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Kahar Dex Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 173	Posted - 2015.08.01 07:24:07 - [1] - Quote Two Emergency Detach+¬s lead by Greater Amarria capsuleer forces triumphantly responded to the Drifter invasion of the Amarr Imperial Navy Headquarters at Safizon. The Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA) sent an Imperial Defense force upon intelligence reports of the invasion and deployed within 30 minutes of the initial reports and combined forces with PIE and other loyalists to form a fleet of 80+ strong in primarily a Navy Omen fleet doctrine. The bulk of the Drifter invasion forces were destroyed, whereupon loyalists returned to their safe holdings. A Video Intelligence Uplink Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (PIE) lead a second offense fleet after another wave of 35 Drifter Battleships entered the Safizon system with a fleet of 27 Coercer's fit for guerrilla warfare. Curatores Veritatitis Alliance PIE Inc. (Alliance) Terminal Dogma Order of St. Severian Quantum View Special Unit 17 His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Will Gauss TerminalDogma New Eden Research Coalition 37	Posted - 2015.08.01 07:29:42 - [2] - Quote The Drifter threat is one which threatens the cluster as a whole, which we must all unite against and set aside prior history. New Eden Research Coalition is honored to have been granted the opportunity to participate in this defense of innocents against this threat, and thanks PIE and CVA for their work and sacrifice.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18866	Posted - 2015.08.01 07:36:57 - [3] - Quote Regardless of their purpose, the Drifters caused the needless deaths of many innocents in Safizon, in addition to targeting the Amarr Navy (who seem to have been improving their tactics). Their presence here today was a sign of things yet to come, and I suggest that we all prepare for whatever storm is yet to come. Beyond that, I applaud everyone's efforts; we learned a great deal concerning the Tyrannos's tactics and capabilities today, and successfully repelled the largest Drifter fleet encountered as of yet. Hopefully we will find out more about what happened today as soon as possible. -Uriel "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Lilly Terranova Terranova Holdings 16	Posted - 2015.08.01 07:40:02 - [4] - Quote This victory has come at great cost, both in the form of assets and the lives of loyal citizens of the Empire. Their sacrifice is worthy of memorial, as they gave their lives to drive this new and most dangerous of foes from our borders. Our celebration of Safizon's liberation must be tempered by an understanding of the cost in loyal Amarrian lives, and a renewed dedication in their memory to help to safeguard our Empire's security. Thank you, pilots, who fought on behalf of the Empire, and who came to its aid in opposition to this strange, inscrutable foe. In particular, the pilots Utari Onzo and Aldrith Shutaq, who gave so generously of their time and resources to lead the effort in retaking the system are worthy of the highest praise for their efforts. Dozens of pilots flew under the various commands of those who arranged this effort, and while each of them is worthy of accolade, I could not name them all here. I am sure the other pilots and peoples of the Empire could express far better than I have here the gratitude that you are due for your services. Let this most recent victory remind the Drifters that we will fight, however tenaciously we must, to defend ourselves, our peoples, and our homes. Amarr Victor.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2062	Posted - 2015.08.01 08:43:43 - [5] - Quote Amarr Victor. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 279	Posted - 2015.08.01 09:10:52 - [6] - Quote Will Gauss wrote: The Drifter threat is one which threatens the cluster as a whole, which we must all unite against and set aside prior history. New Eden Research Coalition is honored to have been granted the opportunity to participate in this defense of innocents against this threat, and thanks PIE and CVA for their work and sacrifice. You might want to tell that to the Imperial Navy. It's almost amusing to see them have seizures when we enter their highsec systems, if it wasn't quite so tragic. I fear there'll be no military assistance possible while this is the case. More importantly, during this event I kept asking if civilians, stations or planets were struck and was reassured this was not the case every time. So what innocents were harmed, I wonder?
The Golden Serpent 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 52	Posted - 2015.08.01 09:40:57 - [7] - Quote They did not fire on me. I was not given orders to fire on the Drifters so I did not. I got some great piccies though. I just arrived in Kamela and would like to compose a report and have been given permission to do so by my superiors.
Honorius Vitellius Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 71	Posted - 2015.08.01 09:49:58 - [8] - Quote Again the Empire has turned back an attack from this formidable adversary. I thank the Lord for allowing me to play my part, and I extent my gratitude to those who organized and led this defense. Amarr Victor.
Utari Onzo Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 550	Posted - 2015.08.01 10:10:12 - [9] - Quote I would like to thank all Pilots and their crews for their great effort in eliminating this threat. I echo the sentiment by Lady Terranova that we must pay due reverance and respect to the countless lives lost in defence against the Drifter menace. My thoughts and prayers are with them regardless of their background and regardless of politics. We must all be united to fight these unnatural foes. God bless, Amarr Victor. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 1481	Posted - 2015.08.01 10:40:03 - [10] - Quote Honorius Vitellius wrote: Again the Empire has turned back an attack from this formidable adversary. I thank the Lord for allowing me to play my part, and I extend my gratitude to those who organized and led this defense. Amarr Victor. Now here's the worry for you folks in Amarr: You actually believe you turned them back. From the reports I have seen the Drifter fleet entered Amarr space, achieved whatever they wanted to and then went relatively passive. I wonder what havoc they could have wreaked if they had continued to pursue an aggressive agenda, or had decided to call in reinforcements as and when they needed to. This strikes me as a scout force testing new tactics and causing disruption in the meantime. Congratulations on your defence of the system but I really think you need to keep perspective on the achievement. It is still worth noting that the Drifters only attacked Amarr Navy forces. This really does come across as a war as far as the Drifters are concerned rather than an all out attack on the Empire as a whole. If the Imperial command and the Empress have any information as to why this would be the case now would be the time to share it I think.
Mogandi GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.08.01 10:47:39 - [11] - Quote Hail Amarr!
Shaikar PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 33	Posted - 2015.08.01 11:19:15 - [12] - Quote Amarr victor. Once more the Empire was assailed by the forces of darkness; once more the faithful stood together and burned the enemy away. And once more CONCORD stood by and did ... nothing.
Synthetic Cultist Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 453	Posted - 2015.08.01 12:04:01 - [13] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: You might want to tell that to the Imperial Navy. It's almost amusing to see them have seizures when we enter their highsec systems, if it wasn't quite so tragic. The Republic Fleet displays Similar levels of Competence.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2150	Posted - 2015.08.01 12:24:27 - [14] - Quote It appears that we are at the front of the battle lines. We must stand strong against this relentless onslaught! Who is to say the other factions could hold the Drifters back if we are to fail? Stand strong! Be determined! Amarr victor! CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Roland Cassidy The Dirty Third 111	Posted - 2015.08.01 12:27:05 - [15] - Quote I would urge non-factional entities to sit up and take notice. These aggressive actions are not likely to stop at just the Amarrian Throne Worlds. These beings are capable and prepared killers, able to arrive at the heart of any empire on a whim and cause untold desolation. I can only worry what would happen had they not turned their Lux upon me but on a colony instead. It is time to put away childish things for this is no game. Misanthropy is something we cannot afford in this perilous time and the enemy knows we are fractured as people, weak individually. They do not understand; however, how strong we are as many.
