offer us the opportunity to be as candid as we would like. |
Cydonia Meridian
Absolute Massive Destruction Massive Erectile Dysfunction
15
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:40:05 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote: This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
Andreus Ixiris wrote: I strongly suspect you wouldn't like what happened next.
Anslo wrote:It'd involve guns. Lots of guns. Guns you aren't escaping.
Auris Black wrote:It is such a shame to see one of matari blood treated in such a fashion, a skilled and noble fighter belittled by those whom she protects? These actions are abominable.
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:...it tends to get rather... spectacular. Especially when the faith is as entrenched as it is in Little Kin's case. For her sake, I hope that doesn't happen. It's remarkably unpleasant....
Why all the cloak and daggers? What's with the threats of conflict? Why do you fear a fight so much?
You are Capsuleers!
She should be praying that she does get a chance to cross your path. He should appreciate what happens next, win or lose. Wonderful! Belittled? Since when is a challenge to a duel belittling?
We should all hope this does happen. And then one experiences the Deathless Death, and wakes up to continue on.
I am repeatedly baffled why you all argue so much about who can 'beat up' whom, how you threaten each other with fights, and why everyone should be so afraid of that. You lose nothing, and have only honor to gain from such a confrontation. |
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
470
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:42:10 -
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Arrendis wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:She can live with her kin looking down upon her, the guilt she seems to hide or whatever. I have no reason to look down on her. She endures.
When it comes down to it, nor do I. However the Republic has a population of over 9.5 trillion, do you think there aren't some who feel so?
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Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
371
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:44:18 -
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Battleships, all of it. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
696
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:50:29 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:It seems Samira has run into a spot of trouble with the authorities, is it at this point I'm supposed to launch vindictive insults at her about my superiority whilst languishing in her supposed upcoming doom. perhaps I should ask Aldrith as he's PIE resident expert on that matter.
In the mean time I would ask her to refrain from insulting those who past transgressions have been forgiven by the Empress. It would not be wise even for PIE to take on the entire Khanid Navy Maybe it is time to admit that PAUX has been a catastrophic success: While enabling the lesser races to glorify His name, and through servitude and obedience, experience hope for their own salvation, PAUX has enabled its members to act in completed disregard and perversion of our faithGÇÖs principles. Where freed slaves claim authority over the most faithful sovereigns, claim to speak with His word and be authorities on the Scriptures, the naturalGÇöGod givenGÇöorder of society is falling apart. The result is confusion and anarchy of minds, leading the faithful to dark and insidious parts, playing God themselves. In doing so PAUX was quite a success. Albeit a catastrophic one. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
527
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Posted - 2015.07.21 19:00:45 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Arrendis wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:She can live with her kin looking down upon her, the guilt she seems to hide or whatever. I have no reason to look down on her. She endures. When it comes down to it, nor do I. However the Republic has a population of over 9.5 trillion, do you think there aren't some who feel so?
There are doubtless many who would, but I doubt most of them have ever heard of her. And so far as I can see, the only ones here who do... are not of the Tribes. So let us pay no more heed to their degeneration than she does. But if she wishes it... I am happy to supply the assistance of my engineering and tender ships. |
Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.07.21 19:57:14 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:It seems Samira has run into a spot of trouble with the authorities, is it at this point I'm supposed to launch vindictive insults at her about my superiority whilst languishing in her supposed upcoming doom. perhaps I should ask Aldrith as he's PIE resident expert on that matter.
In the mean time I would ask her to refrain from insulting those who past transgressions have been forgiven by the Empress. It would not be wise even for PIE to take on the entire Khanid Navy Maybe it is time to admit that PAUX has been a catastrophic success: While enabling the lesser races to glorify His name, and through servitude and obedience, experience hope for their own salvation, PAUX has enabled its members to act in completed disregard and perversion of our faithGÇÖs principles. Where freed slaves claim authority over the most faithful sovereigns, claim to speak with His word and be authorities on the Scriptures, the naturalGÇöGod givenGÇöorder of society is falling apart. The result is confusion and anarchy of minds, leading the faithful to dark and insidious parts, playing God themselves. In doing so PAUX was quite a success. Albeit a catastrophic one.
