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Death Note	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:12:00 - [1] played everyday since kali was released, and i can say theres really much less PvP in 0.0 [and even in LowSec!] all use Local so determine if u got enemys or not and "jump to 0" system u create alt on same acc and getter intel on all area u want mobiles and probes are next to useless since u can warp from any belt/planet to gate and get past CAMP giving hp and much more tanking on ravens help blob guys to gather fast and save yourself t2 ammos got nerfed pretty hard - why u need t2? just gether a t1 ship blob! u lag ur enemy and kill him very easily haha! is this really become a heaven for carebears? are CCP happy with this??
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:13:00 - [2] Hmmm... I was thinking. Here's an idea. Make it so that no ship can warp instantly: in addition to the alignment time, there's an extra few seconds, for any ship. This makes the main place to catch ships on jumpin, and makes it so that no ship is invincible. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:16:00 - [3] Perhaps add a percentage based chance at preventing someone from jumping with a scrambler even if he does land on top of the gate? Should be a small percentage though.
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:17:00 - [4] unnerf wcs
Tareen Kashaar eXin Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:20:00 - [5] Originally by: turnschuh unnerf wcs Mmmh, no? --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
Death Note	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:21:00 - [6] Originally by: turnschuh unnerf wcs wcs nerf is not that bad what u think cause u can REALLY scrammble some1.. but LOCAl and warp to 0 [and hp/t2 nerf] makes it next to useless
Steppa Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:32:00 - [7] Local needs to go. At least, the way it is, it's more useful than it was. Replace local with something that allows you to access the billboard or gate to get a recent list (up to 30 minutes, maybe) of pilot name/shiptype that jumped through it coming or going.
Niccolado Starwalker	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Death Note played everyday since kali was released, and i can say theres really much less PvP in 0.0 [and even in LowSec!] all use Local so determine if u got enemys or not and "jump to 0" system u create alt on same acc and getter intel on all area u want mobiles and probes are next to useless since u can warp from any belt/planet to gate and get past CAMP giving hp and much more tanking on ravens help blob guys to gather fast and save yourself t2 ammos got nerfed pretty hard - why u need t2? just gether a t1 ship blob! u lag ur enemy and kill him very easily haha! is this really become a heaven for carebears? are CCP happy with this?? I have just recently got dead tired of deep space and low sec, and are now back where I started more then a year ago - in high sec - minding my own business. And are now am having real fun again. Many things led to this really, and not all of them good, but in the end, i got tired of it all. And then I should join a different corp which I had great respect for, only to be screwed over again. Anyway, I am now having fun again as I said, and I am going to stay in a NPC corp. for the time being. And that is really the first time at all, always being a part of a corp!! I am not even chatting in the corp chat.. Now, I will mind my own business. having Fun, and do what I love in the game! Play on my premises, not others. I love the game, if I can play it my way. not others. And to be honest, I dont miss deep space all that much. And low sec are too pirate infested that I see any fun in going there. The risk is simply too high, and the cost is above me. Clone issurance, ships, modules. All of high quality is needed too. And I simply dont care to loose 7 x t2 large rails to like 16 millions each. All I care for is having fun. Is that too much to ask for?
Death Note	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:35:00 - [9] all i can say with all this changes PvP is currently something like broken.. yeah u can deny this now, but within a month or two u will realize HOW BORING eve is become - up ur mining skills guys and get ISK tomorrow and ever?!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Anyway, I am now having fun again as I said, and I am going to stay in a NPC corp. for the time being. And that is really the first time at all, always being a part of a corp!! I am not even chatting in the corp chat.. Now, I will mind my own business. having Fun, and do what I love in the game! Play on my premises, not others. Ive been playing like that for almost a year. I think it rocks. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:38:00 - [11] There'll be less ganking, that's for sure. What there will need to be is large squads with bubbles nad interdictors setting up gate camps. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Eleis Machuron	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:40:00 - [12] Wow, I guess the carebears must be right: most 'pvpers' are only after helpless victims. 'Cause my main's been fighting non-stop since the patch hit. Why don't you guys go try shooting something that will fight back? Hint: you may have to go after something bigger than you. Other hint: you may have to use teamwork and trickery to get a fight, but it'll be worth it. Last hint: you may lose occasionally. Also worth it if you love PvP.
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:43:00 - [13] Death Note you're speaking from limited experience (of a single player) and well, you're also talking out your ass. I've played Eve for a decent period of time like 3 times since Kali ('cos I've been pretty busy IRL, bah). In that short play time I've had two of the best small gang fights of my Eve career. It's possible to catch people and you can still get great fights, it's just that you suck, you can't spell or use grammar and you're an idiot. That or you're just trolling. Whatever. - - - - - - - - - - "PERGITE DEGUSTATE FORMOSUM BELLUM" Forward to taste the beautiful war. . .
Death Note	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Eleis Machuron Wow, I guess the carebears must be right: most 'pvpers' are only after helpless victims. 'Cause my main's been fighting non-stop since the patch hit. Why don't you guys go try shooting something that will fight back? Hint: you may have to go after something bigger than you. Other hint: you may have to use teamwork and trickery to get a fight, but it'll be worth it. Last hint: you may lose occasionally. Also worth it if you love PvP. why u not just play tetris or lines? u just don't get any of what i said earlier
Araxmas Caldari Imperial Space Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:51:00 - [15] Edited by: Araxmas on 04/12/2006 18:51:16 Meh just make a plot line that consists of empire crumbling and reduce the sec status of empire. Will peev off alot of people but i would laugh psychoticly. --------
Alchemos Gallente Middle School Comedy Club	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:52:00 - [16] I have found so much more pvp after the Kali Patch, than before the patch.