Kanzero Virtus Crusade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 14	Posted - 2015.08.01 13:04:49 - [16] - Quote Amarr Victor! Purge the "drifters" with holy laser fire.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1433	Posted - 2015.08.01 13:52:20 - [17] - Quote Great to see this overview, I was caught rather off guard when this all came down. Good to see the Amarr & capsuleer forces managed to drive out the Drifters after initial troubles taking them on. Aurora News back online! When stargates glitch: The Peralles mystery
Sinjin Mokk Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration 382	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:25:21 - [18] - Quote It was indeed an honor to once again fly with the pilots of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration and I extend our gratitude to the many pilots of P.I.E., CVA and the countless others who came to the defense of the Empire and the people of Safizon. It was a long, hard fought battle, but in the end, Amarr stood victorious. We of the Kingdom would like to also extend our undying respect, admiration and offer our deepest condolences to the families and friends of the crews of the Imperial Navy Ships that bravely gave their lives engaging the Drifters. Their sacrifice gave the system much needed time to get their planetary and station defenses on-line. Their courage is an example to us all. As I said, it brought me great joy to again fly alongside the loyalists of the Empire in defense against an emergent threat. It reminded me greatly of five years ago, when we flew out against the first incursions of Sansha Kuvakei. And just like five years ago, CONCORD not only did not offer assistance, they actively engaged the defenders for what they thought were infractions of their "laws." Bombs were employed by several as an experimental tactic to rapidly deplete the secondary shields of the Drifters, allowing for other craft to be able to engage them safely. And CONCORD murdered the ships and crews that used this tactic. To them, it didn't matter that Amarr was facing an incursion as potentially deadly as any that Sansha had perpetrated. It did not matter that people were defending the lives of the innocent, and even those who fought solely for ISK, were still saving lives. And CONCORD killed them. Every bomb, every targeting error, CONCORD was there to make sure their laws were obeyed, but did NOTHING to assist their greatest signatory, the Amarr Empire. We've seen them do this five years ago against the Sansha, and they're doing the same thing now. How many more millions of people must die because of their corruption? The Empire has now been attacked twice by the Drifters. Twice we've been able to drive them back. We are on the brink of war, and we Khanid stand with our Imperial cousins. ANY who prey on the lives of the innocent in Khanid will pay a price too terrible to imagine. Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 706	Posted - 2015.08.01 16:43:31 - [19] - Quote Good work. There was a fair amount of combat capabilities' testing done as well, but analysis is ongoing. Unfortunately, some things are still... indeterminate, such as reliably predicting in advance what their protocols are for unleashing their superweapons - if these can be drawn out, trick them to fire on tactically-insignificant targets with those things... standard fleet tactics for large-scale engagements should prove effective, based on the observed power and range limitations of their smaller weapons.
Kahar Dex Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 190	Posted - 2015.08.01 18:39:44 - [20] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Good work. There was a fair amount of combat capabilities' testing done as well, but analysis is ongoing. Unfortunately, some things are still... indeterminate, such as reliably predicting in advance what their protocols are for unleashing their superweapons - if these can be drawn out, trick them to fire on tactically-insignificant targets with those things... standard fleet tactics for large-scale engagements should prove effective, based on the observed power and range limitations of their smaller weapons. Their tactical intelligence supersedes that of the pirate factions we are accustomed too, even Sansha's nation. They opt for coordinated attacks against single targets, of which pose the most threat in terms of damage output. And due to their tendency for fleets to focus fire, it makes it very difficult for a fast ship to "speed tank" or draw fire adequately, for where one might miss due to high transversal velocities, being targeted by 5, 10, 30 ships, make's for a guaranteed hit by at least one. I was in the second fleet... and all I can say is... the amount of ships lost... His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 707	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:58:36 - [21] - Quote Kahar Dex wrote: Their tactical intelligence supersedes that of the pirate factions we are accustomed too, even Sansha's nation. They opt for coordinated attacks against single targets, of which pose the most threat in terms of damage output. And due to their tendency for fleets to focus fire, it makes it very difficult for a fast ship to "speed tank" or draw fire adequately, for where one might miss due to high transversal velocities, being targeted by 5, 10, 30 ships, make's for a guaranteed hit by at least one. I was in the second fleet... and all I can say is... the amount of ships lost... Oh, agreed. I'm less thinking of the normal fleet tactics of the Warzone and more the normal fleet tactics of null warfare, Cardinal. If we can find a way to draw the superweapon fire, so as to remove that from their bag of tricks early... then massive buffer battleships with armies of Logistics cruisers and e-war. Given their speed, brawling doctrines will probably be needed.
Tyrel Toov Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 492	Posted - 2015.08.01 20:38:28 - [22] - Quote Has anyone considered stealth bombers and hit-and-run tactics? That is what they were built for. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6875	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:42:11 - [23] - Quote All well and good that they were driven back. But still no idea as to why. Not a word has come from them. Sansha at least made some statements, even posted in IGS here. Wordless yet cunning. It's like we are fighting the dead, or they think we are too far beneath them to be communicated with. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 281	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:54:50 - [24] - Quote Tyrel Toov wrote: Has anyone considered stealth bombers and hit-and-run tactics? That is what they were built for. Not an option most places their attacks are even slightly relevant, unless you're the first person who knows how to jury rig the control mechanism for bomb launchers in the empires' space. Anything else you can fit on a bomber will require staying on field long enough to be locked down and destroyed.
Deitra Vess Scope Works 530	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:24:44 - [25] - Quote Just a thought, but how fast exactly do they lock? If you took like 20 torpedo fit bombers, sensor boosted with links. Time consuming and really inefficient but it could be possible, fire a salvo warp to a pre aligned safe spot, repeat. Again I'm not saying its a great idea, but its possible.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 708	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:13:12 - [26] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Just a thought, but how fast exactly do they lock? If you took like 20 torpedo fit bombers, sensor boosted with links. Time consuming and really inefficient but it could be possible, fire a salvo warp to a pre aligned safe spot, repeat. Again I'm not saying its a great idea, but its possible. I don't know about smaller ships, but my Typhoon was locked fast enough as to have appeared absolutely simultaneous with the firing of my first volley.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 5504	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:19:50 - [27] - Quote It was a strange day. I lost a Guardian and five Omens assisting in the defence of an Amarrian system, taking orders from Amarrian fleet commanders. I learnt a lot of unwelcome but perhaps important information about the Drifters, and at least I now know how research should be focused - we have to find a way to mitigate or disable that awful superweapon. The attrition of fighting these things with subcapital assets will be completely atrocious. An alternative must be found. Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all. Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus. Andreus Ixiris > ... Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 318	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:22:30 - [28] - Quote Evidence exists, sent to my office, of official communications from Kahar Dex to a combat pilot of House Singularity that disavows her participation in the raid. So be it. This goes to validate how CVA is exclusive, cliquish, xenophobic, and capable of misrepresenting the truth regardless of their comfort. During a briefing to jurors of peers, the Judge instructs the jurors that if any portion of a testimony is proven false, then you are to discredit the witness, as any of the information can then be false. Thus, one must now question anything further. We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. Shame. I only hope this is due to JamylGÇÖs extreme influence upon them, and that they will one see the True Amarr salvation for The People of the Great Golden Empire. /s/ Max Singularity VI Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Cydonia Meridian House Singularity Sixth Empire 27	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:40:45 - [29] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. I am outraged. OUTRAGED! It's one thing to disagree, fine, we can talk about that, online, offline, whatever, it dosen't matter, I can't force you to see the truth. But it's another thing entirley to disavow House Singularity, or anyone, as they work to help the people of our empire, and cluster. I am sickend by you Sauramites, and the way you blindly follow your false empress into the suffering of others. You should be ashamed.
