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Arel Menor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.26 19:29:50 -
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Hey all, I'm having some issues with trying to get my Ice Mining cycle under 30s with a fully skilled and implanted Orca. I'm also using what I think is a fully skilled Skiff.
Skiff Fit:
Ice Harvester II
Survey Scanner II *some shield modules*
Ice Harvester Upgrade II x3
Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Inherent Implants 'Yeti' Ice Harvesting IH-1003
I'm not sure what else to use, I know the 1005 gives you 5% but I'd be gaining 2% so I don't think that's the issue.
Thanks for reading and hope someone can help me out. o7
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Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.26 20:30:30 -
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Since you have a Orca, starting to use proper fleet mining ships aka Covetor/Hulk ? Skiff is definitely not the best out there for yield.
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Arel Menor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.26 20:40:51 -
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Yes that's true, but the Skiff has a reduced cycle for ice harvesters, I know people that are mining under a 27s cycle and I'd like that too. I'm just trying to find out how :). |
Avi Shekelstien
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.26 21:28:57 -
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What system are you in? Me and some friends could swing by and help out. |
Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.26 22:41:00 -
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It's true the Skiff has a role bonus to ice harvester, but it's only to compensate for the single ice harvester she has. You surely noticed that the mackinaw has a smaller similar role bonus (because 2 mining turrets) and the Hulk doesn't have a role bonus, but with his 3 turrets plus the 3%*5 + 4% *4/5 bonus to ice harvester cycle, the Hulk definitely has a better yield with ice harvester upgrades compared to the Skiff or Mackinaw.
EDIT : I you know about a fitting application like PyFa or https://o.smium.org , you'll see that a skiff alone with 1 ice harvester II and 3 ice harvester upgrades II with exhumer at V gives a yield of 25 m3/s with your configuration, and with a similar one applied to the Hulk, you have a yield of 32.2 m3/s
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Arel Menor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.26 23:04:06 -
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Okay I will try out two of the other ships :) but what I'm troubled with is why are my friends orca skills able to get under 27s and my orca skills can only carry my skiff to 30s :(:( |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
116
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Posted - 2015.07.27 09:53:19 -
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Check everything again. Do you have T2 harvesters & lowslot upgrades. There's also an Ice mining rig. Check the orca booster skills. |
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
184
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Posted - 2015.07.28 09:19:37 -
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Arel Menor wrote:Hey all, I'm having some issues with trying to get my Ice Mining cycle under 30s with a fully skilled and implanted Orca. I'm also using what I think is a fully skilled Skiff.
Skiff Fit:
Ice Harvester II
Survey Scanner II *some shield modules*
Ice Harvester Upgrade II x3
Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Inherent Implants 'Yeti' Ice Harvesting IH-1003
I'm not sure what else to use, I know the 1005 gives you 5% but I'd be gaining 2% so I don't think that's the issue.
Thanks for reading and hope someone can help me out. o7
Every percentage point counts so I would recommend investing in the 1005 vs the 1003 if ice mining is something you find fun doing. I would also strongly advise putting a DC II in one of your low slots. Make sure your "shield modules" are covering kinetic & thermal and if there is spare rig capacity fit a rig to increase shield points.
Ice fields are like gank magnets so if you are one of the strongest defended ships you won't get bothered. Although the majority of suicide ganking is targeted towards haulers, capsules, shuttles, and pimped mission ships nowadays. |
Do Little
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2015.08.03 21:57:44 -
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Do you have Exhumers 5? there is a hull bonus of 2% reduction in ice harvester duration per level.
Unless you want to be the preferred target when CODE visits your ice field (and they will - there aren't that many of them) you will fly a Skiff and tank it properly. That means sacrificing some yield to fit a DCU2. Your Orca should also fit a Shield Harmonizing Link 2 in the 3rd high slot. |
Jasmine Cheryu
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.06 01:26:44 -
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Do Little wrote:Do you have Exhumers 5? there is a hull bonus of 2% reduction in ice harvester duration per level.