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:53:00 - [17] There are so many things wrong with the OP. Local was already used to check for hostiles, now it's just quicker. WTZ we had this already BM's Can warp from belts and planets.... Yup I'm sure I could do this Pre-Rev. You got the HP+ as well... Where is your post saying you liked your ship with less HP. T2 Ammo, Use it Don't use it. Your choice.. I could comment on the Make alt on same account but I really don't think there is a need to. The man without a face... The company without a clue.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:03:00 - [18] /me checks killboard Nope, everything looks hunky-dory here. Now, WTS dread guristas large shield booster. Only used once on a very dumb Cerb =P ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game!
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:17:00 - [19] come to syndicate. its a warzone as usual. as far as warp to 0....large bubble on gate will catch both incoming and outgoing...just dont lose it, its pricey. even a medium does the job nice enough, or a dictor bubble. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:20:00 - [20] hmm... I've found the opposite... more PVP than ever out here in 0.0... About the same ammt of action as before in lowsec... Maybe you need to learn to adjust your tactics?
Death Note	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:18:00 - [21] update: lag! i forgot about that one! so much ppl talking about "deleting bookmarks will reduce lag" etc i see MUCH MORE LAG! right now im in some random 0.0 system and can't do a ****, i jumped in gate and like 10-15 mins lagged out to return in 1.000.000 km.. okay.. i relogin, and 10 another minutes [WTF ITS NOT JITA!] i tried to login, guys wtf is this? ist kali supposed to be stabilized to lag etc? i don't get it.. u can't activate ur modules and ur helpless [as all in system] ! FIX IT!
Troy Knight	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:22:00 - [22] Wow, major system crash? I'm glad I'm not playing atm now. Game server crashed yesterday for a minute, booted alot of people off (including me) and put us in log in ques. Was not fun, doesn't sound like its got any better.
Zirator Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:25:00 - [23] Since Revellations I have killed more stuff then in the weeks before it. :D
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:40:00 - [24] I bet lots of folks who would normally be up for PVP are hiding in their implant clone training up skills until after the next patch. Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. - Bertrand Russell
Imba Bambi	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari Hmmm... I was thinking. Here's an idea. Make it so that no ship can warp instantly: in addition to the alignment time, there's an extra few seconds, for any ship. This makes the main place to catch ships on jumpin, and makes it so that no ship is invincible. Yeah good idea, I have been advocating this for quite some time. Only problem is that it will slow down travel times, so maybe the delay should be linked to a) system security status b) presence of ships in the same grid that dont have you blue c) enemy action like locking Any combination of these measures would improve gameplay.
Tigolbiddies	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Death Note Originally by: Eleis Machuron Wow, I guess the carebears must be right: most 'pvpers' are only after helpless victims. 'Cause my main's been fighting non-stop since the patch hit. Why don't you guys go try shooting something that will fight back? Hint: you may have to go after something bigger than you. Other hint: you may have to use teamwork and trickery to get a fight, but it'll be worth it. Last hint: you may lose occasionally. Also worth it if you love PvP. why u not just play tetris or lines? u just don't get any of what i said earlier Hehe, Eleis, looks like you hit the nail on the head with that one. "Boo hoo, it's harder for me to gank new people who had not figured out how to use bookmarks yet." I'm pretty sure if Death Note was really looking for a fight, he could find one. Finding noobs to pop is a little more difficult now. A fair fight is obviously not something Death Note is looking for.
Warp Warrior Caldari The Otter Pop Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:59:00 - [27] Edited by: Warp Warrior on 05/12/2006 06:06:49 Originally by: Araxmas Edited by: Araxmas on 04/12/2006 18:51:16 Meh just make a plot line that consists of empire crumbling and reduce the sec status of empire. Will peev off alot of people but i would laugh psychoticly. LMAO! love that idea. With W20, miners can now warp right up to their mining cans with their haulers and be out of a belt in seconds. This warping right up to cans should be nerfed.
Lisa Lightyear	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:59:00 - [28] The only differences IÆve noticed post Kali, are having to catch people on the other side of the gate instead of catching them while slow boating. Bubbles are even more important now, and they have a 90% success rate when used properly, fast tacklers have a more important role in gangs than they did pre-kali too, and if you can't utilise local to your advantage (yes, the people crying about it) you are probably a 24/7 empire pipe camper or you're not really wanting to interact with PVP mechanics and don't belong in 0.0 space to begin with.
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.05 07:30:00 - [29] high sec piracy recieved quite a boost with the new probes working well even if htey dont engage there are always lots of nice NPCs to shoot and wrecks to salvage and even loot to find. Not to mention the amount of drones that ive picked up 150 and counting today quite a few t2 ones just left sitting to These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Warrio Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.05 07:32:00 - [30] Oh no guys! We might have to get some new tactics! I'll give you a hint then you can go from there. Unscramble this: "cendttorIri" Fatal Revelations -LV- Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are ISK farmers. - Plato

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