The population of high sec is high because it's a newbie friendly zone, not safe, but newbie friendly

There is also a MASSIVE griefer presence in high sec

Marmite
Persuit Of Happiness
Break-A-Wish
Bad Neighbours
Zero Compliance
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Aborted F

There is literally thousands of griefers in high sec whose sole intention is to kill as many new players as possible to get killboard results.

Now with high sec as it is, null sec dead EXCEPT for high desnity station systems and lets face it, low sec is dead as hell except for a few FW systems.

No, this war dec mechanic needs to stop.

Hello

Now before you all go off at me for being a "noob" and "getting ganked" - I have never been ganked in a barge, i have not been killed in empire except when fighting war targets. I am posting this for the benefit of bringing new players into EvE.

What's wrong with multiple war decs?

In short, a lot, but, this has a direct effect on Null Sec & Low Sec, to claim it doesn't is the height of stupidity, why go to null to find fights when u can join a high sec griefer alliance that has thousands of war decs and targets in every system, half of which can't fight back? Easy kills, easy money, let's do it! No. This needs to change.

Lol you think it effects Null Sec, You're An Idiot.

I'm afraid not, the direct proof is that Null Sec, is empty, we roam in there all the time and in low sec, the areas of the game are dead, because what's the point in risking ships in "actual pvp fights" with other pilots who are trying just as hard to kill you, when you can blow up faction fit newish player mission ships n make billions?

So what do u suggest?

I suggest that corporations and alliances are limited to 5 war decs available.

This in effect means that large alliances cannot turn high sec into there own personal Null Sec, it means they have to go to Null Sec to get a target rich environment. It would also mean less combat in market hubs and less strain on the servers.

So to the point i recommend thus:@

Each corporation and alliance has a 5 war dec limit. This means they can ONLY declare 5 wars at any one time.

Each corporation and alliance can only be declared war upon, 3 times. This prevents things like i.e Goonswarm being perma decked by every large griefer alliance in the game.

For a corporation to declare war, they must have no fewer than 7 active members i.e 7 numbers. This would stop the alts of people who just like to **** mining corps off.

This would in effect make "mercs" an actual play style as they would have to get out of hubs and look for their targets. I.e what real mercs do.

These changes would force so called high sec griefer "pvp pilots" out of high sec and into low/null and would enhance that side of the game. You can see my personal killboard and know i PvP in low/null. So this is not me whining. We have a low sec HQ and if people are stupid enuff to get caught by war targets, that's there issue. I am a PvP pilot, i do "real" PvP, not high sec griefing. Bottom line is, this needs to stop

I am just tired of new corps being slammed into the floor by griefer alliances and corps. It needs to stop and CCP need to do summit about it.

High-sec Missioners, Incursioners, Traders, Miners, Industrialists
Look, gankers and deccers are in HS for those people or for 0.0/Low-sec people who don't use alts for logistics

I am just tired of new corps being slammed into the floor by griefer alliances and corps. It needs to stop and CCP need to do summit about it.

I feel that such a system would eliminate the feeling of helplessness and lack of control many hisec corps cite as reasons for disliking wardec mechanics.

The population of high sec is high because it's a newbie friendly zone, not safe, but newbie friendly

There is also a MASSIVE griefer presence in high sec

Marmite
Persuit Of Happiness
Break-A-Wish
Bad Neighbours
Zero Compliance
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Aborted F

There is literally thousands of griefers in high sec whose sole intention is to kill as many new players as possible to get killboard results.

Now with high sec as it is, null sec dead EXCEPT for high desnity station systems and lets face it, low sec is dead as hell except for a few FW systems.

No, this war dec mechanic needs to stop.

The population of high sec is high because it's a newbie friendly zone, not safe, but newbie friendly

There is also a MASSIVE griefer presence in high sec

Marmite
Persuit Of Happiness
Break-A-Wish
Bad Neighbours
Zero Compliance
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Aborted F

There is literally thousands of griefers in high sec whose sole intention is to kill as many new players as possible to get killboard results.

Now with high sec as it is, null sec dead EXCEPT for high desnity station systems and lets face it, low sec is dead as hell except for a few FW systems.

No, this war dec mechanic needs to stop.

Woa woa hold on there cowboy.


I thought Guardians of the Galaxy were an FW corp? So just by simplely wardecing you become a griefer?

Also really Zero Compliance?

Gankers are now griefers to. It no longer pertained to just wardecs. YAY! It's now another Nerf Highsec thread.

Aborted F is a two man/onemainonealt corp, how is "HEY YOU 30 TWATS OVER THERE! COME ERE AND FITE MEH" considered griefing to you?

BAW and POH are gentlemen and scholars, Sir. Bad Company has some pretty okay dudes in it, I suppose. I wouldn't know honestly I just assume the best of people. Unlike you...apparently.


Im also a little miffed you did add my corp to the list. >.>


EDIT: Like really, Alliance name is We Didn't Mean It, we war dec. And our Alliance ticker is WEDID.


DO YOU NOT SEE THE HUMOR.

So just by simplely wardecing you become a griefer?

U know damn well that's not what i am saying.

Right so any corp who war decs in EMPIRE to shoot new players and miners is not griefing?

If you want PvP you go to low sec and null sec and fight against players who are trying equally as u to kill u. That's PvP.

Right so any corp who war decs in EMPIRE to shoot new players and miners is not griefing?

This is your argument?

Ofc they are and to claim otherwise is pure stupidity.

If you want PvP you go to low sec and null sec and fight against players who are trying equally as u to kill u. That's PvP.

Ganking PvE fit ships, barges, freighters, all of it, is griefing, its as simple as that, your not doing it for the ISK, your doing it to get a decent killboard.

I.e PvP against those who don't want to PvP. It's as simple as that

No argument u make against it will change the fact of what it is, war decking mining and mission corps is not pvp, its not fun for them, its griefing, the amount of new players i have seen quit, is astounding.

Don't try to justify griefing as legal game play, because whilst it may be, it doesn't stop the fact it's disgusting behaviour and it causing a direct effect on null and low sec because new players do not stick around long enuff to go the full haul.

And you bloody well know it

Yeh so abscially what ur saying is tough ****, if i want to kill u n drive u out the game because u have no SP to defend urself

screw u n screw ccp

well done

GROW UP

This would only become griefing if it was targeted at individual players, if the deccing corp followed you from corp to corp deccing each one in turn and then ganking you in between whilst you are in NPC corps. Then it would be griefing.

Hilariously, even this is not griefing. You can follow one specific guy around with wars all you want, and the GMs will just tell him to drop an NPC corp if he doesn't like it.

Lol at the very worst you're being driven out of your Corp. Not the game.

If you want to be in a Corp with friends but dont want to be decced, then support the social Corp idea.

Lol at the very worst you're being driven out of your Corp. Not the game.....

Not the point

None of what any of u are saying is the point

the main issues also is new corps cant grow in highsec anymore let alone alliance forming when u get basicly perma wardecced this is also a main reason why eve doesnt get newer players into the game

higher wardec costs for corp and alliance and limits would be mint to have 1-5 max wardecs