Deitra Vess Scope Works 530	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:44:14 - [30] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Just a thought, but how fast exactly do they lock? If you took like 20 torpedo fit bombers, sensor boosted with links. Time consuming and really inefficient but it could be possible, fire a salvo warp to a pre aligned safe spot, repeat. Again I'm not saying its a great idea, but its possible. I don't know about smaller ships, but my Typhoon was locked fast enough as to have appeared absolutely simultaneous with the firing of my first volley. Is it possible they were already locking you or had you locked? Either way the only way my thought would work is if there were a lot of bombers, maybe 2 waves if they are repairing themselves, and nearly insta lock with a warp in in the same vector as the warp out possible but annoying to organize.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 172	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:02:13 - [31] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Arrendis wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Just a thought, but how fast exactly do they lock? If you took like 20 torpedo fit bombers, sensor boosted with links. Time consuming and really inefficient but it could be possible, fire a salvo warp to a pre aligned safe spot, repeat. Again I'm not saying its a great idea, but its possible. I don't know about smaller ships, but my Typhoon was locked fast enough as to have appeared absolutely simultaneous with the firing of my first volley. Is it possible they were already locking you or had you locked? Either way the only way my thought would work is if there were a lot of bombers, maybe 2 waves if they are repairing themselves, and nearly insta lock with a warp in in the same vector as the warp out possible but annoying to organize. Drifter targeting technology is very nearly instantaneous in my experience. For smaller ships registering that you have been locked, engaged, and your pod ejected are practically a single event. "I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Deitra Vess Scope Works 530	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:12:16 - [32] - Quote Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Arrendis wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Just a thought, but how fast exactly do they lock? If you took like 20 torpedo fit bombers, sensor boosted with links. Time consuming and really inefficient but it could be possible, fire a salvo warp to a pre aligned safe spot, repeat. Again I'm not saying its a great idea, but its possible. I don't know about smaller ships, but my Typhoon was locked fast enough as to have appeared absolutely simultaneous with the firing of my first volley. Is it possible they were already locking you or had you locked? Either way the only way my thought would work is if there were a lot of bombers, maybe 2 waves if they are repairing themselves, and nearly insta lock with a warp in in the same vector as the warp out possible but annoying to organize. Drifter targeting technology is very nearly instantaneous in my experience. For smaller ships registering that you have been locked, engaged, and your pod ejected are practically a single event. Wow really? Scratch that idea...
Indira Harashani Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 72	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:14:31 - [33] - Quote Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote: Drifter targeting technology is very nearly instantaneous in my experience. For smaller ships registering that you have been locked, engaged, and your pod ejected are practically a single event. I can confirm this from personal experience, having been part of the fleet operating toward the end of the Drifters' time in Safizon late last night. I believe I lost a total of three or four Coercer-class destroyers in the process, and of those, for not one of them did I have any opportunity to react. It was an instantaneous transition from "no registered incoming targeting locks" to "capsule ejected." Lady Indira Harashani Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 318	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:25:44 - [34] - Quote Additional omissions of Truth are being forwarded to my office. Another brave pilot who flies in support of The Amarr People of my Star Diocese, Meta Knite of the Black Legion alliance engaged the Drifters in his Oracle. His combat heroics were observed by non-combat witnesses as he found a technique to survive the Drifter fire power for hours. He also heroically led the drifter off of the station. Yet Meta Knite representing his alliance was omitted from the propaganda self promoting post by Kahar Dex. It is a big Cluster, and there are many eyes and ears that see the real truth. Congratulation Meta Knite and Cydonia Meridian. /s/ Max Singularity VI Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Deitra Vess Scope Works 532	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:45:41 - [35] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: So be it. This goes to validate how CVA is exclusive, cliquish, xenophobic, and capable of misrepresenting the truth regardless of their comfort. During a briefing to jurors of peers, the Judge instructs the jurors that if any portion of a testimony is proven false, then you are to discredit the witness, as any of the information can then be false. Thus, one must now question anything further. We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. Shame. I only hope this is due to JamylGÇÖs extreme influence upon them, and that they will one see the True Amarr salvation for The People of the Great Golden Empire. Max Singularity wrote: Another brave pilot who flies in support of The Amarr People of my Star Diocese, Meta Knite of the Black Legion alliance engaged the Drifters in his Oracle. His combat heroics were observed by non-combat witnesses as he found a technique to survive the Drifter fire power for hours. He also heroically led the drifter off of the station. Yet Meta Knite representing his alliance was omitted from the propaganda self promoting post by Kahar Dex. It is a big Cluster, and there are many eyes and ears that see the real truth. Congratulation Meta Knite and Cydonia Meridian. With all due respect, Mr. Singularity, what does this have to do with anything? Anyone who wasn't mentioned should be proud of their service whether they are acknowledged by one man who speaks for one group or not. They are free to comment on their part here as well, yet they from the looks of it, don't care to. So why bring it up? I will admit it is a nice gesture to highlight their service, just I don't see why any accusations towards Kahar Dex are in order.
Ravana 729 Imperial Guardians Executive Outcomes 0	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:49:13 - [36] - Quote Andreus Ixiris - Diplomacy works fairly well. It did for the Ni-Kunni in a similar situation. Unless they are treating Amarr and the other clusters they are inhabiting as some kind of body farm I can't imagine what will happen if they decide they don't like being assaulted without provocation. This sounds like it was merely a scouting fleet monitoring gate movement or attempting to apprehend someone. They have their own agenda, and it would be wise to try and find out what it is somehow. It may be you're simply not allowed to know, but there are means and means....
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 5505	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:02:12 - [37] - Quote Ravana 729 wrote: Andreus Ixiris - Diplomacy works fairly well. There's no-one to talk to. Vigilant Tyrannos has issued no demands, no statements. No Drifter has even been seen to speak - indeed, they have no vocal chords. They have had thousands of opportunities to communicate with capsuleers or with representatives of the Empire, and not a single one has been taken. Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all. Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus. Andreus Ixiris > ... Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 708	Posted - 2015.08.02 03:02:15 - [38] - Quote Ravana 729 wrote: This sounds like it was merely a scouting fleet monitoring gate movement or attempting to apprehend someone. Except for the part where they fired on the Amarr Navy first. There's a lot of things I don't like about the Amarr, but even I can't say shooting first when you have severely overwhelming firepower is a defensive act.
Suzuha Yamada Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 15	Posted - 2015.08.02 03:40:14 - [39] - Quote Saisieni, I wish to offer a hand of support to injured personnel who survived this attack who are now in need of care. At my visitor hanger at Safizon, I have some provisions I wish to pass to a representative who will ensure these are given to those in need. This is a fight we should all be together on, the fact that the drifters are seemingly picking on the Amarr in particular right now is irrelevant, we know how unpredictable they are. Anyone, be it the Republic, the Federation or even my own State could be the next in their rampant campaign to garner attention. Please contact me via mail for details. Regards, Suzuha Yamada - IKAME
Ravana 729 Imperial Guardians Executive Outcomes 0	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:40:25 - [40] - Quote Fedos communicate by smell, so the absence of vocal chords means nothing in some species. They are listening to us. Iwould say the best we can do in the face of such power is to be very careful what we say. You don't know that this is their diplomacy at work.
Honorius Vitellius Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 78	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:55:44 - [41] - Quote Cydonia Meridian wrote: Max Singularity wrote: We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. I am outraged. OUTRAGED! It's one thing to disagree, fine, we can talk about that, online, offline, whatever, it dosen't matter, I can't force you to see the truth. But it's another thing entirley to disavow House Singularity, or anyone, as they work to help the people of our empire, and cluster. I am sickend by you Sauramites, and the way you blindly follow your false empress into the suffering of others. You should be ashamed. Indeed, how outrageous that the faithful have failed to properly acknowledge the moments in which your ilk have stopped killing innocents to momentarily protect them. The countless thousands killed by you and your allies in Amarr must certainly have appreciated your efforts "to help the people of our empire," and in no way experienced "suffering" in their last moments. It is we who should be ashamed?