Unless you want to be the preferred target when CODE visits your ice field (and they will - there aren't that many of them) you will fly a Skiff and tank it properly. That means sacrificing some yield to fit a DCU2. Your Orca should also fit a Shield Harmonizing Link 2 in the 3rd high slot.
This man knows his stuff -is generally impressed- |
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Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.18 06:48:08 -
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Avi Shekelstien wrote:What system are you in? Me and some friends could swing by and help out. Oh ma gawd so clever! |
PecX Ocedei
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.18 18:37:33 -
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Do Little wrote:Do you have Exhumers 5? there is a hull bonus of 2% reduction in ice harvester duration per level.
Unless you want to be the preferred target when CODE visits your ice field (and they will - there aren't that many of them) you will fly a Skiff and tank it properly. That means sacrificing some yield to fit a DCU2. Your Orca should also fit a Shield Harmonizing Link 2 in the 3rd high slot.
This guy right here know where it is at. I never mess with anything but a Skiff. They are really the only Exhumer worth my time. |
Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 18:21:02 -
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Basically, you need orca support. They cut down your cycles by a huge amount (depending on skill). My noob miner in a procurer could mine at 55.3 seconds per cycle without orca support - With orca support it was 32 seconds flat per cycle. No implants either because who needs em? |
mup Deninard
mupcorp
10
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Posted - 2015.09.20 16:02:45 -
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Max orca, max skills and all the gear you had and the 5% implant will give you about 25.6 ish cycle time. Max yield skiffs are rarely killed unless warden. |
GODS H4ND
Evedustry Inc. SONS of BANE
8
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Posted - 2015.09.20 17:33:30 -
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Skiff or hulk. Mack isn't really worth it because vs the skiff it mines the same amount.
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.09.22 09:52:44 -
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The mackinaw is worth it as a gank magnet. If there's a mackinaw in the belt, there's no way the ganker will mess with your skiff.
It lets you go a lot longer without dumping your cargo on a station, but it requires you to pay very careful attention to your surroundings. To keep from gouging your eyes out from boredom, bring friends to talk to.
A signature :o
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Just Stimy
The Minutemen The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 18:16:20 -
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Arel Menor wrote:Hey all, I'm having some issues with trying to get my Ice Mining cycle under 30s with a fully skilled and implanted Orca. I'm also using what I think is a fully skilled Skiff.
Skiff Fit:
Ice Harvester II
Survey Scanner II *some shield modules*
Ice Harvester Upgrade II x3
Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Inherent Implants 'Yeti' Ice Harvesting IH-1003
I'm not sure what else to use, I know the 1005 gives you 5% but I'd be gaining 2% so I don't think that's the issue.
Thanks for reading and hope someone can help me out. o7
Last time I fitted all 3 ships out for ice mining and put my best ice miner in each ship and ran the numbers, the skiff actually mines slightly more ice per hour, as long as you aren't taking into account warp outs for hauling (I use an alt to haul). The skiff also adds tank and protection to its superior hourly yield. This will help you avoid warping out to avoid rats in nullsec, and avoid having to warp out to avoid gankers.
All in all, the skiff is the best ice miner there is, and with my rorqual boosts, I hit a 23.5second cycle time. I'll take me 3+ cycles before the hulk gets its 3 cycles anyday of the week.
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Lisbeth Hancook
Institute of Applied Astrogeology
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Posted - 2015.09.23 14:07:26 -
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Ing Harm did the math
Best is Skiff with Rorqual-boost @22,13s/cycle |
GODS H4ND
Evedustry Inc. SONS of BANE
8
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Posted - 2015.09.23 14:38:14 -
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Lisbeth Hancook wrote:Ing Harm did the mathBest is Skiff with Rorqual-boost @22,13s/cycle
Best cycle time is Skiff, most amount of ice per cycle is Hulk
Skiff with max boosts per hour = 162.71 units Hulk with max boosts per hour = 211.64 units
Hulk brings in about 9 mil an hour more ice (based on current clear icicle prices)
and covetor mines more ice than a proc with max boosts.... |
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