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Victor Vicarious
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:38:00 -
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This isn't a rant or a whine, it was a lesson learned and it is information for all organizations in the Eve Community. You cannot trust Goonswarm as an organization or it's individuals. They will scam you for your isk and they will allow you to think you are blue to them only to pod you. Those of you with NAP's or friendly standings with Goonswarm should be very untrusting of the Goonswarm alliance and all it's members. They may be ripping you off right now and laughing at you on their forums. Do not go into a NAP with this organization, Goonswarm only wants to scam you and stab you in the back. I have learned my lesson the hard way, don't be the next ones to get scammed and laughed at for trusting a NAP with Goonswarm, NAP's and friendship mean nothing to them. The Diplomats from Goonswarm will say anything to you to get your organization to trust them, and their leaders will not honor any deals that you make with their diplomats. They are no better than corp thiefs in my opinion.null
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:39:00 -
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Maybe they are no better than alts too?  
=== It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here] |

Bayleor
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:40:00 -
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My bad, meant to post that on my main. Never had to post about scammers on the forums before.
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Karylia
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:42:00 -
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Woaw ! Another Goon Thread :D |

Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:46:00 -
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WTS TEARS!!! WTS TEARS!!!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:47:00 -
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VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I know you dont like me much.. but both yours and evil thug's posts are hillarious... 
I don't buy this F1, F2, F3.. don't speak english.... lark for a second. 
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:52:00 -
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what? don't trust the goons? who'da thought it!

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Rover Vitesse
Gallente FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:54:00 -
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Ohn0ez !!! did teh goonz scamZor u? They are teh ebil i tell u!!! ebils....
Rovers Chronicles
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Vladimir Tinakin
Caldari Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:56:00 -
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Not really caring about the subject matter of the thread...
But if you're going to levy accusations against someone, backing it up with, y'know, details is usually considered standard practice.
Unless this was intended to go into my subliminal feed and got misfiled. Reminds me; I need to go to that island....
----------------------------------------------- Vice Adm Vladimir Tinakin Logistics CO Hadean Drive Yards |

Nev Clavain
Wise Guys Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Nev Clavain on 04/12/2006 15:00:39
Originally by: Victor Vicarious This isn't a rant or a whine, it was a lesson learned and it is information for all organizations in the Eve Community. You cannot trust Goonswarm as an organization or it's individuals. They will scam you for your isk and they will allow you to think you are blue to them only to pod you. Those of you with NAP's or friendly standings with Goonswarm should be very untrusting of the Goonswarm alliance and all it's members. They may be ripping you off right now and laughing at you on their forums. Do not go into a NAP with this organization, Goonswarm only wants to scam you and stab you in the back. I have learned my lesson the hard way, don't be the next ones to get scammed and laughed at for trusting a NAP with Goonswarm, NAP's and friendship mean nothing to them. The Diplomats from Goonswarm will say anything to you to get your organization to trust them, and their leaders will not honor any deals that you make with their diplomats. They are no better than corp thiefs in my opinion.null
Well, it was the same when they were in Syndicate, at least in my experience as far as standings are concerned. They would tell us we were Blue, and then not set standings and kill our pilots who would specifically check before trying to go through gatecamps.
Solution: Shoot them until they go pop. Then retarget and shoot until they go squish. Balance restored. Ultimately more satisfying also.
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Rowynn
Caldari Lucky Hydra Corp The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:03:00 -
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I think its a very good lesson learned. Like Bayleor said, it wasn't a rant or a whine, if it was I'm sure his post would have been a lot longer and filled with lots of details and drama. It was an interesting (yet somewhat sad) experience to say the least. Fortunately the losses were personal, not corporate or alliance wide, and we will cope with them and move on. Trust will not be given so freely in the future; we had hoped to make friends, be mutually beneficial to one another and have a good time, but such is life. At the end of the day this is a game and the way everyone chooses to play is their business. Guardian Coalition will continue to deal fairly and honestly with all players. I will always ba a ! |

Bayleor
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Bayleor on 04/12/2006 15:05:16
Originally by: Nev Clavain Edited by: Nev Clavain on 04/12/2006 15:00:39
Originally by: Victor Vicarious This isn't a rant or a whine, it was a lesson learned and it is information for all organizations in the Eve Community. You cannot trust Goonswarm as an organization or it's individuals. They will scam you for your isk and they will allow you to think you are blue to them only to pod you. Those of you with NAP's or friendly standings with Goonswarm should be very untrusting of the Goonswarm alliance and all it's members. They may be ripping you off right now and laughing at you on their forums. Do not go into a NAP with this organization, Goonswarm only wants to scam you and stab you in the back. I have learned my lesson the hard way, don't be the next ones to get scammed and laughed at for trusting a NAP with Goonswarm, NAP's and friendship mean nothing to them. The Diplomats from Goonswarm will say anything to you to get your organization to trust them, and their leaders will not honor any deals that you make with their diplomats. They are no better than corp thiefs in my opinion.null
Well, it was the same when they were in Syndicate, at least in my experience as far as standings are concerned. They would tell us we were Blue, and then not set standings and kill our pilots who would specifically check before trying to go through gatecamps.
Solution: Shoot them until they go pop. Then retarget and shoot until they go squish. Balance restored. Ultimately more satisfying also.
Yep, that is pretty much what happened.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:20:00 -
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goon are a great bunch of guys imo , very polite and profesional 
not the bunch of 13yr old retards people would like to believe they are, if they shot you i bet there was good reason for it ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