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 709	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:15:46 - [42] - Quote Ravana 729 wrote: You don't know that this is their diplomacy at work. So their diplomacy is shooting at us first, stealing our bodies, and using them to build more of themselves? I don't feel terribly inspired to be diplomatic as a result. In fact, it kind of makes me want to find the best way to kill each and every one of them in slow, lingering agony that makes them wish they could scream for a thousand lifetimes. But you know, I'm a Matari and a Goon, and we are, after all, lovely people.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2067	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:27:19 - [43] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. What participation? Kill reports show that no House Singularity ships were lost at any point during the Safizon attack. Nor was she in any of our fleets to my understanding. If Meridian did participate, then her contribution was quite minor as to have not lost a single ship. As for Meta Knite, I would agree that Black Alliance. should be added. It is a bit difficult to put together a full list of everyone that was participating due to the amount of losses incurred and the fact that the battle took place over a 16 hour period. Omissions of people that were actually present and in our fleets is not intentional. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 710	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:37:25 - [44] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: As for Meta Knite, I would agree that Black Alliance. should be added. It is a bit difficult to put together a full list of everyone that was participating due to the amount of losses incurred and the fact that the battle took place over a 16 hour period. Omissions of people that were actually present and in our fleets is not intentional. Legion, friend. Black Legion. They're something of a legend in their own minds. Not unlike Goons in that, I suppose. Heh. Personally, I don't feel I'm owed anything for my own involvement. My talents lie in defensive work, and against the Drifters, it would have required an active, organized, and experienced Logistics team - 30 to 40 pilots, I think, who were used to working together and able to trust one another and one another's crews - to be able to be of any use against them. The Typhoon was purely for research purposes. Hopefully, the data gathered will be useful in the future.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2068	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:46:35 - [45] - Quote Typo on Black Legion. fixed. I apologize for the error. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 711	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:49:29 - [46] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Typo on Black Legion. fixed. I apologize for the error. Feh. No need to apologize, Lieutenant. Tiny little error. Could have happened to anyone. Remind me sometime to tell you about a debacle involving wild accusations of theft, terrorizing a medbay crew, and the most obnoxiously bright orange socks in New Eden that all came down to 'oops, I forgot'.
Kahar Dex Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 190	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:50:38 - [47] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Ravana 729 wrote: You don't know that this is their diplomacy at work. So their diplomacy is shooting at us first, stealing our bodies, and using them to build more of themselves? I don't feel terribly inspired to be diplomatic as a result. In fact, it kind of makes me want to find the best way to kill each and every one of them in slow, lingering agony that makes them wish they could scream for a thousand lifetimes. But you know, I'm a Matari and a Goon, and we are, after all, lovely people. Correct, and Black Legion Added. Any others who are in good standing with Amarr who participated, can ping me. His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Kahar Dex Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 190	Posted - 2015.08.02 08:07:22 - [48] - Quote Honorius Vitellius wrote: Indeed, how outrageous that the faithful have failed to properly acknowledge the moments in which your ilk have stopped killing innocents to momentarily protect them. The countless thousands killed by you and your allies in Amarr must certainly have appreciated your efforts "to help the people of our empire," and in no way experienced "suffering" in their last moments. It is we who should be ashamed? Well put Father Vitellius. Since they want publicity, they shall have it. I make deception, and am happy to disclose my response to Pilot Cydonia Publicly. I'm quite certain it will help bolster their image, and by no means give them any difficult in answering for their mistakes and sins. In response to Pilot Cydonia Inquiry "Do we get [o]n the List of corps participating?" Quote: Participate in what exactly? The Drifter threat looms upon us, and you and yours use this time... of all times, to break the scriptures commanding unity and force an invasion of Providence and the destruction of innocents in operation Burn Amarr? When your rite of "inquiry" is recognized as sincere, then we would see you as "participating". But until then, you will receive no glory for your own propaganda. Let me repeat myself: Instead of sowing unity and strength among those who would see the Empire protected, you and those you follow spread discord and dissension, causing the whole of Amarr to be weakened. You attack innocents in Burn Amarr (as against the law of Empire and CONCORD) and your allies distract the CVA and Providence coalition forces from threats that demand the entirety of our attention. Until you repent of your sins, and abandon you mission to cause division amongst the Empire, your vanity shall receive no satisfaction from me. Cardinal Dex I would be wary of pushing this further. Suspicions are brewing with regards to House Singularity's connections with the Drifters. When such a large threat looms, it only makes sense strategically to use this time to invade Providence. Divide and concur, while providing "minimal participation" in their invasions to "appear" on the side of Amarr. Why is it that this "savior" of New Eden, this "Harbinger of Faith" does nothing but blow smoke, with your 40,000 pilots in the Imperium sitting comfortably in their "null-sec politics", while it is the CVA, PIE, and other loyalists who leap to the defense of the Empire. No. Repent of your sins. Make your followers true faithful. Call off your crusade. You may call us brainwashed, but any half-wit can see madness in killing your own brethren, rather than focusing your efforts on the enemies of the Empire. The Cardinal Makes his Stand. His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Kontrahage Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 119	Posted - 2015.08.02 08:29:43 - [49] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Evidence exists, sent to my office, of official communications from Kahar Dex to a combat pilot of House Singularity that disavows her participation in the raid. So be it. This goes to validate how CVA is exclusive, cliquish, xenophobic, and capable of misrepresenting the truth regardless of their comfort. During a briefing to jurors of peers, the Judge instructs the jurors that if any portion of a testimony is proven false, then you are to discredit the witness, as any of the information can then be false. Thus, one must now question anything further. We have seen Kahar Dex omit truthful information about Cydonia MeridianGÇÖs participation, which is verifiable via Galnet. May he and they enjoy their exclusivity, and practice non-inclusion while hypocritically talk about Amarr unity. Shame. I only hope this is due to JamylGÇÖs extreme influence upon them, and that they will one see the True Amarr salvation for The People of the Great Golden Empire. /s/ Max Singularity VI Interesting to hear this from a publicly proven liar. Would you like to see the evidence you managed to suppress reappear?
Danny Nuttall Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.08.02 11:23:53 - [50] - Quote i saw the footage and i applaud the capsuleers who stood together and refused to break. The Drifters invasion looks more like they were testing themselves as well as the might of the Amarr Navy, but i ask who is next? where else will we see the rise of the Drifter threat? Min space? Gallente? the State? what happens if they manage to start producing larger and even deadlier classes of ships? I believe what we are seeing are the first moves in chess, and were all pawns in some bigger cataclysmic game, Aka the MatchMaker
Sinjin Mokk Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration 392	Posted - 2015.08.02 14:03:42 - [51] - Quote Kahar Dex wrote: Arrendis wrote: Ravana 729 wrote: You don't know that this is their diplomacy at work. So their diplomacy is shooting at us first, stealing our bodies, and using them to build more of themselves? I don't feel terribly inspired to be diplomatic as a result. In fact, it kind of makes me want to find the best way to kill each and every one of them in slow, lingering agony that makes them wish they could scream for a thousand lifetimes. But you know, I'm a Matari and a Goon, and we are, after all, lovely people. Correct, and Black Legion Added. Any others who are in good standing with Amarr who participated, can ping me. Ping Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 715	Posted - 2015.08.02 16:18:28 - [52] - Quote Danny Nuttall wrote: what happens if they manage to start producing larger and even deadlier classes of ships? Why would they need to? Their vessels have all of 1 organism on board, and that one is built out of our corpses. I sincerely doubt they feel the need to build bigger when they can simply build more. Kahar Dex wrote: Suspicions are brewing with regards to House Singularity's connections with the Drifters. This is a bit hyperbolic, don't you think? We could just as easily put on the tin-foil and claim that the Drifter incursions into Amarr space are a false-flag operation by the Empress to get more and more of New Eden flocking to her banner, when she is actually in league with the Drifters. Which would be insane. Let me say that clearly. Until and unless there's strong evidence, let's not go accusing anyone of betraying all of humanity, either directly or by implication. From all I've seen, you are a responsible and reasonable man, Cardinal Dex. Don't let the stresses of the times take that from you.
