wrong forums.

anyway, as a relative newbro, during busy weeks at work, one of my EvE fix is to make a 50-skill plans on evemon and having it modified/changed every night.

your idea would make skill planning boring.

So basically I can sell a character that can adapt to every patch by simply allocating new SP to the new overpowered flavour of the month.
Rather than having to actually make decisions.

And you somehow with a 50 skill long skill queue managed to run out after a couple of days?

Lrn2play?

wrong forums.

Mate, you really need to check this forum section: Here

This idea or feature isn't as new as you might think.

So In take it you want attributes removed too? And implants, yet you propose nothing to cover the hole in the market you're creating?

And how did you manage to run out of skills when the queue is fifty skills, regardless of length? Mine's 436 days at the moment, for example.

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How does that make any sense? SP is SP, how does the game decide that unallocated SP is worth different amounts for different skills?

That 50,000 SP they gave us last week is 50,000 SP, weather you put it on a leadership skill or a gunnery skill. That's how free SP works, if you're proposing that be changed as well, please clarify.

This is a horrible idea to me and would simply result in tranches of perfect FotM pilots popping up after any rebalance or new ship release. It would also turn the character bazaar into simply a list of empty shells with x amount of SP. At least now somebody has to set up and manage a skill queue for them.

-1 ^ googol

Your worrying does make sense.

Even we benefit from the system right away at the same time, but the one who has more toons would benefit more after patches.

But the upside is we also have choice after patches, we could always reserve several sp for future.

Anyway, it is just my idea.

Your worrying does make sense.

Even we benefit from the system right away at the same time, but the one who has more toons would benefit more after patches.

But the upside is we also have choice after patches, we could always reserve several sp for future.

Anyway, it is just my idea.

Hey, CCP

I was back from kinda of afk every cpl of days, while found myself forget to update skills, so I lost about 3.5D sp. and makes me recall before that there maybe a 12D lost 2 yrs ago.

sure we have evemon or lots of thingy to alert, and this is not a post about myself.

Is it possible to change the whole sp system, not the core, but just the behavior.

now we updated skill manually and skills complete by auto.

what about reverse it?

if we get unallocated sp like the sp gift as long as we pay plex, it grows like the skill training system right now, then we player do not have to plan or log in by times.thus, we could just allocate them as soon as we want. no one forget, no one lost.

I am just a RP solo miner, only one toon, never wanna sell it, but for the account sellers on the forum, they do not have to declare what their toons are good at, they just need to declare how many sp unallocated, who buys the toon, who allocates the sp as they want, and the trade market will be much more better I suppose.

But I do not know whether you "have to" need player log in or maybe my idea sucks.

It is just a unprofessional idea from a player, a suddenly idea.

Well, thanks for the great game.

So In take it you want attributes removed too? And implants, yet you propose nothing to cover the hole in the market you're creating?

And how did you manage to run out of skills when the queue is fifty skills, regardless of length? Mine's 436 days at the moment, for example.

Removing attributes and Implants is a different story and actually a very good idea.
The market hole can be covered by low grade only empire hardwirings which are cheap enough people don't care about, but useful, and by fixing some of the useless sets like sensor strength to be desirable as well.

Removing attributes isn't a good idea (attribute implants, depends how you view it).

Removing attributes would result in no need to have a skill queue, so we end up back with gaining sp to use as you will, once you have enough. It will also result in a constant rate of accumulation of sp which is kind of boring.

Removing or adding something to a game should only happen to enhance the experience not just to fill a hole (in the case of adding), another words don't add something just for the sake of it.

If you removed attribute implants I wouldn't replace them with anything, just use the 5 hardwire slots that exist and just renumber them 1 - 5.

All the sets use the same implant slots as attribute implants, so there are still going to be 10 slots in use.

Also removing attributes does not remove the need for a skill queue. The skill queue is about making choices ahead of time as to what you will train towards. Attributes allow you to manipulate the rate at which you train. The two are different things and attributes actually serve to advantage the older players who are training alts vastly more than any new player, despite all the claims as to how it helps new players 'catch up'.

Removing the skill queue in favour of an SP pool removes the need to plan ahead and changes it to a reactive system 'Today I need to fly an Ishtar so I'll dump points into it since I have spare'.

Two very different things basically.
And removing attributes from the game does serve to enhance the game, as it removes a barrier for actual new pilots who are forced to train off map, as well as fight an unintuitive and poorly explained system. Training at the same pace is hardly 'boring' either. No more boring than our current training anyway.

If you get rid of attribute implants you may as well just get rid of 5 slots as 10 skill enhancement slots seems a bit OOT to me.

I don't see how removing attributes enhances the game.

Well, I for one plugged in my High Grade Snake set for the +4 attributes.

In the same way picking a fly out of your soup enhances the meal. The gameplay presented by attributes is easily solved at best (setting up +5s with a consistent plan & remap), and just annoying at worst (newbros constantly flipping skill types to cover all their core skills). You don't want to lose your implants because unlike ship related bonuses, that SP is just gone. You don't want to change directions with your character more than once a year because you can lose months of progression with an improper attribute map.

None of this is terribly difficult, it's just restrictive and frustrating.