Are you trying to say something...I fear all I read is babble
Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
488
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:09:31 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Maybe it is time to admit that PAUX has been a catastrophic success:
It has, it's half the reason I joined.
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:While enabling the lesser races to glorify His name, and through servitude and obedience, experience hope for their own salvation, PAUX has enabled its members to act in completed disregard and perversion of our faithGÇÖs principles.
As far as I can see, Lt Kernher has done nothing but quote word for word, the Scripture and Amarr law in every one of her debates. She takes a strict orthodox view of the faith, and shows a sometimes frustrating lack of willing to adapt in a lot of areas, but to her credit. You, on the other hand, declared for the Tetrimonic ideals. Remind me, what did the Theology Council say about that little affair? One shouldn't declare perversion when they follow an Order declared as such.
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Where freed slaves claim authority over the most faithful sovereigns, claim to speak with His word and be authorities on the Scriptures, the naturalGÇöGod givenGÇöorder of society is falling apart.
I'm sorry but... Where exactly did Lt Kernher say she was better then any recognised Lord, Heir or King. Certainatly, she may have insulted some, denounced others (considering these are Maxillian and a certain Tetrimon rabid 'Lord' called Slaver Filth) she has never once claimed to be True Amarr, a Holder, or be any more then I. A reclaimed commoner, which she is entitled to be by grace of her emancipation.
As for authority on the Scriptures, well. She's rather good at pulling up the exact quote needed at the exact time. Again, my memory seems to fail. Where precisely did she claim to be an authority though? All I've ever seen is her reciting them, and stating it is to the Theology Council we all turn for guidance on the Scripture.
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:The result is confusion and anarchy of minds, leading the faithful to dark and insidious parts, playing God themselves. In doing so PAUX was quite a success. Albeit a catastrophic one.
How about that Theology Council ruling on Tetrimon, eh?
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Alizebeth Amalath
Sanctus Amarria
75
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:15:35 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:
Rather, silence would suit one who carries the blood of a fallen race in her veins and the marks of their sins on her face.
If such a lesser servant spoke of a True Amarr Holder of the merest parcel of land and slaves in such tones, I would have them shot. For speaking thus of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, I would have them impaled and flayed while their life's blood ebbed from their miserable body.
This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
Well, if everyone that did carry the blood of a fallen race in their veins was silent, the IGS would be rather dull wouldn't it? While I am sure that we True Amarr would have a wonderful time, it would probably be a little bland. Luckily, we True Amarr have been called by God to reclaim all the fallen races and show them the path of righteousness. Why, sometimes, we even let these fallen races become flag officers in the navy!
I am sure Samira Kerner will be spoken to, but one can hardly blame her. After all, she did grow up being taught that your king was a heretic. For that matter, so did I. Sometimes I still need to remind myself that the Kingdom en mass is no longer heretical, but that our Majesty, in her Divinely Inspired mercy and justice has welcomed you back into the fold of the faithful. Well, mostly back. The Theology Council chambers are still off limits.
I look forward to the days where the feelings of division and bitterness that marked the Imperial/Khanid relations are gone and we embrace each other as brother and sister. However, that will take time and a good amount of effort. Until then, these kinds of things are bound to crop up. Hopefully, your feathers are not ruffled too much and an apology with contrition will sort this out. |
Anslo
Scope Works
32058
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:17:17 -
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Cydonia Meridian wrote:Stuff. .....What.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5349
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:45:24 -
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Arraz Nomarya wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: A little humility would also serve you well.
Rather, silence would suit one who carries the blood of a fallen race in her veins and the marks of their sins on her face. If such a lesser servant spoke of a True Amarr Holder of the merest parcel of land and slaves in such tones, I would have them shot. For speaking thus of His Majesty Khanid II, Holder of Khanid, Lord of the Marches, I would have them impaled and flayed while their life's blood ebbed from their miserable body. This lesser had best pray with her betters that she never crosses my path.
Seriously? I'd back Samira Kernher over you any day of the week, Nomarya.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5349
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:46:21 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Maybe it is time to admit that PAUX has been a catastrophic success
Best kind of success.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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