The Golden Serpent 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:06:09 - [53] - Quote You guys are just making stuff up you don't know anything about the Drifters. Our society is dumb. And we will die.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 722	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:12:52 - [54] - Quote The Golden Serpent wrote: You guys are just making stuff up you don't know anything about the Drifters. Our society is dumb. And we will die. Feel free.
The Golden Serpent 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:33:00 - [55] - Quote Arrendis wrote: The Golden Serpent wrote: You guys are just making stuff up you don't know anything about the Drifters. Our society is dumb. And we will die. Feel free. See this is why the Amarr people will never follow the false Emperor, cuz no matter how charming he is or how much he sweetalks us, its clear he rules over a society of snarky hateful racists way worse than any other culture in the whole high sec area. You all are really nasty people and you only want Amarr cuz Null Sec has a. No good restaurants. b. People who do not take baths. c. No shopping d. Hardly any pretty scenery f. Planets full of dirty inbreeds. Basically to win he would have to sew all of your mouths shut permanently.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 325	Posted - 2015.08.02 18:35:50 - [56] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Kill reports show that no House Singularity ships were lost at any point during the Safizon attack. Do you even Galnet Bro? Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 325	Posted - 2015.08.02 18:44:23 - [57] - Quote Kahar Dex wrote: In response to Pilot Cydonia Inquiry "Do we get [o]n the List of corps participating?" Quote: Participate in what exactly? The Drifter threat looms upon us, and you and yours use this time... of all times, to break the scriptures commanding unity and force an invasion of Providence and the destruction of innocents in operation Burn Amarr? When your rite of "inquiry" is recognized as sincere, then we would see you as "participating". But until then, you will receive no glory for your own propaganda. Let me repeat myself: Instead of sowing unity and strength among those who would see the Empire protected, you and those you follow spread discord and dissension, causing the whole of Amarr to be weakened. You attack innocents in Burn Amarr (as against the law of Empire and CONCORD) and your allies distract the CVA and Providence coalition forces from threats that demand the entirety of our attention. Until you repent of your sins, and abandon you mission to cause division amongst the Empire, your vanity shall receive no satisfaction from me. Cardinal Dex This is exactly the evidence of EXCLUSION, ELITISM, CLIQUE BEHAVIOR, and PIAUS SNOBBERY that people, many people, have brought to my attentions. Hypocrites. Total hypocrites about Amarr unity. Maybe a reset of Providence was a bit naive of me. Maybe a long term occupation is in order to rid the vitriol of the cluster. Before a battle, many soldiers clean themselves as best they can. Before the Drifter invasion maybe a cleaning of Providence in indeed in order. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 325	Posted - 2015.08.02 18:56:43 - [58] - Quote Burn Amarr... burn Amarr... that river is still flowing. I laugh, 'we' laugh. No one died. Not one baseliner died on record. There is note of one Capsuleer that decided to biomass himself because he felt he should be able to autopilot a freighter without checking news sources. Oh waaah, good ridden. More laughter. No one died that had a choice. Your crews are 'gamblers', mine have the option to bow out of any mission, yet they choose to gamble with their mortal lives. So be FREEDOM OF CHOICE. No one died due to war. War... CVA... nor not one Providence corps declared CONCORD SANCTIONED WAR against the 10 Imperium Alliances. CVA can brag Amarr Victory against the Drifters, but against Capsuleers they hid in their hangers. No one died to simply being marked -10 kill on sight. Your river of tears continues to flow, but yes, I am an insensitive bastard to those tears only because I honor our mortal crews freedom of choice to gamble with their lives as they deem. Stay docked up! Oh... wait.... you did. Galnet records show The Truth in this regard too. Hypocrites. The river is running dry, cry some more. /s/ Max Singularity VI Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Kontrahage Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 119	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:07:50 - [59] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: This is exactly the evidence of EXCLUSION, ELITISM, CLIQUE BEHAVIOR, and PIAUS SNOBBERY that people, many people, have brought to my attentions. I don't see any shame in not associating oneself with criminals, rather the opposite. Max Singularity wrote: Before a battle, many soldiers clean themselves as best they can. Before the Drifter invasion maybe a cleaning of Providence in indeed in order. So in preparation of the Drfiter invasion you intend to attack those who repeatedly held their ground against them? Perhaps the lord Cardinal's suspicions are not as baselss as your henchmen would have us believe.
Kontrahage Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 119	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:09:59 - [60] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Burn Amarr... burn Amarr... that river is still flowing. I laugh, 'we' laugh. No one died. Not one baseliner died on record. There is note of one Capsuleer that decided to biomass himself because he felt he should be able to autopilot a freighter without checking news sources. Oh waaah, good ridden. More laughter. No one died that had a choice. Your crews are 'gamblers', mine have the option to bow out of any mission, yet they choose to gamble with their mortal lives. So be FREEDOM OF CHOICE. No one died due to war. War... CVA... nor not one Providence corps declared CONCORD SANCTIONED WAR against the 10 Imperium Alliances. CVA can brag Amarr Victory against the Drifters, but against Capsuleers they hid in their hangers. No one died to simply being marked -10 kill on sight. Your river of tears continues to flow, but yes, I am an insensitive bastard to those tears only because I honor our mortal crews freedom of choice to gamble with their lives as they deem. Stay docked up! Oh... wait.... you did. Galnet records show The Truth in this regard too. Hypocrites. The river is running dry, cry some more. /s/ Max Singularity VI Does this sound like a madman's incoherent rambling to anybody else?