Beyond Horizon
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vicarious This isn't a rant or a whine, it was a lesson learned and it is information for all organizations in the Eve Community. You cannot trust Goonswarm as an organization or it's individuals. They will scam you for your isk and they will allow you to think you are blue to them only to pod you. Those of you with NAP's or friendly standings with Goonswarm should be very untrusting of the Goonswarm alliance and all it's members. They may be ripping you off right now and laughing at you on their forums. Do not go into a NAP with this organization, Goonswarm only wants to scam you and stab you in the back. I have learned my lesson the hard way, don't be the next ones to get scammed and laughed at for trusting a NAP with Goonswarm, NAP's and friendship mean nothing to them. The Diplomats from Goonswarm will say anything to you to get your organization to trust them, and their leaders will not honor any deals that you make with their diplomats. They are no better than corp thiefs in my opinion.null
Oh my! I should watch my back... NOT!
- BH |

Kriger
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I know you dont like me much.. but both yours and evil thug's posts are hillarious... 
I don't buy this F1, F2, F3.. don't speak english.... lark for a second. 
never underestimate their uberness at keeping the forum standards as low as possible ;) i have yet to see a constructive comment from either.. im sure the day it happens some cataclysmic event will strike the planet and we will all die horrible agonizing deaths..
.:: Kriger's gfx Factory ::. |

arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:39:00 -
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Goons made me watch as they raped and killed my family. -----------------
http://www.eve-provenance.com |

Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:50:00 -
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^^ Keyser Sose?
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Rowynn
Caldari Lucky Hydra Corp The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I know you dont like me much.. but both yours and evil thug's posts are hillarious... 
I don't buy this F1, F2, F3.. don't speak english.... lark for a second. 
never underestimate their uberness at keeping the forum standards as low as possible ;) i have yet to see a constructive comment from either.. im sure the day it happens some cataclysmic event will strike the planet and we will all die horrible agonizing deaths..
I am totally confused. I obviously don't spend enough time on the forums. :)
Anyways, as far as I'm concerned this matter is now closed in terms of forum discussion. Anyone desiring details can contact me in game. The losses like I said were my personal losses, which the leadership of GS knows about, and should they desire to make reparations that is between them and myself. If not then that is between them and myself also.
That being said I only talk like this when I've had too much coffee to drink. I'm in this for a good time, not to harrass anyone or drive everyone nuts. On that note, I'm going to go drink more coffee and pretend to work. :) I will always ba a ! |

Royaldo
Old Farts The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega WTS TEARS!!! WTS TEARS!!!
im having a very hard hangover right now.. angst, headache.. but this made me laugh my ass off.
pure comedy gold
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: arkarsk Goons made me watch as they raped and killed my family.
O_o
=== It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here] |

Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Feelgood on 04/12/2006 15:56:03
Originally by: arkarsk Goons made me watch as they raped and killed my family.
Goons watched when they made me *****and kill my family.
edit: aparently raped isn't filtered but if you remove the d it is
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:21:00 -
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I thought goonies were nice guys... NOT.
ps. NAP doesn't mean anything tbh. It just means they won't shoot you... for the time being ------------------------------
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I know you dont like me much.. but both yours and evil thug's posts are hillarious... 
I don't buy this F1, F2, F3.. don't speak english.... lark for a second. 
never underestimate their uberness at keeping the forum standards as low as possible ;) i have yet to see a constructive comment from either.. im sure the day it happens some cataclysmic event will strike the planet and we will all die horrible agonizing deaths..
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDIN' ME!!!
I've made constructive posts!
Not thug!
me!
not thug!
me me me and me!
not thug!
me myself and I!!!
not...
*you have been banned from RAT. corporation - all your e-bay rights have been revoked - go get a job*
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Royaldo
Originally by: Omeega WTS TEARS!!! WTS TEARS!!!
im having a very hard hangover right now.. angst, headache.. but this made me laugh my ass off.
pure comedy gold
yw :)
am here to please you.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I truly hope this aint an LV / V alt.
But the amount of whineage u boys do, black, tea pot and some russian kettle.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Omeega VLV's new stategy - drown the south in a tear-sea!!!
OMG!!! BRING TEH BOATS!!!
I truly hope this aint an LV / V alt.
But the amount of whineage u boys do, black, tea pot and some russian kettle.
AAA never whined.
(appart from that time when hast stole Thug's panties who had to make it look like a Teddybear stealing who finished in a login trap on a supremacy freighter - amen)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Yirra
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui goon are a great bunch of guys imo , very polite and profesional
not the bunch of 13yr old retards people would like to believe they are, if they shot you i bet there was good reason for it
When 30 of them jump into a system and spam FOFOFOFOFOFOFO in local for 5 minutes, well that is something a 13yr old retard would do.
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Rowynn
Caldari Lucky Hydra Corp The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yirra
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui goon are a great bunch of guys imo , very polite and profesional
not the bunch of 13yr old retards people would like to believe they are, if they shot you i bet there was good reason for it
When 30 of them jump into a system and spam FOFOFOFOFOFOFO in local for 5 minutes, well that is something a 13yr old retard would do.
Lol, I always miss the good stuff...hehe.
*goes back to her coffee - its a venti.* I will always ba a ! |

Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:37:00 -
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What's a NAP? *hides a couple husks belonging to FLA, innocently whistling* Total misunderstanding. But NAPs don't last very long. And with goons, "very long" probably means "until you're out of sight this instant" =P ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game! |
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