Aeon Amadii Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:19:14 - [61] - Quote Kontrahage wrote: Max Singularity wrote: Burn Amarr... burn Amarr... that river is still flowing. I laugh, 'we' laugh. No one died. Not one baseliner died on record. There is note of one Capsuleer that decided to biomass himself because he felt he should be able to autopilot a freighter without checking news sources. Oh waaah, good ridden. More laughter. No one died that had a choice. Your crews are 'gamblers', mine have the option to bow out of any mission, yet they choose to gamble with their mortal lives. So be FREEDOM OF CHOICE. No one died due to war. War... CVA... nor not one Providence corps declared CONCORD SANCTIONED WAR against the 10 Imperium Alliances. CVA can brag Amarr Victory against the Drifters, but against Capsuleers they hid in their hangers. No one died to simply being marked -10 kill on sight. Your river of tears continues to flow, but yes, I am an insensitive bastard to those tears only because I honor our mortal crews freedom of choice to gamble with their lives as they deem. Stay docked up! Oh... wait.... you did. Galnet records show The Truth in this regard too. Hypocrites. The river is running dry, cry some more. /s/ Max Singularity VI Does this sound like a madman's incoherent rambling to anybody else? Without context, absolutely. But, you know, if he pays I'll fight his battles same as the next would-be king. (This character is the Eve version of Aeon Amadi)
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 726	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:21:18 - [62] - Quote The Golden Serpent wrote: See this is why the Amarr people will never follow the false Emperor, cuz no matter how charming he is or how much he sweetalks us, its clear he rules over a society of snarky hateful racists way worse than any other culture in the whole high sec area. Every day, I fly with capsuleers from every part of Highsec and beyond. Matari, Amarr, Gallente, Caldari, Ammatar, Intaki, Khanid, and on and on. They are my friends, my corpmates, my brethren-in-arms. While I may disagree with the political and theological beliefs of many of their home regions, that's not racism. It's not even bigotry, which I'm pretty sure is the term you were looking for there, since the last time I checked, 'High Sec' and 'Null Sec' aren't races. That's disagreement. If you're going to lecture people, use the right terminology, or you're going to have pedantic gits like myself taking you to task for being absolutely pathetic at it. The Golden Serpent wrote: You all are really nasty people and you only want Amarr cuz Null Sec has a. No good restaurants. You've never stopped in at the YA0 Shwarma Shaq. [/quote]
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 727	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:30:41 - [63] - Quote Kontrahage wrote: Perhaps the lord Cardinal's suspicions are not as baselss as your henchmen would have us believe. Excuse me, I do not 'hench', and you have the gender wrong. Nor have I said Cardinal Dex's speculation is impossible, but rather have urged caution when there's no hard evidence. For all we can disprove, all of CONCORD is actually the Drifters' front in New Eden.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2072	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:55:09 - [64] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Samira Kernher wrote: Kill reports show that no House Singularity ships were lost at any point during the Safizon attack. Do you even Galnet Bro? Yes, I do. I checked killboards directly before making that post. The most recent loss reported was Meridian's omen in Naguton on the first of August. Prior to that are the losses of a capsule and algos in Agoze, on July 31st. There were no reported losses in Safizon to drifters, or any other individual, by ships of House Singularity. I, for one, would not have been opposed to including credit to House Singularity had there been reports that verified its participation. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Indira Harashani Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:05:32 - [65] - Quote Kahar Dex wrote: Any others who are in good standing with Amarr who participated, can ping me. As I stated in my previous post in this thread, I was present during the last hour or two of the operation, through to the end. Lady Indira Harashani Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV
Honorius Vitellius Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 80	Posted - 2015.08.03 06:42:54 - [66] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Burn Amarr... burn Amarr... that river is still flowing. I laugh, 'we' laugh. No one died. This is a factually inaccurate statement. Many thousands of people died. They were more than GÇ£no one.GÇ¥ These supposed GÇ£gamblersGÇ¥ had names, and they had faces. They were children of God like us all. Singularity may suggest that by seeking their livelihood in a certain way they cease to be human, or render their human deaths laughable and unimportant. The faithful of Amarr do not think in this way, and this thinking is the mark of the death cult of Singularity. It is this contempt for human life that this supposed GÇ£popeGÇ¥ wishes to teach his students. He is a shepherd who will eat his flock. After all, his sheep could have chosen a different pasture, and in choosing his, they have accepted death. He has said as much. The moral bankruptcy of SingularityGÇÖs cause is also manifest in this choice of words. He refers to his crews as GÇ£gamblers.GÇ¥ This is the way the supposed GÇ£popeGÇ¥ of New Eden views his role as a spiritual leader: a game of chance? A game, I should add, that the capsuleer cannot really lose. Again, this is not a message for all of humanity. What Singularity offers is the real GÇ£exclusion, elitism, clique behaviour, and pious snobbery.GÇ¥ Finally, the suggestion of some kind of possible collusion between Singularity and the Drifters, offered by Cardinal Dex, is worth considering. After all, there is more evidence behind this suggestion than all of the accusations Singularity has thrown against the Empress. At least on this topic, we can see that he attacks the Empire at the same time they do. As Arrendis was so kind to point out this is hardly an actionable level of evidence, but it is far more than Singularity has offered to justify his own GÇ£inquisition.GÇ¥
Cydonia Meridian House Singularity Sixth Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.03 06:54:49 - [67] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: With all due respect, Mr. Singularity, what does this have to do with anything? Anyone who wasn't mentioned should be proud of their service whether they are acknowledged by one man who speaks for one group or not. They are free to comment on their part here as well, yet they from the looks of it, don't care to. So why bring it up? I will admit it is a nice gesture to highlight their service, just I don't see why any accusations towards Kahar Dex are in order. Don't care to? if that were it, fine, but Mr. Dex has been quite explicit in his intentions to ignore, deny and slander House Singularity and our efforts to protect baseliners, and bring redemption to capsuleers. Kahar Dex wrote: Any others who are in good standing with Amarr who participated, can ping me. Good standing with the Amarr Government, or good standing with you? How about good standing with the innocent mortal people of Amarr! Who we fight for, while you sit in your isked out ship spreading slander and false 'truths'. Honorius Vitellius wrote: Finally, the suggestion of some kind of possible collusion between Singularity and the Drifters, offered by Cardinal Dex, is worth considering. ... At least on this topic, we can see that he attacks the Empire at the same time they do. As Arrendis was so kind to point out this is hardly an actionable level of evidence.GÇ¥ The records will show that the Inquision upon Jamyl Saurum was instigated AFTER her inaction in response to drifter (and other) attacks, and BEFORE that the incursion in Saifizon. Even I have to admit that you guys are really reaching here. Samira Kernher wrote: Yes, I do. I checked killboards directly before making that post. The most recent loss reported was Meridian's omen in Naguton on the first of August. Prior to that are the losses of a capsule and algos in Agoze, on July 31st. There were no reported losses in Safizon to drifters, or any other individual, by ships of House Singularity. I, for one, would not have been opposed to including credit to House Singularity had there been reports that verified its participation. Kill Mail Official Record. So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people?
Lord Kailethre Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 211	Posted - 2015.08.03 07:10:32 - [68] - Quote I noticed Maxxy boy posted in this thread and it derailed for a bit. Any chance for the spotlight huh?
Honorius Vitellius Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 80	Posted - 2015.08.03 07:24:15 - [69] - Quote Cydonia Meridian wrote: [quote=Deitra Vess] So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people? Are these the people who remain people, or the ones who do not count as people? Since your leadership views the crews of all vessels in space as "gamblers" who have accepted their own deaths, why would you be so eager to have glory for defending targets in space? As your "pope" has stated, the deaths of these do not count. They are "no one." One would think that only a planetary invasion would gain your attention, as all other lives (especially those of people loyal to the Empire or the lives of those passing through the Empire) are expendable.
Deitra Vess Scope Works 535	Posted - 2015.08.03 13:16:03 - [70] - Quote Honorius Vitellius wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people? Are these the people who remain people, or the ones who do not count as people? Since your leadership views the crews of all vessels in space as "gamblers" who have accepted their own deaths, why would you be so eager to have glory for defending targets in space? As your "pope" has stated, the deaths of these do not count. They are "no one." One would think that only a planetary invasion would gain your attention, as all other lives (especially those of people loyal to the Empire or the lives of those passing through the Empire) are expendable. When did I say that exactly? Also I am pretty sure Scope Works doesn't support the Imperium. And while at one time I might have flown with some members of them I don't really agree with much of anything they say, never mind this gambler thing.
Honorius Vitellius Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 83	Posted - 2015.08.03 13:31:54 - [71] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Honorius Vitellius wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people? Are these the people who remain people, or the ones who do not count as people? Since your leadership views the crews of all vessels in space as "gamblers" who have accepted their own deaths, why would you be so eager to have glory for defending targets in space? As your "pope" has stated, the deaths of these do not count. They are "no one." One would think that only a planetary invasion would gain your attention, as all other lives (especially those of people loyal to the Empire or the lives of those passing through the Empire) are expendable. When did I say that exactly? Also I am pretty sure Scope Works doesn't support the Imperium. And while at one time I might have flown with some members of them I don't really agree with much of anything they say, never mind this gambler thing. There was an issue with the log, Pilot Vess. The quote specified did not belong to you. Thank you for drawing my attention to the issue. It has been fixed.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 329	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:20:57 - [72] - Quote Honorius Vitellius wrote: Cydonia Meridian wrote: So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people? As your "pope" has stated, the deaths of these do not count. They are "no one." Citation needed. Keep what I 'state' accurate. You really don't understand honor, or freedom of choice. I see why Jamyl likes you. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 329	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:44:25 - [73] - Quote You that think I don't think of my crews as people. Then damnation on you. Silly shallow fools. Death cult? By your inflated chests spew forth verbal civilian rockets. Hypocrites. Fools. I have special systems on my ships installed by my yards, that when I get into structure, my crews are already ejecting. I've lost at that point and I simply do what I can to keep my ship aligned to a celestial. But once in structure, I conceded to my enemy for the sake of my mortal human crews that have names and families. I could keep fighting on, but I give them the maximum time. Screw the ship, I'm a multi-billionare Holder. I'll get another ship. And when they eject, my ship launches beacons for the Sisters of Eve for my crews rescue. My crews enjoy a higher survivability rate than the average Capsuleer (and they know that). Oh but... yes... I've heard the screams. I've heard the cries for help. I have had to make the choice where the many outweigh the needs of the few. I'm known for not smiling and although the root of that is due to the death of my wife... it is also due to my beloved people, my friends, my co-workers, my ship mates that I have seen spaced a horrible death caused by other Capsuleers with their own political agendas... those that use The Lords name in perverted sacrilege for their own perverted ends. I ask you to CRY ME A RIVER, because I have cried rivers that have created seas! Oceans! Water worlds! I honor my crews by their free choice to fly with me. Me. A Capsuleer combat pilot. Not a Capsuleer mining pilot. Not a Capsuleer missioning pilot (that kills mortal enemies), Not a Capsuleer station trader that never undocks. I am a Capsuleer combat pilot and I choose this line to fly into danger for what I can not sit down for, I stand. My crews know I take my ships into danger and they stand with me. Your accusations are shallow, and naive. GÇ£The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.GÇ¥ -Ancient I look into each and every eye of my crew, I tell them to walk away. They don't. So be it, then welcome aboard. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Sinjin Mokk Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration 399	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:13:33 - [74] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: You really don't understand honor, or freedom of choice. I see why Jamyl likes you. You seem to be having trouble with the concept yourself. You would speak of Honor? Where is your honor when you claim loyalty to Amarr, but commit treason against her Empress? Where is your honor to the people of Amarr? No, maybe you and your didn't commit mass acts of murder during your "Burn Amarr" cry for attention, but can you imagine what the baseline population thinks of you? Where is your honor to God, when every move you make is for the furtherance of Pride? We may not always agree with the choices of our political and spiritual leaders, but open insurrection against those powers is called TREASON, the greatest of dishonors. You have a choice. The Empire stands on the sword's edge of open war with the Drifters. We are beset by continued acts of terrorism by Matari and Sanists. Pirate organizations within the Empire and without grow stronger every day, and it is into this chaos that you would make your claim? The Empress looked on you and found you and your case wanting. Too bad. Sorry for you. Now stop being the spoiled and willful slave. You are either a Lord of Amarr, accepting the responsibilities that go with those titles, or you are just another Omir or Rabbit; just another tyrant from the outer darkness who has listened to the voices of his sycophants instead of listening to his God. Repent now. Reclaim your titles and standing. Work within the system and for the system. Or don't. You can't be both. What is it to be? Lord Singularity of Amarr, or Max the Goon-Pope? You are free to decide. Choose wisely. Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Rytha Main PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 80	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:29:20 - [75] - Quote Cydonia Meridian wrote: Honorius Vitellius wrote: Finally, the suggestion of some kind of possible collusion between Singularity and the Drifters, offered by Cardinal Dex, is worth considering. ... At least on this topic, we can see that he attacks the Empire at the same time they do. As Arrendis was so kind to point out this is hardly an actionable level of evidence.GÇ¥ The records will show that the Inquision upon Jamyl Saurum was instigated AFTER her inaction in response to drifter (and other) attacks, and BEFORE that the incursion in Saifizon. Even I have to admit that you guys are really reaching here. Inaction? She distributed shielding technology. She blessed the keel laying of a new technologically advance ship to combat the drifters, and finally she memorialized the brave capsuleer's who fought off and beat the first Drifter Armada invasion. How is this "inaction"? Your words only further support Cardinal Dex's suspicions. First the Drifters appear on the scene. Then Max launches his "inquiry" (which has entirely ignored by the MIO), then Max and Imperium forces begin moving war assets to Assah directly after the first Drifter attack. No on is claiming fact, but the burden of proof is indeed on you to prove your innocence. To date, you have murdered innocents, and are causing division amongst loyalists when we should be focused on a more emergent threat. This is starting to make more sense. Cydonia Meridian wrote: Don't care to? if that were it, fine, but Mr. Dex has been quite explicit in his intentions to ignore, deny and slander House Singularity and our efforts to protect baseliners, and bring redemption to capsuleers. Kahar Dex wrote: Any others who are in good standing with Amarr who participated, can ping me. Good standing with the Amarr Government, or good standing with you? How about good standing with the innocent mortal people of Amarr! Who we fight for, while you sit in your isked out ship spreading slander and false 'truths'. This question has been asked many times, but none of you Maximite loyalists have answered it, so it should be asked again. I believe what the good Lord Cardinal Dex was referring to, were people who did not commit illegal actions against the Amarr Empire and it's citizens. Please tell us... in Max & Imperium's terrorist attack "Burn Amarr"... did CONCORD and Imperial Navy vessels fire upon, and engage your forces? Yes, or no?
Archbishop Abraxas Defensores Fidei 32	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:37:56 - [76] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: War... CVA... nor not one Providence corps declared CONCORD SANCTIONED WAR against the 10 Imperium Alliances. CVA can brag Amarr Victory against the Drifters, but against Capsuleers they hid in their hangers. Max Singularity VI A simple question if I may. Did you and your followers declare CONCORD SANCTIONED WAR against all the pilots and corporations engaged during Burn Amarr? If I am not mistaken, many of those ships destroyed were unarmed and defenseless...
Cydonia Meridian House Singularity Sixth Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.03 17:52:10 - [77] - Quote Rytha Main wrote: Inaction? She distributed shielding technology. She blessed the keel laying of a new technologically advance ship to combat the drifters, and finally she memorialized the brave capsuleer's who fought off and beat the first Drifter Armada invasion. How is this "inaction"? How do you possibly call that action?!? She created a memorial while people are dying, a dumb statue is not helpful! She 'blessed' the construction of a new ship? How long is that going to take? Distributed shields? Instead she should be using her position as leader of the people to actually do something, not show up and give handouts and make empty speeches. You've just proven that in Inquisition is necessary. Rytha Main wrote: To date, you have murdered innocents... No. Not one of those Capsuleers were murdered, we re-clone, remember? Rytha Main wrote: ... and are causing division amongst loyalists when we should be focused on a more emergent threat. Jamyl is not focused on the emergent threat. We are. Our goal is not division, it is to protect the people, and since Jamyl and her followers are not, then we have to split off and do it ourselves. If unity is the thing you care about, then unite with us to fight for the people of Amarr, and the cluster. If the innocent lives are what you care about, then join us, and work to save them, not build statues. YOU are causing the division, by stubbornly staying loyal to a false empress that does not care for you, or her people.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 331	Posted - 2015.08.03 17:54:53 - [78] - Quote Sinjin Mokk wrote: Repent now. Reclaim your titles and standing. Work within the system and for the system. Or don't. You can't be both. What is it to be? Lord Singularity of Amarr, or Max the Goon-Pope? You are free to decide. Choose wisely. You make it sound like I could choose a u-turn and be marked +10 by CVA and Provibloc. They of hardened hearts have shown disdain for so many masses that they never forgive, nor forget regardless redemptions. I would see a Khanid Emperor on the throne before I vow off Jamyl's taint. I would see a loyal Ammatar on the throne as well if that be our only option of sanity in an insane world. Enough talk, thou all hast shown incalcitrant. Our tour guides have booked our reservations for our summer holiday in Providence many months ago. We are past our free cancellation date, so we are coming to enjoy the fine restaurants and hotels of the so many stations... SO MANY STATIONS. I'll pack my swim trunks, my favorite towel, and my coffee mug. Grab your sunscreen, for we shall bring the light. Choose wisely, you say as if I have, had, a choice. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2079	Posted - 2015.08.03 17:56:26 - [79] - Quote Cydonia Meridian wrote: Kill Mail Official Record. 20:14 is when I was there, so you were not in one of our fleets. However, since you were assisting with the defense, then I will recommend to His Eminence Dex to include you on the list. As I have said, my only concern was over the lack of evidence. That killmail did not, and still has not, shown up on public killboards, for whatever reason. Had it been there, then I personally would have recommended inclusion. I shall also recommend to both CVA and House Singularity representatives that the off-topic arguments in this thread cease. These arguments have propagated over many threads now, there no need for this thread to also be derailed. This is about the defense of Safizon. If there are issues with regard to recognition to parts played in that defense, then I will recommend they be dealt with in private. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 992	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:01:31 - [80] - Quote Singularity's postings seem to have a much more agitated tone than they once did. I see the nips coming from the pack of wolves that is the IGS are finally getting to him. Eventually he might succumb to death by a thousand mental cuts. Keep up the good work, everyone!
Cydonia Meridian House Singularity Sixth Empire 29	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:02:15 - [81] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Cydonia Meridian wrote: Kill Mail Official Record. 20:14 is when I was there, so you were not in one of our fleets. However, since you were assisting with the defense, then I will recommend to His Eminence Dex to include you on the list. As I have said, my only concern was over the lack of evidence. That killmail did not, and still has not, shown up on public killboards, for whatever reason. Had it been there, then I personally would have recommended inclusion. I shall also recommend to both CVA and House Singularity representatives that the off-topic arguments in this thread cease. These arguments have propagated over many threads now, there no need for this thread to also be derailed. This is about the defense of Safizon. If there are issues with regard to recognition to parts played in that defense, then I will recommend they be dealt with in private. Thank you, and agreed. I would prefer to deal with these personal attacks directly in a separate topic as well.
Anslo Scope Works 32088	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:02:38 - [82] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Honorius Vitellius wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: So, are you all admitting to being fools, or to putting your politics above the lives of the people? Are these the people who remain people, or the ones who do not count as people? Since your leadership views the crews of all vessels in space as "gamblers" who have accepted their own deaths, why would you be so eager to have glory for defending targets in space? As your "pope" has stated, the deaths of these do not count. They are "no one." One would think that only a planetary invasion would gain your attention, as all other lives (especially those of people loyal to the Empire or the lives of those passing through the Empire) are expendable. Also I am pretty sure Scope Works doesn't support the Imperium. Supporting no one in this ** show. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 331	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:08:18 - [83] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Cydonia Meridian wrote: Kill Mail Official Record. As I have said, my only concern was over the lack of evidence. That killmail did not, and still has not, shown up on public killboards, for whatever reason. Had it been there, then I personally would have recommended inclusion. You sir are a reasonable man. I shall cease per your request, if they take your recommendation. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2079	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:09:02 - [84] - Quote Pardon, sir, but I am a woman. "The word of the Empress is the word of God, the will of the Empress is the will of God. Let no man seek to shirk his obligations before God and His chosen representative in this world." -- Datna Jesebel, Principal Clerk of the Theology Council
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 992	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:09:11 - [85] - Quote Woman. Samira Kernher is a proper lady.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 331	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:14:28 - [86] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: Singularity's postings seem to have a much more agitated tone than they once did. Truestory. However the agitation is not IGS, but myself. Too much yak yak when I should be spreading my love. and by love... Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 331	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:18:14 - [87] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Pardon, sir, but I am a woman. I edited my response and made note of my gaff. My apologies Madam. Your reason still stands strong. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 754	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:46:46 - [88] - Quote Ok, so, now is time for us all to go out and get sloppy drunk together, right? Because really, there's implacable alien death machines out there, war on the horizon, and maniacs running around committing unspeakable acts of aggression against the human spirit - have you seen the crap they're putting on the holo these days? Burn Wherever-the-hell-the-State-Produces-Caldari-Vice-Nights, I swear. If I have to sit through one more gratuitous sex scene involving Decker and a whore who dies right after, or his Gallente partner Blak trying to develop the perfect Tech 2 pleasure-bot, I'm gonna... you know what? Nevermind. Tangent there. POINT IS: There is enough terrible crap out there in New Eden already, that I am going to go to Amarr in about twenty minutes to pick up my Loki, and then I'm gonna get falling down, blackout drunk with anyone who'll guarantee I won't get shot on the way to the party. And if that's nobody? Then heck w/all'a ya, I'll get drunk and proposition the Empress. It's been that kinda week.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 757	Posted - 2015.08.03 19:47:42 - [89] - Quote She wouldn't take my call...
Kontrahage Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 120	Posted - 2015.08.03 19:49:19 - [90] - Quote Moved to a different thread as not to add to derailment.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 758	Posted - 2015.08.03 20:27:41 - [91] - Quote heyyy.... did you, you know, not get the note? ok, look, I know I'm already drinking, and sure, there may have been a little pharmasoo... parma... drugs. there may be drugs. but look, man, people asked that the crotch-grabbing stop and everybody focus on the important stuff about how all these people are freakin' DEAD now an' we couldn' stoppit, kay? So... 'nough wit' th' grrrgrrrgrrr crap, kay? People're dead. We din't stoppit. Yay heroic sacrifices'n crap, but my job's keepin' people from bein' dead, and by 'at measure, we failed. So... we c'n grrgrrr an' pewpew at one another somewhre else. Not here. Sk+Ñl
Deitra Vess Scope Works 536	Posted - 2015.08.03 21:12:18 - [92] - Quote Someone can't handle their liquor....
Cydonia Meridian House Singularity Sixth Empire 31	Posted - 2015.08.03 22:36:39 - [93] - Quote Awww, the party started without me! I'm in if you're still conscious when I get back. I promise not to shoot you on the way
Rauour Engil Rabies Inc. 2	Posted - 2015.08.04 00:08:01 - [94] - Quote The Golden Serpent wrote: See this is why the Amarr people will never follow the false Emperor, cuz no matter how charming he is or how much he sweetalks us, its clear he rules over a society of snarky hateful racists way worse than any other culture in the whole high sec area. You all are really nasty people and you only want Amarr cuz Null Sec has a. No good restaurants. b. People who do not take baths. c. No shopping d. Hardly any pretty scenery f. Planets full of dirty inbreeds. Basically to win he would have to sew all of your mouths shut permanently. I rather like you Golden, I think 'we' have blundered into this confrontation although perhaps Nation know a lot more than they're letting on too. Honestly we had pretty good parties in 5ZXX-K and EC had some awesome places to eat when MC ran it. The legion was the best thing that happened to me, well, that and lucking out when I became a capsuleer. The drifters though, attacking the Empire, gotta say I'm worried by it all. I don't want to go back to the margins and shadows of my childhood. Your dirty inbred retail deprived friend, RE

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